WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice

[Loslote]

Here and reading.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

It's not because you've defended me, but you were dead on about wolf-Boro backing away from controversial statements, and not desiring to slam down to try and prove I'm right. Of course Eomer and Morsul are also right to point out my unpredictability and the thrill of the fight, as a wolf, I wouldn't say I'm more cautious, but I definitely choose my battles more carefully.

I love the feeling of having no responsibility besides making a vote. I can just say whatever I want and not care what happens to me, nor feel like if I die early that I'm letting anyone down.

Given that playstyles can change at any time, I hope you don't mind if I take your "yeah that's totally how I'd act as a wolf, and since I'm not acting like that, don't suspect me" at face value, Boro.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Can we assume that based on people believing there would be an actual lynch that neither Inzil nor Mac are gifted?

I don't know, is that something you want the wolves to think? Wasn't there a game a few months ago where you and Phantom teamed up to get Aganzir killed by the wolves because she was an ordo they thought to be gifted?



To answer Mac - I wasn't "sure" that you and Mnemo were innocent, but to my mind there was less "evidence" against either than you than there was against Inzil, who was the only other possible lynch. I didn't vote for him because you suggested it.

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Which is why I've decided that I'm not going to vote to try to save people anymore, much less vote "politically." And I encourage others to follow suit.

Why not? If, after going through the evidence, I'm not comfortable about someone's guilt, and there are two people up for execution, I'm going to try to save the one I feel better about. Throwing away my vote on someone I don't feel strongly about executing seems rather pointless to me.



Re: Boro at #202. Interesting that he finds innocent the two people I find most suspicious today.



To answer Nogrod - What early case against Morsul? I wasn't referring to the content of his post, I was referring to the way it was worded. Hence the bolding.



Back in a moment with a rather interesting point on Brinn I found while re-reading - I felt it deserved its own post. I'm sure you're all very thrilled.

[Mnemosyne]

Shasta: because suddenly guilt becomes relative.

[Mnemosyne]

Morsul: Touche, touche...

But it's always easy to vote for someone who you think voted weird. I didn't vote for you because 1). you were pretty yourself, as far as I could tell (which my vibes yesterday were saying were off for Inzil and Pitch... analysis of both hopefully coming up in an hour or two), and 2). to me it felt like doing so would be a copout. I don't like making "easy" votes in Werewolf, unless the Seer has come out and told me who a wolf is.

[Loslote]

Really, I think only Nog, Lommy, and Bes look at all wolvish to me. I suppose Morsul, Mnemo, or Pitchie could also be wolves, but I seriously don't have any reasons.

EDIT: xed with wilwa

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Heh... It took me some time to make it... I think... but I never understood your point anyway. All Greek to me.

I mean I thought Roa was jumping on you to make you look suspicious - and that looked like a targeted thing. But Mac tried to introduce a kind of general "interpretive net" from the basis of which anyone reacting (or not reacting) to you could be said being suspicious (which is not only baseless but also ridiculous).

Or did you have something else in mind?

Nope, I see the difference now. Still I'm confused why you think what Mac did was "baseless and ridiculous." All info goes through personal interpretation. The only way we feel 100% confident about someone is if the seer gives us a wolf, or if a wolf goes suicidal.

Right now, everything you have looked at, all your stuff on Roa was your own interpretation leading you to believe she was a wolf. You were wrong, that doesn't make you a wolf, it just means all the "data" you looked at you interpretted incorrectly. Mac was looking at all the reactions towards what I said and tried to interpret how a wolf(ves) would react, just as you looked at it and though Roa saw it as a chance to target me and purposefully misrepresent what I said.

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

This post makes no sense to me. Seems like a lot of talk for nothing. The last line is weird.

An attempt at a humorous response to Nog's frustration about people's general inactivity. I was trying to point out the many various different personalities and characteristics of humans.

I'll put it in educational lingo, from one future teacher to another. You should be familiar with "group-work." You notice how some people step right in to take charge of the group, others aren't comfortable with taking charge and might prefer to have a "group leader" to bounce their own ideas off of. Other people are the work-horses who don't create the ideas, but do the writing/work so they can contribute. And of course there are always a few who just want all the work done for them. The general point to Nog though was cool down (literally and figuratively) we are all naturally different, and have different personalities...we all can't be the "group leader" nor are we all the "creative/come up with ideas" type...etc.

As far as the last sentence it was a reference to one of Tolkien's letters where he writes "I neither preach nor teach" plus Reynold de Chatillon (played by Brendon Gleason in Kingdom of Heaven, which I just watched the previous day). It served no purpose besides trying to amuse myself with word play.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

An attempt at a humorous response to Nog's frustration about people's general inactivity. I was trying to point out the many various different personalities and characteristics of humans.

I'll put it in educational lingo, from one future teacher to another. You should be familiar with "group-work." You notice how some people step right in to take charge of the group, others aren't comfortable with taking charge and might prefer to have a "group leader" to bounce their own ideas off of. Other people are the work-horses who don't create the ideas, but do the writing/work so they can contribute. And of course there are always a few who just want all the work done for them. The general point to Nog though was cool down (literally and figuratively) we are all naturally different, and have different personalities...we all can't be the "group leader" nor are we all the "creative/come up with ideas" type...etc.

As far as the last sentence it was a reference to one of Tolkien's letters where he writes "I neither preach nor teach" plus Reynold de Chatillon (played by Brendon Gleason in Kingdom of Heaven, which I just watched the previous day). It served no purpose besides trying to amuse myself with word play.

Oookkkaayyy....well stop with the word play, it hurts my brain.

So I'm caught up, and now exhausted and confused. Boro weirds me out still, but I'm pretty sure that's normal, I think our mod time together instilled in me an automatic desire to be against him . Nog I'm actually really sure about, even if his reasoning may seem a bit flimsy. Nerwen and Mnemo I'm good with. Everyone else is still up in the air.

The 3 vote getters from yesterday, I don't really get, I can't really see why they were all voted for. That's one think I will look at tomorrow after I sleep and go to school.

Which I will do right now. So that's it from me, but I should have a few hours of steady participation tomorrow between study sessions.

[Loslote]

Okay, I'll have to vote way early. Deadline problems again...and I have no idea who to vote for.

Inzil and Mac don't look furry to me, so I don't think I'll be voting for them.

Morsul is suspicious looking, but then, I always suspect him, mostly because I can't follow his logic.

I've never played with Eomer before, but he seems to be making sense, so I don't think I'd vote for him today unless something extreme happens.

I can't get a read on Boro, despite the 'issue' yesterDay - or maybe because of it.

Brinn is another one I always suspect. This game I think she's good, which worries me...gah. Enough paranoia.

Pitchie looks suspicious, but I don't have anything solid yet. I think I will look more closely at him.

Mnemo doesn't seem furry, but I'm not anywheres near certain, and am not crossing her off the list anytime soon.

I haven't gotten much read on Nienna yet.

Nogrod is the most suspicious yet...but even he doesn't scream wolf...more like whisper it.

Not getting much from Sally, either.

Lommy seems suspicious, but I have no reason for it.

Nerwen looks good. At least, I haven't seen anything that doesn't seem genuine yet.

Bes is new. I don't know his style yet, but he does seem a tad bit off. I'll look at him later, probably not toDay.

I don't think Shasta's a wolf...but I can't quite tell.

Wilwa hasn't been around much due to RL. Understandable.

Haven't picked much up on Greenie yet, either.

Tromkehra's new, too. Can't tell very much, but his (her?) repeated posing in role kind of rankles...but not in a particularly furry way...

That turned into a list. I wasn't actually expecting that. I do lists a lot, don't I?

EDIT: xed with Shasta, Morsul, and Mnemo

[Morsul the Dark]

Mnem:On the other hand, Morsul is irritatingly confusing and often confused. Which he is (for me, at least) elsewhere on the thread. Voting him would be easy, especially considering his vote for Mac.

Morsul is suspicious looking, but then, I always suspect him, mostly because I can't follow his logic.

The fact that I just quooted Mnem saying basically the same thing as Loslate made me laugh

Told you I get that a lot.