Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Groin Redbeard · 11-25-2009, 12:22 PM

Holy mule fritters! What in the blue blazes happened when I was gone?! I expected a couple posts showing approval or disapproval of Lithor's challenge, but nothing like him being accused of treason! This makes for an interesting turn of events. Unexpected and fun.

I wrote a post for Lithor that expresses his confusion. He has never been reprimanded in such a sever and public way before and he is not use to rebelling to authority. Lithor is very depressed at his merry making going wrong and being accused of something so sever as treason, so it is expected that he takes the path he did.

Gwathagor · 11-25-2009, 02:58 PM

Not sure how Crabannan feels about being compared to a doe in the springtime - but nice touch with the Henry V quote. May as well borrow from the best!

Nogrod · 11-25-2009, 03:19 PM

Well, well, well... we seem to have some problems in our hands.

Okay, first things first. Sorry Groin, but you will have to actually edit your post a bit.

For two reasons: first of all lord Athanar would have stopped Lithor's speech very soon, probably already when he started it. Secondly lord Athanar would not have ordered his men to take him out as a martyr: that would be the most stupid thing he could do on that situation (and with his experience he would sure know not to let happen).

You have written a nice post for Lithor making him a much richer character he has been and thence I think we should let that part stay - even if lord Athanar would have stopped him as I said.

But the ending is more problematic and I do suggest you edit it. If things went like you have described them, lord Athanar is not only a fool but an evil fool - and Lithor's move and the fact that Athanar accepted it just like that, without a word - will leave us a situation where there is little good to be done. And with one post you have decided on my character's characteristics a great deal - into a direction I really wouldn't like to take him.

It leaves us to decide how to settle that ending... I'll go back to re-read it and try to come up with suggestions that would fit lord Athanar's profile.

But on a general note, it's great to see roleplaying getting this intense! Hurray to everyone!

Then let's just find a way out to our characters...

And I wish to underline what has been in a way said already, that we really should keep an eye on separating us the writers (and our knowledge of the situation and of each other) from our characters (who are only perceiving things from their POV) - while guiding them forwards.

PS. I only checked the word "treason" from a dictionary while reading the latest posts a while ago... I see now that I wasn't actually meaning that... (I had always thought that "high-treason" was the big one).

Well no use crying over spilt milk. I'll just have to use some imagination if lord Athanar will be pressed on that...

Nogrod · 11-25-2009, 03:42 PM

OMG... I don't like what I see. For the closer I read the last post the clearer it is that lord Athanar would have had basically none of it...

But however I try to read it, it's quite clear Athanar would have interrupted at least Lithor coming back to the issue of temporary lordship and especially to his own oath of loyalty. I mean that is the absolutely last line lord Athanar would just listen silently.

I'll PM you some suggestions Groin if we could incorporate some dialogue there... as soon as I can.

It would be sad to keep you others waiting because of this. (With waiting I mean "not knowing the outcome".)

Durelin · 11-25-2009, 04:00 PM

Sorry to have disappeared. I'm still going to be pretty busy through this next week as I have papers and projects to finish.

I'm caught up on reading, and regret that I haven't been able to post. I'll start working on a post to put Coen at the banquet and react to things, but I'll wait and see what happens with the last post (I probably won't have a post done until it's all resolved, anyway...)

And personally I'd say 'treason' is pretty close. It's certainly 'contempt' or something. I'm not sure what a better word for it is...hmmm... And not necessarily the 'challenge' idea on its own being treason (though the timing of it is pretty nuts), but the words themselves.

We have a number of characters with a flair for the dramatic, lol. I don't know if Coen can handle this, especially if they are among the soldiers he's supposed to be in charge of!

Folwren · 11-25-2009, 05:30 PM

Nogrod, I'd say go ahead and work in some of your writing with Groin's post by PM. It might take a little time, but I for one am willing to wait a little while.

Sometimes Groin is on multiple times in a day, but apparently, he didn't get on at all for something like 24 hours between his last two posts. Maybe now, though, he'll check up on this more often, since his character is in trouble.

-- Foley

Nogrod · 11-25-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

Nogrod, I'd say go ahead and work in some of your writing with Groin's post by PM. It might take a little time, but I for one am willing to wait a little while.

I've just sent Groin some suggestions as to how we could deal with this. If we can get online tomorrow at the same time we could prepare the editing of the post together and if not I have left him a number of lines for lord Athanar to make at different places of Lithor's monologue so that he could choose where to bring Athanar in...

Hopefully we can get this done by tomorrow as it will be the Thanksgiving weekend for you guys and I will be at a theatre festival in another city without a permanent access online. So it would be nice for those who are actually able to post that they would know the situation and thus be able to post.

Thumbs up.

11-25-2009, 12:22 PM	#1
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	Holy mule fritters! What in the blue blazes happened when I was gone?! I expected a couple posts showing approval or disapproval of Lithor's challenge, but nothing like him being accused of treason! This makes for an interesting turn of events. Unexpected and fun. I wrote a post for Lithor that expresses his confusion. He has never been reprimanded in such a sever and public way before and he is not use to rebelling to authority. Lithor is very depressed at his merry making going wrong and being accused of something so sever as treason, so it is expected that he takes the path he did. __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

11-25-2009, 02:58 PM	#2
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Not sure how Crabannan feels about being compared to a doe in the springtime - but nice touch with the Henry V quote. May as well borrow from the best! __________________ Stories and songs.

11-25-2009, 03:19 PM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Well, well, well... we seem to have some problems in our hands. Okay, first things first. Sorry Groin, but you will have to actually edit your post a bit. For two reasons: first of all lord Athanar would have stopped Lithor's speech very soon, probably already when he started it. Secondly lord Athanar would not have ordered his men to take him out as a martyr: that would be the most stupid thing he could do on that situation (and with his experience he would sure know not to let happen). You have written a nice post for Lithor making him a much richer character he has been and thence I think we should let that part stay - even if lord Athanar would have stopped him as I said. But the ending is more problematic and I do suggest you edit it. If things went like you have described them, lord Athanar is not only a fool but an evil fool - and Lithor's move and the fact that Athanar accepted it just like that, without a word - will leave us a situation where there is little good to be done. And with one post you have decided on my character's characteristics a great deal - into a direction I really wouldn't like to take him. It leaves us to decide how to settle that ending... I'll go back to re-read it and try to come up with suggestions that would fit lord Athanar's profile. But on a general note, it's great to see roleplaying getting this intense! Hurray to everyone! Then let's just find a way out to our characters... And I wish to underline what has been in a way said already, that we really should keep an eye on separating us the writers (and our knowledge of the situation and of each other) from our characters (who are only perceiving things from their POV) - while guiding them forwards. PS. I only checked the word "treason" from a dictionary while reading the latest posts a while ago... I see now that I wasn't actually meaning that... (I had always thought that "high-treason" was the big one). Well no use crying over spilt milk. I'll just have to use some imagination if lord Athanar will be pressed on that... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-25-2009, 03:42 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	OMG... I don't like what I see. For the closer I read the last post the clearer it is that lord Athanar would have had basically none of it... But however I try to read it, it's quite clear Athanar would have interrupted at least Lithor coming back to the issue of temporary lordship and especially to his own oath of loyalty. I mean that is the absolutely last line lord Athanar would just listen silently. I'll PM you some suggestions Groin if we could incorporate some dialogue there... as soon as I can. It would be sad to keep you others waiting because of this. (With waiting I mean "not knowing the outcome".) __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 11-25-2009 at 03:51 PM.

11-25-2009, 05:30 PM	#6
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Nogrod, I'd say go ahead and work in some of your writing with Groin's post by PM. It might take a little time, but I for one am willing to wait a little while. Sometimes Groin is on multiple times in a day, but apparently, he didn't get on at all for something like 24 hours between his last two posts. Maybe now, though, he'll check up on this more often, since his character is in trouble. -- Foley __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

11-25-2009, 04:00 PM	#5
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Sorry to have disappeared. I'm still going to be pretty busy through this next week as I have papers and projects to finish. I'm caught up on reading, and regret that I haven't been able to post. I'll start working on a post to put Coen at the banquet and react to things, but I'll wait and see what happens with the last post (I probably won't have a post done until it's all resolved, anyway...) And personally I'd say 'treason' is pretty close. It's certainly 'contempt' or something. I'm not sure what a better word for it is...hmmm... And not necessarily the 'challenge' idea on its own being treason (though the timing of it is pretty nuts), but the words themselves. We have a number of characters with a flair for the dramatic, lol. I don't know if Coen can handle this, especially if they are among the soldiers he's supposed to be in charge of!