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Old 11-05-2009, 05:14 PM   #1
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Makes you wonder though, if Tom isn't interested in the workings of men, the downfall of Sauron or the end of the age of the Rings, then where do his loyalties lie? Surely in the earth itself, the trees, the water, the shores, the stars and everything that was created and lasting, that is of course unless its very existence is threatened! What does Tom care about? ;
Tom actually appears to know a great deal about the history of Middle-earth; he was aware of the Ring and its power, the Dunedain of Arnor, all the way back to the time of the Elves awakening. Just because he may not have played an active part in those histories doesn't mean he was oblivious to them.
Maybe he had become so enamoured of the 'natural' elements of Arda he was content to idly sit and watch time pass.

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Neither do I suspect Tom would be giving Gandalf absolution. In fact it would seem to me that was already granted upon his return following his apparent demise after the battle with the Balrog of Moria;
I don't see it as absolution so much as Gandalf looking for someone to whom he could finally lay all his thoughts bare, leaving him at peace with himself and his finished task.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:00 AM   #2
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First think about a possibility to talk with Tom... about any- and everything you want to know...

Now let us concentrate on the exact words:
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I am going to have a long talk with Bombadil: such a talk as I have not had in all my time. He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling. But my rolling days are ending, and now we shall have much to say to one another.’
Gandalf's part in Middle-Earth was always rushing here and there... and he would have probably thought of more questions than you. And Tom being rushed wouldn't work.

I always thought the conversation was kind of award for Gandalf, to learn everythig he always wanted to know from Tom, without having to keep the clock in eye.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:33 AM   #3
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I have no issues with the words Gandalf uses, simply the content of the conversation. I honestly believe Tolkien had something else in mind other than the current events of the day (age), though I do not doubt they would have been discussed. Somehow I feel the depth of the conversation would be broader in scope than might be understood by men, dwarves or elves. Tom and Gandalf are behemoths of the ancient world clad in raiment suited to their respective roles in this age. Tom will remain, Gandalf will not as his work is complete and, as he always understood he would return to the west and finally, home. Tom I suspect is home and one wonders whether Gandalf has knowledge or foresight to impart on him prior to his departure. Tom it seems, should he be maiar as some may contend, would be alone in the world as all contact with the west would cease. This is his last conversation with a kindred spirit (excluding Goldberry) methinks.

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