T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

But really, dear, are you denying that it's something you'd do? Because my sweet, you're my RL Person. I know you better than that. Even if it's not something you did do, it's certainly something you would do.

The situation between Brinn and I is slightly different between our situation, dear. You and I lived in the same bedroom where my computer was visible to you whenever you were in the room. You also know me, and my former packmates, very well so killing you was the logical thing to do to get rid of a threat to us. Brinn and I do not live in the same room and my computer is hardly ever visible to her. She made it fine as a wolf last game without killing me. If I was a wolf and killing people who were close to me you would have been the first to go, Fea. You defy even your own logic. If people are suspected every time one of their RL friends die in the game we would get nowhere. It maybe something to keep in mind but that you can loose entire confidence in me, who you do know very well, from the death of Brinn makes me suspect you even more.

Originally Posted by Legate

how was sally, Nienna? Anything to add to your Nightly campfire discussion?

Sally's gained my full trust. She is now up there with you, Legate, on the people who are innocent list. We didn't get a chance to talk with Kath much but from what we did get to say I'm leaning innocent for her.

I'm trying to figure out what is with Roa's obsession Gwath. She voted to NG him yesterday and toDay voted him to be captain. There must have been a reason she picked him because if she wanted to give it to anyone who isn't me then it would seem like she would pick Lommy who she wanted to give it to yesterday. What is also concerning is she is making the captain to be a big deal and yet she is willing to give it to any person (and chooses Gwath who only voted for one role - NG - on time and who voted to lynch someone who was going to be killed anyway... not to mention the fact that he didn't vote at all on Day One).

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Nienna

If I was a wolf and killing people who were close to me you would have been the first to go, Fea. You defy even your own logic.

I do not. You and Brinn share a small apartment. You and I are a few hundred miles apart. Mental closeness isn't nearly as troublesome in werewolf games as physical proximity.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nienna

I'm trying to figure out what is with Roa's obsession Gwath. She voted to NG him yesterday and toDay voted him to be captain. There must have been a reason she picked him because if she wanted to give it to anyone who isn't me then it would seem like she would pick Lommy who she wanted to give it to yesterday. What is also concerning is she is making the captain to be a big deal and yet she is willing to give it to any person (and chooses Gwath who only voted for one role - NG - on time and who voted to lynch someone who was going to be killed anyway... not to mention the fact that he didn't vote at all on Day One).

Well, I would be careful with this, for I wouldn't put it past Wolf-Roa to try to lay some false trails to other people. Because it is really weird for her to vote for Gwath, she likely would have realised we would consider that weird, and so maybe it's done deliberately. Well, whatever - in our current situation we can't judge it much well anyway.

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I do not. You and Brinn share a small apartment. You and I are a few hundred miles apart. Mental closeness isn't nearly as troublesome in werewolf games as physical proximity.

Okay, just a general remark - please, people, let's try to keep RL out of this as much as possible. I know it just goes like that sometimes, but I am always strongly against putting any meta-game reasons into the game, even if I could use them myself. It's mainly because people can hardly follow the suspicions raised in there, it may be a reason for one person, but it says nothing to the rest, they can't even determine if somebody lies or is twisting things etc. because they don't know the others in RL. I know, it's a problem, I've been facing that sometimes myself, but... well, just let's try to limit it to the minimum. It really is not "proper" WW.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

It really is not "proper" WW.

Well in that case, "I now suspect Nienna, but I can't tell you why because it wouldn't be proper, so I'll just keep my reasoning to myself."

Does that really make people feel better?

[satansaloser2005]

Here and sleepy but reading.

Quick list:

Innocent:
Kath
Legate (?)
Nerwen
Nienna
Sally
Duck
Phantom

Suspicious:
Everyone else

Gonna see who looks the easiest to analyze, as I'm slacking off and I've got time right now.


EDIT: x'd with Fea and Nerwen. Thanks for the headsup about the NG, by the way. I'll make sure I handle Kath accordingly.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

But I'm not, in fact, entirely convinced a wolf would want to be a Captain. Maybe they wouldn't mind the tie-breaking normally, but when it comes to breaking a tie between a fellow and an innocent? Either decision can be dangerous. And would they want to manipulate innocents in Nightly discussions or would they dread the extra chance to get caught? I think it's more about individual wolves (and incidentally, I would see Roa and Legate as wolves wanting to be Captains, whereas I wouldn't want to be one - not because of the tie-thing, I can do that, but because I would not want innocents questioning me during the Night-time...)[LIST]

Lommy, no doubt not all wolves would want to be Captain – but in my view it would, despite your points, give a big advantage, especially the tie-breaking and lynch-cancelling– and they'd want that in a game with so many gifteds. Especially on Day One– they couldn't know they were going to get the Master Hunter that Night (EDIT: And now there are fewer gifteds but also fewer baddies, so it still holds). I'm thinking now they might in fact have fielded a backup candidate. It would make sense, anyway.

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

If you think I'm being fatalistic, the most influential person in the village (if no one listens to me it doesn't matter how much I talk, I'm still not influential) has decided I'm suspicious, and enough people have suspicion of me that is ripe for harvesting. I'm not a fool. I've seen people lynched for using too many smilies, and Legate sounds like he's being reasonable even if he's not. The train has started and there's no stopping it now.

So then,

++Gwath for captain

I know I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said several times already– but honestly, I don't like the whole "poor me" tone of that post. Really, it's like blackmailing. And it seems excessive when no lynch votes had been cast except your own.

And I mean– Gwath? Gwath who?

On a more practical note, that NG vote for Kath doesn't count. You can't be a Guard two Nights in a row.

EDIT:X'd with 1 Legate and 2 Feas.
EDIT2:Added comment.

[Nerwen]

What is frustrating is that yesterDay was pretty much all about Legate and toDay looks like it's going to be all about Roa.

We need to look at other people. There's three wolves, after all.

EDIT:X'd with Sally.

[Kath]

Hi all. Just to let you know I will be leaving for work at 7ish my time so am a little time limited again but I will pretty much be around solidly from now til then. I do need to read up on what happened yesterDay and what's gone on so far toDay so I might not post for a bit but I am around.

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

We need to look at other people. There's three wolves, after all.

I agree. Lets look at Fea too.

Legate: I am hesitant about Gwath for the same reason. I really hope he participates some more so we can get a better idea about him.

I'm now commencing a major look at Roa as promised.

Sally, if you haven't picked someone to analyze I think Fea doesn't have too many posts so it shouldn't take you terribly long.

Edit: x-ed with Kath.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

There is something wildly fun about the prospect of helping a male sibling shop for clothing. Not an opportunity to pass up.

And I'm not sure if I'll be back before DL.

++Lommy for Captain

++Greenie for NG

++Lynch Roa.

If she wants to consider herself a lost cause, who am I to take that away from her?

[Nerwen]

And now I have to go. I hope to be back later.

Look, I'm happy to give Nienna another go as Captain (yes, despite what Fea says about her).

++Nienna for Captain

++Gwath for Night Guard

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

On a more practical note, that NG vote for Kath doesn't count. You can't be a Guard two Nights in a row.

You're quite right.

To be more precise: no one can be voted as an NG two Nights in a row - and no one can be picked as a BG two Nights in a row. Those two are the only restrictions.


ADD ON: If Roa happens to come back toDay she can change that NG-vote to make it a valid one.