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11-05-2009, 02:54 PM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves
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Roa: Sorry, I just don't get your analysis on Boro...
Where are the deductions there from? How are you making those points from Boro's posting? What kind of "theory of motivation" do you use there? Boro is most suspicious of someone = points away from that person as one who'd kill him during the Night? Boro suspected someone = that person would have killed him? Boro "slightly" suspected someone = that person probably didn't go to kill him? Boro considers voting for someone = maybe not enough to kill him? Not only do I find this "analysis" odd but also a bit too purpose-oriented... And how do you find me and Greenie being in cahoots, on the basis of what Boro said? How would his words be any authority on that, how would have his words related to anything asa he was a bear and knew nothing? Still you say your deductions are based "solely on this" ( = your analysis on what Boro said). Are your werewolf -schemes getting better of your good sense and you were creating there a wannabe conspiracy-theory of three wolves and forgot that Boro was a Bear? Or did I miss something?
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11-05-2009, 03:15 PM
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Gruesome Spectre
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Heaven's doorstep
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Fea, Lari, and Loslote have been mostly in my thoughts toDay. The reasons are obvious: the Hakon and Morsul voters still look to be the best bet for wolf-spotting. Question is, who comes off looking the worst? Fea tacked on the final nail for Morsul, and seemed a bit proud of it. Lari brought the second vote for Hakon not long after Sally voted him. An ill innocent not having the time or inclination to look over things thoroughly, or an ill wolf jumping onto what looked to be a safe target? Loslote looked very bad to me when she made the vote for Morsul. Her back-and-forth with him afterwards made her seem a little more innocent, though. I intend to look more closely at things later. Quote:
x/d with Pitch, and Roa
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11-05-2009, 03:15 PM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it.
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I don't think a wolf would kill someone who blatantly found them to be the most suspicious, as it would quite obviously point to them. I do think that a wolf might kill someone with the goal of making someone else look bad. That's why I initially thought Greenie-wolf may have killed Boromir to make you look bad. But then Boromir did a 180 on the whole thing, suspecting Greenie and not you. And then I remembered what Greenie said, about a connection between you and me, and I thought about why she would say that when I just ignored you. And then it occurred to me that she may be trying to cover up her own tracks in doing just that. It really would be a perfect cover- one of you always suspects the other, anyways, so no one would find that out of the ordinary. And if one of you got lynched, the other would automatically look good. She fell into the easy vote of voting for you, and you built a suspicion of her and then backed down. It seems rather perfect wolf-on-wolf to me. As for the rest, I tried to put myself in the position of the wolves, thinking on each person in perspective: a slight suspicion may not be worth killing over. A suspicion that wasn't exactly slight, but wasn't the strongest? Well, that has the potential to be dangerous and grown into the strongest suspicion. I may be over-thinking it. Boro wasn't shy about discussing the bear, so it's possible the wolves picked him out. Or maybe the wolves just wanted to get rid of a strong player that could be a threat to them later. The point is that we don't know, so we have to continue to look at all the possibilities. This alone wouldn't be enough to lynch anyone, which is why I emphasized the "based solely on this" part. Edit: Crossed with Pitch and Inzil.
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11-05-2009, 03:18 PM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it.
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Also, of course it's purpose oriented. My purpose is to find out why the wolves killed Boro.
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11-05-2009, 04:05 PM
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Wight of the Old Forest
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall
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Greenie's stated reason for voting Nog yesterDay, other than retaliating, was 'because he makes weak reasons sound big'. Going through his early posts yesterDay (before she first said this) I could find only two points to which she may have referred, other than his suspecting her to be the Bear:
1. his case for SpM being the cobbler, which was chiefly based on the FWI discussion and relied on SpM rather misinterpreting the narration on purpose than being genuinely confused; 2. his suspicion (backed by linguistic nitpicking) that Roa had only pretended to be confused about the number of wolves. Looked overblown to me at the time, but likely a language problem. Note that he used 1. to corroborate the Greenie=Bear hypothesis: Quote:
And that's about it. Grasping at straws? Maybe, but on purpose and with malevolent intent?
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