T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter

[satansaloser2005]

Tomorrow's deadline day at the paper, so I don't think I'll be around all that much. I'm pretty sure of Lommie's guilt, based on a brief readthrough and such, but I am going to wait to vote just because if the village decides to go for someone else I don't want to help the wolves do a vote split. But we do need to pick a new captain. My choices are as follows:

Me
Nienna
Kath
Gwath/Lottie
Nerwen
Anyone else but Lommie


Going to do a few things for work now so I don't have to scramble tomorrow. Back soon!

[Nerwen]

Back. Reading.

...And sorry for not being around. My internet access is patchy at the moment.

I will tell say now that I don't have much more of an idea about Lommy now than yesterDay, mainly because we weren't able to be online at the same time.

EDIT:And Gwath didn't show at all.

[Nerwen]

I don't want to be captain, by the way. I just can't guarantee being online at the right times.

Anyway, it doesn't matter unless we get a wolf toDay.

[Nerwen]

And the internet keeps cutting out me, so I'd better vote now.

[Nerwen]

So I have to go, and probably won't be able to get online again toDay.

++Kath for Captain
*shrug* she seems okay...

++Guard Nienna
I'm no longer as sure about her, but I still trust her more than Lommy

++Lynch Lommy
Because she seemed vaguely shifty last Night and has done some questionable things. Like I said, though, I couldn't get much of a read on her at all.

That's the best I can do.

Good luck.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Tomorrow's deadline day at the paper, so I don't think I'll be around all that much. I'm pretty sure of Lommie's guilt, based on a brief readthrough and such, but I am going to wait to vote just because if the village decides to go for someone else I don't want to help the wolves do a vote split. But we do need to pick a new captain. My choices are as follows:

Me
Nienna
Kath
Gwath/Lottie
Nerwen
Anyone else but Lommie


Going to do a few things for work now so I don't have to scramble tomorrow. Back soon!

I like how Lottie and I only got one line. Apparently we're the same person.

I'll hopefully be back in about 12 hours and then maybe I can get some analysis done. Right now it's time to sleep.

[satansaloser2005]

Ranger:
No more talk of Night kills,
Ignore these baddies, dear.
I'm here to tell you I rhyme
And we won't lose another time

Let me be your savior,
Let my knife save your ears
I'm here with a large shotgun
To make the wolfies all gone

Innocents:
Say you'll save me when I'm being voted,
Turn my head with talk of lupine lynch
Say you'll work to save our helpless ordos
Promise me that you're not friends with Rune
That's all I ask of you

Ranger:
Let me be your captain,
My votes will be your guide
You're safe with me to guard you
The wolves will run to high school

Innocents:
All I want is victory
A world with no more wolves
And you still to play me
To make them not fillet me

Ranger:
Then say you'll vote with me to end the baddies
Let me lead you all into a win
Say you need me to decide who survives
Anything you do, let me help too
Village, that's all I ask of you

Innocents:
Say you'll share with me one lynch, one bandwagon
Find a wolf and we will slaughter them

Ranger and Innocents:
Share each hunch with me
Each hint
Each niggling

Ranger:
Say you trust me

Innocents:
You know I do

Wolves:
Don't lynch us
That's all we ask of you


As the Innocents and the Ranger walk away arm in arm(s) the audience's attention is suddenly drawn to Steve, who is sitting alone in the cold. He is clutching his laptop, which has the Admin Thread pulled up, and is clearly upset, composing a PM to Nogrod in another (Internet Explorer, Firefox, web browser of your choice) tab.


Steve:
I gave you my Night Guards
Made your game take wing
And now how you've repaid me
I'm not even playing!
He was bound to like it when he saw my game

Noggins...
Noggins...


The light fades on Steve and we again see the Ranger and the Innocent Chorus, staring hopefully at a vote count tacked to a large post.


Ranger and Innocents:
Say you'll share with me a lynch, a victory
Say the word and I will vote with you
Share decisions and the wolves we'll conquer


The scene fades to black, but suddenly a deep voice rumbles through the thread


Sudden!Unexpected!Phantom:
You will curse the day you did not do all that the Phantom asked of you!

[Thinlómien]

Ai ai ai if you silly people lynch me, we lose... Nerwen's vote looks rather oppoturnistic, and that's why I don't like it. If the wolves are Nerwen, Kath and Gwath I'm really going to bang my head against the wall. And if they're Sally, Nienna and Loslote, I'd like to do that too because they are so clearly allied it hurts. But I really hope I was wrong about Nerwen, because unless we keep me in office (which does not seem to be an option) we're doomed with one single innocent voting another and that's it. (So yeah, if we lose now and Nerwen is innocent, I blame her. ) On the other hand, Nerwen has disastrously misjudged me as an innocent before so... but that vote was most wolvish to me.

I will hang around for a while now and come back then several hours later, and then I should have time to go through everybody's posts. As for now, I'm only confused because my initial suspicion was Nienna + Sally + Lottie and you can't deny they are allied, but Nerwen's vote looks so bad that she might really be a wolf, which means all of the three I mentioned before wouldn't be wolves. Gah. I just have a bad feeling we're going to lose this game. (If it turns out we should've killed Kath on Day1 I will be annoyed but pleased with myself.)

Btw, if there should be a tie in Captain votes, who is to decide the new Captain? Me or a coin or some rule?

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Ai ai ai if you silly people lynch me, we lose...

Who's 'we' darling? The wolves?

Originally Posted by Lommy

Nerwen's vote looks rather oppoturnistic, and that's why I don't like it.

I think it looks an awfully lot like throwing a packmate under the bus.

Originally Posted by Lommy

Btw, if there should be a tie in Captain votes, who is to decide the new Captain? Me or a coin or some rule?

Lets not have a tie. Sally is a clear choice for captain.

The wolves are: Lommy, Nerwen, and either Kath or Gwath. I need to hear more from both of them to decide.

We will also need a NG.

[satansaloser2005]

Well here's my ideal situation. Sally for Captain and Nienna for NG. Either way's fine, really, but she's the person I trust the most so I want to keep her alive.


Gonna be a busy day today, I'm afraid, but I will be around the last hour or so of the Day.

[Thinlómien]

I really really don't like the game Sally and Nienna are playing now. Sort of reckless, self-confident and arrogant, just like wolves on the eve of their victory. If they're innocent, I'm slightly offended - I don't like the way I've been straightforwardly labelled wolf and my points ignored after that. I'm not a wolf. Really not. If you don't believe me now, don't, but I hope you realise how stupid you've been after the game - unless you, Sally, Nienna and Nerwen, are the wolves, in which case, it is understandable but still annoying.

Yes, I'm annoyed. You can ask why. Probably because no one trusts me and keep ignoring stuff I say, and because you are going to kill us all by killing me out of sheer arrogance without even bothering to make a single actual point against me. My trouble with people in this village is that when it's the last Day and we should really consider carefully, half of the people are eager to jump to conclusions without doing any research or bothering to make any cases.

Gwath is the only one who seems not to be decided already, and that's why he looks the most innocent to me. Also, I don't think a wolf would say this:

Originally Posted by Gwath

I would be hesitant to trust anything said in that kind of confidence, since I'm guessing it's going to be way easier for a wolf to fool someone in a closed, controlled environment where the wolf gets to determine every word you read and you don't have the running commentary of the rest of the village to (theoretically) keep you sane. I'm not saying you're wrong, Nienna, I'm just saying that we have to evaluate everyone based on what they say during the Day, when we are all listening. That's the only safe way, because that's when we're more likely to see a player's true colors - when the combined spotlights of the attention of the whole village can be turned upon them.

As for others, no idea. I used to trust Nerwen but not anymore. Is Loslote guilty or misguided? Is Nienna blinded by her grand "visions" or a wolf pressing for an easy victory? Is Sally really an innocent who feels comfortable about getting a wolf or a wolf taking it easy at the face of almost certain victory? And did Nerwen make an innocent misjudgement on me again or is she just jumping on the obvious wagon-to-be? And where is Kath and what is she?

This game gives me headache. And no, I'm not begging for sympathy or pity, I'm just being grumpy. I have been innocent and seen the village lose in the last half a dozen games and this game is going to be one more failure in the row. It is sort of depressing (as is probably getting lynched as an ordo on the last Day with whatsoever no "evidence" against me, but that's a side issue, that is bound to happen to someone when almost half of the village are wolves).

Originally Posted by Nienna

Who's 'we' darling? The wolves?

Certainly. And sure, aren't it the wolves who are going to lose this game if they lose one of them toDay?

Originally Posted by Nienna

I think it looks an awfully lot like throwing a packmate under the bus.

The smartest thing to do when you're under severe suspicion and the pack is one innocent lynch short of victory. Grasping at straws, are you, Nienna dear?

Originally Posted by Nienna

Sally is a clear choice for captain.

Why?

Now, I'm off to do what everyone should do once they have time. That is, research. (But why would wolves do that anymore since they already know who they want to die and who not... )

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Btw, if there should be a tie in Captain votes, who is to decide the new Captain? Me or a coin or some rule?

The answer is:

Originally Posted by me in #398

So, if the Captaincy-vote ends up in draw not including the current Captain as part of the draw (he would continue as the C. if he were one involved in the draw as said earlier)...

Then it will be up to the old Captain to choose. That's a lot better than if I'd toss a coin for it, or make a boring "who got them first / last" -thing.

Secondly:

Originally Posted by Sally

Nog, what do we get guard-wise, my lovely?

Well the rules say that when you are 6 or less there will be no guards anymore... but you are still 7 now, so I'd interpret it in the way that you should pick the guards still toDay - and if there is a toMorrow, then not anymore (you'd be 5-6 by then and the case would be clear).

I mean one could argue that as there will be only 6 left during the Night there shouldn't be any guards picked toDay anymore. But I do think there will be more nice options available to both sides if there are guards yet this Night. And first and foremost, as said, you're still 7.

If anyone has strong arguments against this ruling please PM me about it and I will promise to consider it (let's not discuss it here in the thread).

Meanwhile you should consider whom to appoint as an NG and vote for one.

And anyway. If you lynch an innocent toDay the question will be purely speculative...