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Old 12-04-2009, 03:08 PM   #1
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So you have lynched Nienna. And she is... an innocent. Ordinary innocent. Pure as snow. (Yes, that snow. I could not resist.)

I don't know when I am going to post the full narration yet, but anyway not now, sometime during the Night possibly. In any case, all Nightly people can start doing their stuff and all the rest can sleep peacefully... more or less... until the next Day.
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:31 AM   #2
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Expedition Journal - Night 4 Entry

The events of the previous night and day were just too much for us and we could not stand the claustrophobic space of the crippled ship anymore. We decided to leave our cook aboard and leave for the nearby island with the bare rocky top jutting from the ice cover which most of us have already visited a few days ago. We felt we had a lot to think about and lot to share, but we just could not get ourselves to talk aboard the ship where so many terrifying events have occured. We needed fresh air.

Equipped with everything we needed for the trip which, we assumed, would not take us more than half a day at most, we set out across the icy plain towards that unknown island. Gradually, as we walked, we started discussing the events of the previous day and night. It soon became clear that most of us had their own theories as to what we have witnessed the previous evening. While our biologists kept bringing in various explanations of rapid cell growth and attempting to draw conclusions from impacts of stress upon metamorphosis occuring at important life stages of many organisms, our pilot, mechanic and navigator kept repeating all over again the same word: Werewolves. It was of course not only them who have thought of it, yet, whichever term we used, it did not move us any closer to the understanding of the strange phenomenon.

It was about halfway through to the island when the tension reached a point where the reasonable discussion was no longer possible. Looking back, it was possibly inevitable to meet conflict, yet I still think we could have done something to prevent what happened then. At first, a fight broke out between our mechanic and our navigator. Apparently the latter had once again interrupted our biologists' discussion by shouting "Werewolves!", which finally annoyed the mechanic and made her hit our navigator, saying "You are saying it because you are a werewolf yourself!" Soon another of our crewmembers joined in and in the end what seemed like a mass madness took the whole company. "It was you who have killed my dogs!" was our dog handler's cry and upon that cry, our navigator turned around and started to run away. I remember shouts and warnings and then somebody took a gun and sent a bullet after her. She dodged, but of course late. She stumbled and fell.

I do not know what madness was taking us. We were all, understandably, terrified - but it was horrible to think that we would start murdering each other.


LIVING MEMBERS OF THE EXPEDITION:

Boromir88 - senior assistant to a professor of glaciology
Eomer of the Rohirrim - sea pilot
Loslote - rich funder's spoiled daughter
Morsul - federal grants lawyer
Brinn - polar bear biologist
Pitchwife - marine biologist
Nogrod - old palaeoecologist with is own theory of climate change
Macalaure - palaeomathematician
sally - the original initiator of the expedition
Thinlómien - whale expert
Nerwen - mechanic
Bes - room/store manager
Shasta - sled-dog handler
wilwa - crewmember
Greenie - senior assitant to important scientists in the company


GONE:
Roa - survival guide - died on blood loss from Werewolf attack on Day 2 (left game, innocent)
Mnemosyne - field medic - shot by the survival guide on Day 2 (Werewolf)
Inziladun - meteorologist - killed by Werewolves on Night 3 (innocent)
tromkehra - cook/bartender - left aboard the ship on Day 3 (left game, innocent)
Nienna - navigator - shot in a mass madness (innocent)

It is still Night...
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:01 PM   #3
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Expedition Journal - Day 4 Entry

We have reached the island in an even more tense mood than before. Of course we had to spend some time to take care of our navigator's body. Now that it came to it, there seemed no other choice than to bury her in the snow, there was no way to preserve all the bodies aboard the ship until our return home, not to speak of the question which kept haunting us: if we were to return home at all.

I guess it is a habit for us humans to calm our minds by work or examination, satisfying our curiosity and at the same time letting our thoughts roam free of the momentary situation, as grim as it is. Upon reaching the island, we started inspecting it. Its material was black basaltic rock, possibly raised by the same process which formed the Gakkel Ridge nearby, deep under the sea. It wasn't even very large in size, though we could have assumed that its mass gradually grows under the ice until it reaches the bottom or joins some other unseen formation of submarine rock.

It was most interesting for us to discover that even though the island's surface was covered with ice and snow (presumably of long-term nature), the layer of ice was very thin in some places, thin enough for us to actually notice that some of the depressions in the ground are mere covering for rifts in the rocky surface itself, and crevices which did not seem to actually be filled with snow but merely covered with a layer of ice, and beneath them they continued into unseen depths. It was our young assistant who first noticed the irregularities in the snow layer near the southern edge of the island, and it was also her who marked the position of the crevasse larger than the others, whose ice cork was disrupted - possibly melted during some recent thermal wave - and which eventually seemed to turn into a large shaft mysteriously disappearing underground.

We started to explore the surroundings more closely, looking for possible signs of similar intriguing features of the island's surface. Yet our efforts were soon once again interrupted by the cries of our young assistant, who alone remained close to her original find. When we reached the place, she was already dead - and we had no doubt what had attacked her.

But it was the polar bear biologist who noticed the tracks near the gaping fissure - tracks most intriguing and most unnerving by their nature. It was what seemed like an usual set of tracks of a quadrupedal animal, a sight quite common in the southern latitudes but quite rare at our current site. What seemed peculiar was that these tracks did not seem fresh at all, as far as we could say. There hasn't been any fresh snow for several days and it was clear that the tracks must be more than several hours old. Yet the crowning abnormality of the fact - especially in relation to what we have just experienced during the previous days - that these were undeniably wolf tracks and that they were coming from underground - led us to shift our focus on the curious crevasse.

LIVING MEMBERS OF THE EXPEDITION:

Boromir88 - senior assistant to a professor of glaciology
Eomer of the Rohirrim - sea pilot
Loslote - rich funder's spoiled daughter
Morsul - federal grants lawyer
Brinn - polar bear biologist
Pitchwife - marine biologist
Nogrod - old palaeoecologist with is own theory of climate change
Macalaure - palaeomathematician
sally - the original initiator of the expedition
Thinlómien - whale expert
Nerwen - mechanic
Bes - room/store manager
Shasta - sled-dog handler
wilwa - crewmember

GONE:
Roa - survival guide - died on blood loss from Werewolf attack on Day 2 (left game, innocent)
Mnemosyne - field medic - shot by the survival guide on Day 2 (Werewolf)
Inziladun - meteorologist - killed by Werewolves on Night 3 (innocent)
tromkehra - cook/bartender - left aboard the ship on Day 3 (left game, innocent)
Nienna - navigator - shot on her way back to the ship (innocent)
Greenie - senior assitant to important scientists in the company - killed on Night 4 (innocent)

Day 4 starts. Night folks, stop PMing. Everybody, you may start posting.
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:05 PM   #4
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Ah, this time I actually managed to finish a Lommy analysis. Here we go:

Post 1: Summary. I've already looked at this post, so I'm not going to spend much time on it.

Post 2: Suggests the possibility of a Nog-Roa collaboration.

Post 3: Wonders more about the Nog-Roa collaboration; says that they wouldn't attack each other on flimsy reasoning if they were both innocent. (Um, Lommy, have you ever seen Roa and Nog not attack each other as ordos? It's almost traditional.) Suspects Nog, Roa, Nienna, and Mnemo.

Post 4: Says that she still thinks the Nog-Roa thing was staged; says she won't vote them because that seems too drastic. Says she might vote Nienna or Mnemo instead, but she doesn't have much reason.

Post 5: Doesn't want to vote Mnemo because Eomer's vote for her looks bandwaggonish; thinks Nog is panicing; suspects Nienna.

Post 6: Complains about the time.

Post 7: Says a vote for Nienna would be 'throwaway'; deliberates between Nog and Mnemo.

Post 8: Says Mac's last post was suspicious.

Post 9: Says Inzil doesn't seem too bad; votes Mnemo. (Wolf on wolf?...might be pushing it.)

Post 10: Says Mnemo looks worse than Inzil or Mac; says the rest of the Day (two minutes at this point) would be chaotic.

Post 11: Asks about the 4-4 tie; apoligizes for xing with Mr. Mod.

Post 12: Thinks Mac is innocent; thinks Shasta and Nienna look bad; thinks Inzil looks good; thinks Mnemo looks badish; grumps about the no-kill situation; says Roa leaving might be good because we have a definite ordo who was in the thick of arguments; thinks Nog looks suspicious; asks for someone to accuse her so she can get into the game;

(This could be wolvish, sort of a "Oh, I'm not that interested in the game, I must be a ordo, and have no role, which is why I can't get involved!" thing.)

doesn't know what to think of me; reiterates that she feels uninvolved.

Post 13: Thinks sally's innocent but Mnemo's not; thinks Morsul is innocent; thinks Boro's innocent.

Post 14: Mostly banter; says that wolves "don't suspect" the most people.

Post 15: Says 'someone' is jumpy, then says she xed with 'everybody, so I don't know who she was refering to. Lommy, care to explain?

Post 16: Banter with Mnemo.

Post 17: Doesn't want to lynch herself, Boro, me, or Inzil; wouldn't be sorry to lynch Pitchie or Mnemo.

Post 18: Votes Mnemo.

Post 19: Here she switches her positions entirely. Suddenly she's suspicious of Mac, but not of Nog or Mnemo. Where'd that come from?

Post 20: Says she'll be around; says she wouldn't mind if I were lynched but wouldn't be surprised if I were innocent; thinks Wilwa's innocent.

Post 21: Thinks Wilwa is slightly creepy; thinks Boro's innocent.

Post 22: Says Mac and Shasta have good points; notes that Mnemo's in the lead.

Post 23: Doesn't have time to reread; thought I was guilty and is confused by my reveal; thinks Nienna's voting might be wolfish; thinks Morsul's self-vote is weird, but makes sense by his logic and is not wolfish; says she didn't suspect Mnemo much on Day 1; suspects Nienna, Sally, and Shasta most.

Post 24: Doesn't suspect: herself, Greenie, Boro, me, Pitchie, Nerwen, Bes, and Morsul; Suspects: Eomer, Sally, Nienna, Mac, Shasta, Wilwa, Brinn, and Nog.

Post 25: Doesn't think that Sally's jump on Wilwa was bad, but thinks she's desperate to avoid lynching.

Post 26: Asks what was wrong about 'cathegories'.

Post 27: Thinks Shasta isn't on enough and spends too much of his time defending himself rather than wolf-hunting; thinks Brinn might be a wolf and Nienna innocent.

Post 28: Banter about the 'cathegory' thing; thinks Sally's trying to hard to be nice.

Post 29: Thinks Shasta's last minute list was suspicious, but the list itself was fine; votes Nienna because she (Nienna) was the best off the candidates, but she (Lommy) wouldn't mind if Wilwa died instead.

Post 30: Banter about the voting tie.

Post 31: Admits that Nienna was probably innocent after her death is assured; she seems to have gotten this from the fact that Nienna was, in fact, lynched? I'm not following that one...

All in all, I do think Lommy's probably another wolf, and I'm still suspicious of Bes, but I"m not going to analyze him again.
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*has an idea but doesn't think it will be received very well*

First of all....Lottie, you only get one dream, correct? Did I understand that right?
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*has an idea but doesn't think it will be received very well*

First of all....Lottie, you only get one dream, correct? Did I understand that right?
Yes, that's right. What's the idea? And why do I get the feeling I shouldn't have asked?

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Reading and commenting at the same time...

Loslote, please, next time you interpret my posts in an obscure way, can you put the numbers of the posts there so that I can find them and explain? I'm very annoyed at my computer and a radio channel called Groove FM and the last thing I need is a wishy washy case on me which I can't even defend myself against because it is unclearly presented. /end rant

Ok sorry but that really irked me. Now off to actually reply the stuff which I feel I should reply to or where I feel you were misrepresenting me:

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Post 19: Here she switches her positions entirely. Suddenly she's suspicious of Mac, but not of Nog or Mnemo. Where'd that come from?
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Mac is getting weird and jumpy. (Ha! Fourth jumpy wolf!) Nog, on the other hand, seems more reasonable.

Only the fact that Mnemo is gathering more and more suspicion is making me doubtful: like I've been telling people who never listen to me (:P), if someone who is not shouting a wolf is lynched with too much of a consensus s/he's probably an innocent.
=> representation doesn't really do justice to me. Mac's and Nog's behaviour changed a bit, so I notified it, but it doesn't mean I changed my mind about them. And I certainly was still suspicious of Mnemo, just slightly worried because so many others were feeling (or "feeling") the same way.

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Post 31: Admits that Nienna was probably innocent after her death is assured; she seems to have gotten this from the fact that Nienna was, in fact, lynched? I'm not following that one..
"Admits"? Huh, that sounds quite bad. And I got that from Shasta voting her; I just got this sudden feeling she must be innocent since Shasta voted her. I'm not claiming that makes sense, I just got a feeling like that and posted it. And I do suspect Shasta himself.

Err sorry Loslote, don't take this personally, I mean not to bash you as a person, or diss your merits in this game (after you got us a wolf!) but I just feel you're misrepresenting me which does not make me exactly happy. I believe you're innocent* and thus not purposefully making a case that seems really silly (at least to me) but I just think you're not tight (obviously ) and grasping at straws.

*although there is the possibility that Los and Pitch are both wolves, but that would be really suicidial of them and easily found out, so it doesn't really make sense.

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Talking of Mr. Agreeable... there's quite little he suspected and thus there's probably quite little to read from his posts - which doesn't mean we should just not check his posting as well. We should actually read closely what he has said of other people. But I think it might be even more enlightening to see how others related to him - especially when there was something like a suspicion on him which then suddenly disappeared. So how did it actually fade? I remember myself suspecting him but soon realising basically no one suspected him anymore and then I decided to focus on others - but was it just his sweet-talking as Mr. Agreeable or were there anything outside of what he said himself that triggered the change?
If I have time, I will look at his and Mnemo's interactions with people so that I may form a sort of consistent picture - that would be interesting. I myself dropped my suspicions of Pitchwife after a few people had argued that his and Mnemo's interactions seemed unfellowish and I took their arguments as plausible, especially as I had gradually felt les and less bad about Pitchie. And once I had decided to consider him innocent for the time being, there was nothing that would've changed my mind...

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"Nogrod has quite good points against Pitchie, but I still wonder about him too." Lommy, when you say "him", which "him" are you referring to? Pitch or Nog?
I was referring to Nog. (That was like "Nogrod has good points that make me suspect Pitch, but I still suspect Nogrod as well".)

It's a pity Loslote gets only one dream, not only for the obvious reasons, but also because I was thinking it would've been a brilliant bluff if she'd been a secret normal seer and she would've claimed to be a secret limited seer. Oh well.

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It was a mistake to lynch Nienna, she was the easy lynch, the most obvious suspect usually turns out innocent, blah, blah, blah.
I (obviously) agree it was a mistake, but really, Sally was much more like "the obvious suspect" of the Day than her if you ask me. Speaking of which, I'm still quite torn about Sally. She's weird.

Nogrod's replies to Mac are weird, but then again, Mac is weird himself. Gar. Actually, if I have time, I would like to have a look at those two. They're been playing nice quite easily and they give me bad vibes every now and then but then I forget about it always... I think they merit a closer look.

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The reason for suspecting you (at least for me) is mostly your horrible voting record (yesterDay it was just sketchy, now it's pretty evil).
Yes, the voting record, and your general manner, popping in just for a while and using at least 50% of your energy to defending yourself. This Day has been much better, though; I liked your summary. But I still suspect you.

*needs to think about various stuff*
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I'm having trouble coming up with anything like a decent counter to the arguments that favor voting Pitch today. As has been stated by others, if Pitch isn't a wolf, then Lottie will get lynched tomorrow and that's still a wolf down (probably). If Pitch is a wolf, apologies and thanks are in order, if only on my part, to Lottie. We lose Pitch, of course, and that's sad if he's innocent, but apparently how the game is played. Sorry Pitch.

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=> representation doesn't really do justice to me. Mac's and Nog's behaviour changed a bit, so I notified it, but it doesn't mean I changed my mind about them. And I certainly was still suspicious of Mnemo, just slightly worried because so many others were feeling (or "feeling") the same way.
So when other people started feeling the same way, you backed off. I'm sorry, but that's the way you're coming off to me...

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Well.....I'm grateful it wasn't me who was lynched (and was honestly surprised to come home and see that I wasn't), but I hate that I was a part of the Nienna lynch. But it is good to know that today will be more useful, even if Pitch ends up innocent then we know who to go for tomorrow. Thank you Lottie.

Now Boro, I am a fabulous dancer, but I don't think I'm gonna bother. It's not getting me anywhere, and it's making me think we may just be the next NogRoa, just two extremely stubborn innocents who won't give in. Though if you end up succeeding and getting me lynched and you're a wolf, I'm never trusting you again.

Don't have much more time tonight, just wanted to make my presence known quickly, but I have the whole day off tomorrow so I'll be around quite a bit.
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Summarizing Greenie's posts:

Post 1: Thinks the discussion/squabble over lynching sensible people is senseless (very sensible of her); doesn't suspect Lommy, Brinn, Boro, or Nog; vaugely suspects Roa, Morsul, Inzil, and Nerwen.

Post 2: Says that voting records are helpful even if there aren't bandwagoning wolves.

Post 3: Appreciates the discussion, but advises people to calm down; doesn't agree with Nog (or understand what his point was); agrees with Lommy that innocentRoa and innocentNog wouldn't attack each other with no evidence; corrects Boro on what Nog really said; doesn't think Roa Awolf would purposefully mistake the number of wolves; doesn't think a cobblerNog would act the way he was acting.

Post 4: Thinks Boro, Lommy, Eomer, Pitchie, Brinn, and Mac are probably innocent; has no idea about Inzil, me, Nienna, Sally, Nerwen, Roa, Bes, Shasta, Wilwa, and Kehra; is wary of Mnemo, Nog, and Morsul.

Post 5: Says that Lommy's list isn't non-helpful.

Post 6: Doesn't know what to think about Nog; suspects Mnemo, but doesn't have time to do a proper analysis.

Post 7: Banter with Eomer.

Post 8: Votes Mnemo.

Post 9: Says that Nog is implying that if someone doesn't see what he sees, they are not an ordo.

Post 10: Says she chose to vote Mnemo instead of Nog because she wanted to give him more time to make sense; thinks Mnemo's post is weird; doesn't know what to think about Pitchie, Shasta, or me; wants to trust Boro and Nerwen.

Post 11: Banter with Lommy; sugests that Lommy could be wolf-on-wolf ing; doesn't know what to think about Mnemo, but still suspects her; corrects Boro - she didn't jump on Morsul, just disagree with him; admits that she may have jumped on Nog; banter.

Post 12: Doesn't suspect: Boro, Eomer, Brinn, Mac, and Lommy; has no idea: Inzil, Morsul, Pitchie, Nienna, Sally, Nog, Nerwen, Bes, Shasta, Wilwa, Kehra; is wary of: Mnemo and me.

Post 13: Asks Eomer and Sally for clarification on their posts.

Post 14: Warns that she'll probably vote soon and then study/go to bed.

Post 15: Votes Mnemo.

Post 16: Says she's here and reading.

Post 17: Doesn't suspect: Boro, me, Morsul, Mac, Lommy, and Nerwen; no idea about: Brinn, Nerwen, Nog, Bes, and Wilwa; is wary of: Eomer, Pitchie, Sally, and Shasta.

Post 18: Notes that Sally's jump on Wilwa looks opportunistic; says she'll probably vote Eomer, Sally, Pitchie, or Shasta.

Post 19: Thinks Eomer looks really suspicious; is willing to vote Wilwa, but wants to vote Eomer, Sally, Pitchie, or Shasta.

Post 20: Thanks Nienna for the vote count; votes Sally.
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So, it looks like a simple matter then Today.

We lynch Pitch and if he's a wolf then it's two down. If he's not, then we lynch Lottie the next Day and we are either two wolves down or just one wolf and an evil additional role.

If it is the first thing, then yay Lottie! Interesting pick and well done! *bows*


But even if the script is there for toDay, let's not waste a good Day just sleeping over it.
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