T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 09-24-2009, 05:01 PM

The Rangers buried their dead with heavy hearts and packed their backpacks despite the blizzard. They were ready to continue their endless-seeming mission through the white storm to reach the Shire in time to prevent the wolves to wreak havoc on them. How impossible that seemed with the problems of their own to be sorted out!

“Don’t you think someone should need to know about our ordeal back there?” Boro called the others over the howling wind. “I could try to reach Bree! I know the way there the best of us!”

The others halted.

“If you feel it must be you, then you go” Legate said matter of factly.

“But how come you’d just sneak away? Shouldn’t we take tougher measures on you actually?” Gwath yelled.

“Why do you say that? It’s a tough quest to do all alone.” Nerwen reacted.

“Why would I like to sneak away if I was a wolf?” Boro answered somewhat irritated.

“Well, that’s not logically proven stuff you come forwards with comrade… you might be arguing in circles…” Roa muttered.

“If he wishes to go, then he goes.” Legate snapped to Roa. “He does what he sees fit and we others continue, with him or without him. That's the Captain's words.”

It was clear the two were not in the best of terms, not the least as during the morning hours it seemed they were the top contestants to be the Captain.

The pragmatic Rangers turned that rivalry off by choosing Nienna as their new Captain.

But who would they lynch toDay… that was a question they all went through in their minds while pushing through the storm that seemed to grow as the day draw nearer to the end.

That day the weather really pressed them and they soon realised they would not be able to travel very far. There was no good shelter for resting within miles and they knew it.

Finally they found a few mounds that were high enough to hide behind from the icy wind and where they could light some fires that had even slight chances of burning. Even if that hope soon turned out to be a fool’s hope.

But they had to make a choice – and as long as they all sat around the fire it kept burning as the mass of men kept the wind outside the lonely circle of light in the middle of the storming moors.

It ended up with Loslote and Valier being the ones to choose from.

“So as I’m not your Captain anymore it’s up to you Nienna to decide who…” Legate said calmly.

Nienna looked at Legate and then at the two pierced by the stare of all the other Rangers, everyone of them thinking how it would turn out this time.

“It will be Valier… give him a knife to be an honourable Ranger who faces the distrust of his companions.” Nienna finally ordered.

Valier looked scared but also annoyed. “Wait a minute! You didn’t give me even one chance to do anything! You guys call this fair? Once I’m in this you didn’t even give me one try?”

Valier denied the knife handed to him and looked at the others challengingly. “Knives…” He spat on the snow with disgust in his face and draw his sword. “There’s only one way to go for a Ranger… and that is…” He set the blade into the snow blade upwards and leaned lightly on it.

The others held their breath in honouring the composure of their brother.

“… like this!”

With that Valier threw the sword from the blade towards those nearest to him and kicked the fire down leaping away from the same footing.

“Catch him!” Nienna yelled and drew his bow.

“He’s running that way, quick after him!” Lommy called and pointed to the direction while reaching for his bow with the other hand.

Greenie had leapt after Valier already and produced his knife. “So a knife is not good enough for you traitor? Try this!” With that Greenie threw his knife after the shape that was trying to evade them into the darkness. A loud cry was heard when the knife landed on Valier’s back.

Two bows rang at the same time and before he fell down two arrows pierced him to finalise his fate.

The Rangers closed up on him carefully their weapons ready for any werewolf-tricksery, but there was none. Valier laid face down in the snow, a knife and two arrows in his back.

Suddenly his head moved a bit. "The wolves should... no... they will... prevail..."

Those were the last words of Valier the Traitor.

The Living:

Fea
Nienna
Sally
Kath
Loslote
Greenie
Nerwen
Roa
Lommy
Legate
Gwath
Brinn

The Dead:

Nogrod (mod) - turned into a werewolf and butchered on N1.
Hakon (The Master Hunter) - stuck dead on D1.
Rune (Werewolf) - killed from the sword of the Master Hunter at the end of D1.
Macalaure (The Berserk Hunter) - eaten alive by the werewolves on N2.
Inzil (Ordinary Innocent) - decapitated by the Berserk Hunter on N2.
Boro (Ordinary Innocent) - left to Bree to infor others about the Company's tough fate on D2.
Valier (The Night-Traitor aka. The Cobbler) - killed by the Rangers while trying to flee on D2.

It's Night3 now.

Hush...

Nogrod · 09-25-2009, 04:00 PM

At places the snow had piled up in drifts as high as up to a man’s waist. The Rangers dug individual holes into these drifts to make the snow keep them covered and warm.

There was no need for five people staying up in an open place like this. The wolves could not make their mischief in secret like they had done the Night before in the shadows of the trees. And everyone was dead-tired so the more people could sleep the coming Night the better. So only Nienna, Sally and Kath stayed by the fire watching over the camp – if one could call it a camp. It was more like “nine men living in makeshift hobbitholes” as Fea had put it before crawling into his hole in the snow.

The wind showed no sign of getting weaker, nor the snowfall of ceasing. And the Night went on.

With the first shades of light increasing the three decided to wake the others. They should use all the sparse daylight they had.

“Rise and shine! We’re leaving in twenty minutes!” Nienna called walking around.

“Did you say “shine”?” Lommy asked cynically after pulling his head out from the hole and getting the biting wind to his face.

“I wouldn’t take this for a Day if I hadn’t your assurances… though I’m still wavering between that and the proof of my own eyes.” Gwath grumbled.

“Don’t be sulky mates, nothing happened during the Night!” Sally answered cheerfully. “Just grin a bit softer!”

“There was no sound, no movement during the Night.” Kath confirmed.

“Blessed be the Valar." Roa said and took his backpack "Lets’ get on with it then.” only to suddenly freeze motionless.

“What is it Roa?” Nienna asked passing him by.

“Have you seen Brinn?” Roa asked.

Nienna turned to look at Brinn’s hole. His sack and his weapons were there but it seemed there was nothing else.

“Wait, there’s a tunnel under the drift here!” Nerwen shouted suddenly stepping on it less than ten meters away from Brinn’s hole.

“Let’s follow it!” Legate called and started kicking the snow from around the place where Nerwen had bumbed into the tunnel.

After a few minutes of slowly following the tunnel in the blizzard they finally saw an odd shape in the drift in front of them.

Loslote was the first one to spot it and he ran forwards fighting the snow that had piled almost up to his chest. After throwing the snow around with his bare hands he finally yelled “It’s Brinn! …and he’s… naked…”

Greenie had followed in his trails and tried frantically to find a pulse. The other Rangers fought their way slowly around the body of their mate. After a minute or two of painful silence Greenie shook his head and turned towards the others. “He’s dead. Frozen to death.”

~*~

The Living:

Fea
Nienna
Sally
Kath
Loslote
Greenie
Nerwen
Roa
Lommy
Legate
Gwath

The Dead:

Nogrod (mod) - turned into a werewolf and butchered on N1.
Hakon (The Master Hunter) - stuck dead on D1.
Rune (Werewolf) - killed from the sword of the Master Hunter at the end of D1.
Macalaure (The Berserk Hunter) - eaten alive by the werewolves on N2.
Inzil (Ordinary Innocent) - decapitated by the Berserk Hunter on N2.
Boro (Ordinary Innocent) - left to Bree to inform others about the Company's tough fate on D2. (killed by the wolves travelling alone in the blizzard)
Valier (The Night-Traitor aka. The Cobbler) - killed by the Rangers while trying to flee on D2.
Brinn (Ordinary Innocent) – stunned, dragged through a tunnel, stripped naked and left to froze to death on N3.

It's Day 3 now.

It's your turn...

Roa_Aoife · 09-25-2009, 04:11 PM

I'm only on for this moment. Nienna, why Valier and not Loslote? Also, why sally?

It's prudent to look at the people who voted for Valier, because the wolves would not have known her role, and would only know her as an innocent.

Also, once again, I call for a vote of no confidence in Nienna. Again, it's better to not allow anyone to have the full power of a captain. Even if you think they're innocent, the only way to know for sure is if you're a wolf. So without a known innocent to fill the position, we need to keep rotating for the safety of the village. It's too great a risk.

Nienna · 09-25-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

I'm only on for this moment. Nienna, why Valier and not Loslote?

I thought them both very suspicious but I've seen newbie ordos lynched off too many times to risk that. Lottie needs to participate much more today so we can make an informed decision about her. She's done getting the newbie pass from me.

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Originally Posted by Roa

Also, why sally?

Quite simply because she asked. She is also someone who I thought would be able to give me good opinions of everyone and I wanted to hear from her so I could decide on her leanings.

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Originally Posted by Roa

Also, once again, I call for a vote of no confidence in Nienna. Again, it's better to not allow anyone to have the full power of a captain. Even if you think they're innocent, the only way to know for sure is if you're a wolf. So without a known innocent to fill the position, we need to keep rotating for the safety of the village. It's too great a risk.

May I ask, Roa, why you are so interested in the position? You are my top suspect for toDay.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 09-25-2009, 04:24 PM

Okay, so I remembered last night just as Grey's started that I'd forgotten to cast a lynch vote. For what it's worth, I intended to carry out my threat to vote for Valier.

I had no solid evidence, because I'm being a lazy sack of lard this game and don't feel like doing research to support my intuition. So it was suspicion based on gut instinct of what seems sincere and what seems synthetic.

You'll note that I've been on her case for a while for seeming like a falsie.

But since I forgot to vote, that barely matters...

In theory I'll be around for much of toDay.

In theory. No guarantees. My life has turned surprisingly busy.

Roa_Aoife · 09-25-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nienna

May I ask, Roa, why you are so interested in the position? You are my top suspect for toDay.

I'm not actually interested in the position. I don't know why people are trying to put me there.

May I ask why I'm your top suspect?

(I've got about 10 minutes and then I'm off to D&D.)

Nienna · 09-25-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa

May I ask why I'm your top suspect?

Well... I actually had some confidence in you until middle of Day 2 and now that you are still alive I ask myself "why are the wolves leaving Roa alive?" You seem like the type of player who, when innocent, is a detriment to the village. I don't understand why they would leave you alive and kill Brinn (who had only posted 3 times). I accept that they may want to frame you and I won't pass major judgment on you until I have time to do a thorough analysis (probably sometime later toDay). Besides that your voting yesterDay was really strange. You voted Lommy for Captain, Gwath as NG, and Legate as lynch. The lynch vote probably sticks out for me the most as Legate is one of the few people who I don't suspect, at all.

You have also been handling the captain situation in a weird way. You say that you have no desire for the position but it seems as if you have been subtly hinting at it all game. Fea I also suspect because of her very quick vote for you for Captain. It seemed as if she was trying to lead 'her sheep' to vote you captain.

If you are so concerned about people not getting too much power then vote for no captain. That is an option. Also you were very quick today to give me a vote of no confidence. Do you have no confidence in me? Why?

Roa_Aoife · 09-25-2009, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nienna

Well... I actually had some confidence in you until middle of Day 2 and now that you are still alive I ask myself "why are the wolves leaving Roa alive?" You seem like the type of player who, when innocent, is a detriment to the village. I don't understand why they would leave you alive and kill Brinn (who had only posted 3 times). I accept that they may want to frame you and I won't pass major judgment on you until I have time to do a thorough analysis (probably sometime later toDay).

I rarely get killed by wolves. The reason being is that around Day 3 everyone decides I've been alive too long and need to be killed. Brinn was probably killed for the same reason that any quiet person is killed (which is why I voted her as NG on Day 1). A quiet person leaves no trail.

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Besides that your voting yesterDay was really strange. You voted Lommy for Captain, Gwath as NG, and Legate as lynch. The lynch vote probably sticks out for me the most as Legate is one of the few people who I don't suspect, at all.

Not agreeing with you and being weird are not one in the same. I have very good reasons for suspecting Legate. You are free to read them. They are certainly better reasons than "bad feelings" or "weird behavior" that have been the reasons most people are voting on. I voted Lommy as captain because out of everyone, I am least suspicious of her. No one else has a good reason for suspecting her, either. I voted Gwath as NG for the same reason I voted Brinn- quiet people get killed because they leave no trail.

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You have also been handling the captain situation in a weird way. You say that you have no desire for the position but it seems as if you have been subtly hinting at it all game. Fea I also suspect because of her very quick vote for you for Captain. It seemed as if she was trying to lead 'her sheep' to vote you captain.

How is it weird to not want to risk a wolf having the power to control the lynch? I think the people who aren't considering it are not thinking of the consequences. I don't care to be captain. I only want the captain to change everyday.

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If you are so concerned about people not getting too much power then vote for no captain. That is an option. Also you were very quick today to give me a vote of no confidence. Do you have no confidence in me? Why?

I don't have a problem with someone having the ability to break ties or be protected at night. I do have a problem with someone who can control the lynch. My vote of no confidence has nothing to with you. Go back and actually read all of my posts about the captain role yesterday.

Loslote · 09-25-2009, 07:08 PM

I should be on more toDay, because it's the weekend.

My thoughts on (hopefully) everyone:

Fea - Pretty sure she's innocent.

Nienna - I don't think she's a wolf anymore. First Day posting was suspicious, but that's gone now.

Sally - she hasn't been on much, but I don't think she's guilty.

Kath - I think she's innocent.

Greenie - not sure. Might be a wolf, might not.

Nerwen - same as Greenie.

Roa - I think she's innocent, but she could be a wolf.

Lommy - I don't think she's a wolf, but she still might be.

Legate - Probably innocent.

Gwath - only just showed up. I don't have an opinion yet.

Kath · 09-26-2009, 11:50 AM

Mac was killed by the wolves. I must say I found this surprising. When Rikae had to drop out and Mac joined in her place I had sort of assumed that he must have some kind of role as otherwise Rikae would have just dropped out and left the game with fewer people. Because she felt it important to make sure someone took over, I just figured it meant she was something. Given the number of Hunters in this game it surprised me the wolves didn’t leave Mac be in case he was one.

Roa – look at those who defended Rune and voted Hakon as the wolves may have tried to help Rune make Captain. With three other wolves I think there are almost too many options though. Yes one might have defended Rune, but one might have been outright against him and one might have given a staunch defense of someone else and ignored Rune … it’s as good a place to start as any I just don’t think it will give you any very definitive answers. I do agree about having a new captain each Day. If the Captain is a wolf we definitely don’t want them having extra power, and even if they’re innocent there’s nothing to say that bad decisions wouldn’t be made. Analyses Boro. Good work, but I felt that Boro was being his typical ‘it’s Day 1, let’s play!’ self and so bits of poor reasoning or seemingly random actions were actually just that. He wasn’t trying yet. Analyses Legate – pretty much comes to the conclusion that he is suspicious. On reading through I can see many of her points. The seeming flip-flop on whether a captain should be allowed to gain more power or not. The going round in circles of reasoning (that’s why I always find Nog suspicious!). What she says about his dealings with Rune are interesting too. I would want to look at Legate again myself though rather than base any opinion on another’s analysis. That said I don’t feel Roa was twisting anything to her point. When she saw a reasonable point she allowed it to remain one. Ah I see why Roa is suspicious –she think Legate is trying to retain the captaincy. Not sure about that but I can see where she’s coming from. Analyses Greenie – interesting if she really did think one way for Hakon and the other for Rune if they did the same thing, though of course a lot can depend on knowing the person. We all know Rune is a bold player. I for one don’t know Hakon at all. Defends Lommy but maybe only because Legate was suspecting her.

Valier – turned out to be the Cobbler. I can see why Fea was suspicious of her. She said the posts were ‘synthetic’ I think, and that’s about the right word. Why mention Boro? As we now know Boro was innocent it seems like she’s trying to throw suspicion at him. None of the statements really end. ‘I must also say that I was quite surprised at Rune being a wolf.’ … because? Interesting that the Cobbler would want a powerful captain. I suppose whether wolf or innocent the captain could potentially cause chaos, always interesting to a cobbler.

Fea – suspects Valier. Votes Roa for speaking sense. Given that I agree about the captain issue I can understand this. I have just realised what I’ve just written about captains exactly echo’s what Fea said. Says she didn’t trust Legate but is now feeling better about him – I found the same thing. Very non committal. Says nice things about Nienna.

Legate – did no one else wonder about Mac’s role before he died? Legate seems to assume that Mac was a trailless kill, or perhaps had Ranger hinted (I think that’s what he’s getting at). On the side of actually letting a Captain have some powers. I can see the interest in seeing how the role would work but I think it’s too dangerous. Defends his reasoning. I can see his point, yes whatever a captain did s/he would have to answer for it the next Day, the trouble is that by that Day the damage would already have been done. Fairly sound defence here. Wants to look at Lottie and Valier as they voted Rune for captain. Starts to get a bit cross. A little early to be getting so defensive but he is a major figure right now so most people are focusing on him. Suspects Lommy for not flip flopping enough and being worried about him .Also seems too confident about Hakon being innocent. Takes himself out of the running for captain by voting Nienna.

Nienna – confused by Fea’s vote as she wants either to stick with a captain or not have one. I think it would be a shame to just not have one, having more people being voted for and a role that much of the discussion centres round has really opened things up I feel. But I still wouldn’t want to keep a captain long enough to give them that much power. Defends (ish) Legate and suspects Fea. Same point as me about doing own analysis not relying on someone elses. Analyses Nerwen (why?) and concludes she seems innocent. Thinks only an innocent should be captain and as she thinks Legate is the person she sees as most innocent he should stay captain. Fair reasoning, I just worry about the power. Thinks Valier and Lottie suspicious – again like everyone else I think. Thinks Valier bandwaggoned and has no substance.

Lottie – a list post but with nothing behind it. Voted Rune for captain because he seemed confident. I think that’s fairly good reasoning actually. If you’re going to have a captain who has the power to break ties etc you do want someone who will be involved and around at the deadline and who won’t waste the chance.

Sally – thinks Brinn is a wolf, just a feeling. Thinks Rune might have been trying to frame Valier so doesn’t want to vote for her. Also some suspicion of Lottie but again doesn’t want to lynch her because she’s new. Asks to be talked with. Interesting but I did talk with her and she came across as very innocent.

Nerwen – round in circles about how the wolves might be acting. Lists the votes to look for connections. Doesn’t really seem to go anywhere with that. By the way Nerwen, I did vote on Day 1. Analyses Mac and ends up thinking that it actually wasn’t a trailless kill but might be being used to try and push suspicion on people. I think it a little odd that she wanted to get a new lynch candidate in.

Brinn – now this wolf kill I do think was simply a trailless one. (Sorry, jumping to the next Day here a bit.) With the knowledge that she wouldn’t be around much I think it was an easy and somewhat mean kill. Said she would have suspected Rune the Day before, maybe but then it’s always easier to say that in hindsight. Thinks Lottie is a little suspicious but wants to leave her as she’s a newbie. Fair enough. Thinks Valier would not have communicated so much with Rune if also a wolf so won’t vote her. Votes Nerwen due to bad vibes. Not great reasoning but she was playing catch up.

Gwath – complains about people putting in lists to supplement their post count. Might have been a dig at Nerwen. Actually says what I’d have been thinking if around that Day, why not lynch Boro anyway and only lose one person rather than two. But then no one really knew what was going on with that anyway.

Lommy – I think there’s a little dig at Roa there. Thinks Legate is being too careful. On this occasion I disagree. Day 1 I didn’t like his playing style, but having read through his Day 2 posts I feel that they’re actually reasonable and well made points. Good reasons from Lommy for not wanting him to remain captain though. Again this assumption that Mac was a no trace kill. Thinks Valier suspicious. Says she may vote Roa for captain but worries that once she is captain no one will want her to stop being captain. Interesting idea actually, especially as there is a little contingent that would like to see a stable captain. Interesting use of the night guard role. Lottie and Valier suspicious, same reasons as most others.

Greenie – takes Legate’s reasoning for her own about walking the line on Rune. I mean fair enough, yes you could want someone to just be in the village without wanting them to be captain. Odd. Says she’d be fine with keeping Legate as captain but also says that she’s not convinced about seeing a captain with full powers. Yet surely if Legate stayed captain that Day he’d have ended up with full powers? Still doesn’t actually answer about that even when asked directly. Bit worried about Lottie. Thinks she personally wouldn’t have found Valier suspicious but thanks to everyone else now does. Worried about Roa and Lommy.

Captain:
Fea – Roa
Brinn – Roa
Lommy – Roa
Nienna – Legate
Sally – Nienna
Roa – Lommy
Nerwen - Nienna
Greenie – Nienna
Valier – Legate
Legate - Nienna

Night guard:
Brinn – Kath
Lommy – Nerwen
Fea – Lommy
Sally – Kath
Nienna – Nerwen
Roa - Gwath
Nerwen - sally
Valier – Lommy
Greenie – Kath
Legate – Nerwen
Gwath - Lommy

Lynch:
Brinn – Nerwen
Lommy – Valier
Roa – Legate
Nienna – Valier
Nerwen - Lottie
Valier – Lottie
Sally – Lottie
Greenie – Valier

Right, off to get some food now. Will return and have a (quick!) look at toDay and then vote and go!

09-24-2009, 05:01 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Day2 The Rangers buried their dead with heavy hearts and packed their backpacks despite the blizzard. They were ready to continue their endless-seeming mission through the white storm to reach the Shire in time to prevent the wolves to wreak havoc on them. How impossible that seemed with the problems of their own to be sorted out! “Don’t you think someone should need to know about our ordeal back there?” Boro called the others over the howling wind. “I could try to reach Bree! I know the way there the best of us!” The others halted. “If you feel it must be you, then you go” Legate said matter of factly. “But how come you’d just sneak away? Shouldn’t we take tougher measures on you actually?” Gwath yelled. “Why do you say that? It’s a tough quest to do all alone.” Nerwen reacted. “Why would I like to sneak away if I was a wolf?” Boro answered somewhat irritated. “Well, that’s not logically proven stuff you come forwards with comrade… you might be arguing in circles…” Roa muttered. “If he wishes to go, then he goes.” Legate snapped to Roa. “He does what he sees fit and we others continue, with him or without him. That's the Captain's words.” It was clear the two were not in the best of terms, not the least as during the morning hours it seemed they were the top contestants to be the Captain. The pragmatic Rangers turned that rivalry off by choosing Nienna as their new Captain. But who would they lynch toDay… that was a question they all went through in their minds while pushing through the storm that seemed to grow as the day draw nearer to the end. That day the weather really pressed them and they soon realised they would not be able to travel very far. There was no good shelter for resting within miles and they knew it. Finally they found a few mounds that were high enough to hide behind from the icy wind and where they could light some fires that had even slight chances of burning. Even if that hope soon turned out to be a fool’s hope. But they had to make a choice – and as long as they all sat around the fire it kept burning as the mass of men kept the wind outside the lonely circle of light in the middle of the storming moors. It ended up with Loslote and Valier being the ones to choose from. “So as I’m not your Captain anymore it’s up to you Nienna to decide who…” Legate said calmly. Nienna looked at Legate and then at the two pierced by the stare of all the other Rangers, everyone of them thinking how it would turn out this time. “It will be Valier… give him a knife to be an honourable Ranger who faces the distrust of his companions.” Nienna finally ordered. Valier looked scared but also annoyed. “Wait a minute! You didn’t give me even one chance to do anything! You guys call this fair? Once I’m in this you didn’t even give me one try?” Valier denied the knife handed to him and looked at the others challengingly. “Knives…” He spat on the snow with disgust in his face and draw his sword. “There’s only one way to go for a Ranger… and that is…” He set the blade into the snow blade upwards and leaned lightly on it. The others held their breath in honouring the composure of their brother. “… like this!” With that Valier threw the sword from the blade towards those nearest to him and kicked the fire down leaping away from the same footing. “Catch him!” Nienna yelled and drew his bow. “He’s running that way, quick after him!” Lommy called and pointed to the direction while reaching for his bow with the other hand. Greenie had leapt after Valier already and produced his knife. “So a knife is not good enough for you traitor? Try this!” With that Greenie threw his knife after the shape that was trying to evade them into the darkness. A loud cry was heard when the knife landed on Valier’s back. Two bows rang at the same time and before he fell down two arrows pierced him to finalise his fate. The Rangers closed up on him carefully their weapons ready for any werewolf-tricksery, but there was none. Valier laid face down in the snow, a knife and two arrows in his back. Suddenly his head moved a bit. "The wolves should... no... they will... prevail..." Those were the last words of Valier the Traitor. The Living: Fea Nienna Sally Kath Loslote Greenie Nerwen Roa Lommy Legate Gwath Brinn The Dead: Nogrod (mod) - turned into a werewolf and butchered on N1. Hakon (The Master Hunter) - stuck dead on D1. Rune (Werewolf) - killed from the sword of the Master Hunter at the end of D1. Macalaure (The Berserk Hunter) - eaten alive by the werewolves on N2. Inzil (Ordinary Innocent) - decapitated by the Berserk Hunter on N2. Boro (Ordinary Innocent) - left to Bree to infor others about the Company's tough fate on D2. Valier (The Night-Traitor aka. The Cobbler) - killed by the Rangers while trying to flee on D2. It's Night3 now. Hush... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 09-24-2009 at 05:05 PM.

09-25-2009, 04:00 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Night 3 At places the snow had piled up in drifts as high as up to a man’s waist. The Rangers dug individual holes into these drifts to make the snow keep them covered and warm. There was no need for five people staying up in an open place like this. The wolves could not make their mischief in secret like they had done the Night before in the shadows of the trees. And everyone was dead-tired so the more people could sleep the coming Night the better. So only Nienna, Sally and Kath stayed by the fire watching over the camp – if one could call it a camp. It was more like “nine men living in makeshift hobbitholes” as Fea had put it before crawling into his hole in the snow. The wind showed no sign of getting weaker, nor the snowfall of ceasing. And the Night went on. With the first shades of light increasing the three decided to wake the others. They should use all the sparse daylight they had. “Rise and shine! We’re leaving in twenty minutes!” Nienna called walking around. “Did you say “shine”?” Lommy asked cynically after pulling his head out from the hole and getting the biting wind to his face. “I wouldn’t take this for a Day if I hadn’t your assurances… though I’m still wavering between that and the proof of my own eyes.” Gwath grumbled. “Don’t be sulky mates, nothing happened during the Night!” Sally answered cheerfully. “Just grin a bit softer!” “There was no sound, no movement during the Night.” Kath confirmed. “Blessed be the Valar." Roa said and took his backpack "Lets’ get on with it then.” only to suddenly freeze motionless. “What is it Roa?” Nienna asked passing him by. “Have you seen Brinn?” Roa asked. Nienna turned to look at Brinn’s hole. His sack and his weapons were there but it seemed there was nothing else. “Wait, there’s a tunnel under the drift here!” Nerwen shouted suddenly stepping on it less than ten meters away from Brinn’s hole. “Let’s follow it!” Legate called and started kicking the snow from around the place where Nerwen had bumbed into the tunnel. After a few minutes of slowly following the tunnel in the blizzard they finally saw an odd shape in the drift in front of them. Loslote was the first one to spot it and he ran forwards fighting the snow that had piled almost up to his chest. After throwing the snow around with his bare hands he finally yelled “It’s Brinn! …and he’s… naked…” Greenie had followed in his trails and tried frantically to find a pulse. The other Rangers fought their way slowly around the body of their mate. After a minute or two of painful silence Greenie shook his head and turned towards the others. “He’s dead. Frozen to death.” ~~ The Living:* Fea Nienna Sally Kath Loslote Greenie Nerwen Roa Lommy Legate Gwath The Dead: Nogrod (mod) - turned into a werewolf and butchered on N1. Hakon (The Master Hunter) - stuck dead on D1. Rune (Werewolf) - killed from the sword of the Master Hunter at the end of D1. Macalaure (The Berserk Hunter) - eaten alive by the werewolves on N2. Inzil (Ordinary Innocent) - decapitated by the Berserk Hunter on N2. Boro (Ordinary Innocent) - left to Bree to inform others about the Company's tough fate on D2. (killed by the wolves travelling alone in the blizzard) Valier (The Night-Traitor aka. The Cobbler) - killed by the Rangers while trying to flee on D2. Brinn (Ordinary Innocent) – stunned, dragged through a tunnel, stripped naked and left to froze to death on N3. It's Day 3 now. It's your turn... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

09-25-2009, 04:11 PM	#3
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	I'm only on for this moment. Nienna, why Valier and not Loslote? Also, why sally? It's prudent to look at the people who voted for Valier, because the wolves would not have known her role, and would only know her as an innocent. Also, once again, I call for a vote of no confidence in Nienna. Again, it's better to not allow anyone to have the full power of a captain. Even if you think they're innocent, the only way to know for sure is if you're a wolf. So without a known innocent to fill the position, we need to keep rotating for the safety of the village. It's too great a risk. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen Last edited by Roa_Aoife; 09-25-2009 at 04:12 PM. Reason: formatting

09-25-2009, 04:24 PM	#5
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Okay, so I remembered last night just as Grey's started that I'd forgotten to cast a lynch vote. For what it's worth, I intended to carry out my threat to vote for Valier. I had no solid evidence, because I'm being a lazy sack of lard this game and don't feel like doing research to support my intuition. So it was suspicion based on gut instinct of what seems sincere and what seems synthetic. You'll note that I've been on her case for a while for seeming like a falsie. But since I forgot to vote, that barely matters... In theory I'll be around for much of toDay. In theory. No guarantees. My life has turned surprisingly busy. __________________ peace Last edited by Feanor of the Peredhil; 09-25-2009 at 04:25 PM. Reason: x'd with Nienna

09-25-2009, 07:08 PM	#9
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	I should be on more toDay, because it's the weekend. My thoughts on (hopefully) everyone: Fea - Pretty sure she's innocent. Nienna - I don't think she's a wolf anymore. First Day posting was suspicious, but that's gone now. Sally - she hasn't been on much, but I don't think she's guilty. Kath - I think she's innocent. Greenie - not sure. Might be a wolf, might not. Nerwen - same as Greenie. Roa - I think she's innocent, but she could be a wolf. Lommy - I don't think she's a wolf, but she still might be. Legate - Probably innocent. Gwath - only just showed up. I don't have an opinion yet. __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

09-26-2009, 11:50 AM	#10
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Mac was killed by the wolves. I must say I found this surprising. When Rikae had to drop out and Mac joined in her place I had sort of assumed that he must have some kind of role as otherwise Rikae would have just dropped out and left the game with fewer people. Because she felt it important to make sure someone took over, I just figured it meant she was something. Given the number of Hunters in this game it surprised me the wolves didn’t leave Mac be in case he was one. Roa – look at those who defended Rune and voted Hakon as the wolves may have tried to help Rune make Captain. With three other wolves I think there are almost too many options though. Yes one might have defended Rune, but one might have been outright against him and one might have given a staunch defense of someone else and ignored Rune … it’s as good a place to start as any I just don’t think it will give you any very definitive answers. I do agree about having a new captain each Day. If the Captain is a wolf we definitely don’t want them having extra power, and even if they’re innocent there’s nothing to say that bad decisions wouldn’t be made. Analyses Boro. Good work, but I felt that Boro was being his typical ‘it’s Day 1, let’s play!’ self and so bits of poor reasoning or seemingly random actions were actually just that. He wasn’t trying yet. Analyses Legate – pretty much comes to the conclusion that he is suspicious. On reading through I can see many of her points. The seeming flip-flop on whether a captain should be allowed to gain more power or not. The going round in circles of reasoning (that’s why I always find Nog suspicious!). What she says about his dealings with Rune are interesting too. I would want to look at Legate again myself though rather than base any opinion on another’s analysis. That said I don’t feel Roa was twisting anything to her point. When she saw a reasonable point she allowed it to remain one. Ah I see why Roa is suspicious –she think Legate is trying to retain the captaincy. Not sure about that but I can see where she’s coming from. Analyses Greenie – interesting if she really did think one way for Hakon and the other for Rune if they did the same thing, though of course a lot can depend on knowing the person. We all know Rune is a bold player. I for one don’t know Hakon at all. Defends Lommy but maybe only because Legate was suspecting her. Valier – turned out to be the Cobbler. I can see why Fea was suspicious of her. She said the posts were ‘synthetic’ I think, and that’s about the right word. Why mention Boro? As we now know Boro was innocent it seems like she’s trying to throw suspicion at him. None of the statements really end. ‘I must also say that I was quite surprised at Rune being a wolf.’ … because? Interesting that the Cobbler would want a powerful captain. I suppose whether wolf or innocent the captain could potentially cause chaos, always interesting to a cobbler. Fea – suspects Valier. Votes Roa for speaking sense. Given that I agree about the captain issue I can understand this. I have just realised what I’ve just written about captains exactly echo’s what Fea said. Says she didn’t trust Legate but is now feeling better about him – I found the same thing. Very non committal. Says nice things about Nienna. Legate – did no one else wonder about Mac’s role before he died? Legate seems to assume that Mac was a trailless kill, or perhaps had Ranger hinted (I think that’s what he’s getting at). On the side of actually letting a Captain have some powers. I can see the interest in seeing how the role would work but I think it’s too dangerous. Defends his reasoning. I can see his point, yes whatever a captain did s/he would have to answer for it the next Day, the trouble is that by that Day the damage would already have been done. Fairly sound defence here. Wants to look at Lottie and Valier as they voted Rune for captain. Starts to get a bit cross. A little early to be getting so defensive but he is a major figure right now so most people are focusing on him. Suspects Lommy for not flip flopping enough and being worried about him .Also seems too confident about Hakon being innocent. Takes himself out of the running for captain by voting Nienna. Nienna – confused by Fea’s vote as she wants either to stick with a captain or not have one. I think it would be a shame to just not have one, having more people being voted for and a role that much of the discussion centres round has really opened things up I feel. But I still wouldn’t want to keep a captain long enough to give them that much power. Defends (ish) Legate and suspects Fea. Same point as me about doing own analysis not relying on someone elses. Analyses Nerwen (why?) and concludes she seems innocent. Thinks only an innocent should be captain and as she thinks Legate is the person she sees as most innocent he should stay captain. Fair reasoning, I just worry about the power. Thinks Valier and Lottie suspicious – again like everyone else I think. Thinks Valier bandwaggoned and has no substance. Lottie – a list post but with nothing behind it. Voted Rune for captain because he seemed confident. I think that’s fairly good reasoning actually. If you’re going to have a captain who has the power to break ties etc you do want someone who will be involved and around at the deadline and who won’t waste the chance. Sally – thinks Brinn is a wolf, just a feeling. Thinks Rune might have been trying to frame Valier so doesn’t want to vote for her. Also some suspicion of Lottie but again doesn’t want to lynch her because she’s new. Asks to be talked with. Interesting but I did talk with her and she came across as very innocent. Nerwen – round in circles about how the wolves might be acting. Lists the votes to look for connections. Doesn’t really seem to go anywhere with that. By the way Nerwen, I did vote on Day 1. Analyses Mac and ends up thinking that it actually wasn’t a trailless kill but might be being used to try and push suspicion on people. I think it a little odd that she wanted to get a new lynch candidate in. Brinn – now this wolf kill I do think was simply a trailless one. (Sorry, jumping to the next Day here a bit.) With the knowledge that she wouldn’t be around much I think it was an easy and somewhat mean kill. Said she would have suspected Rune the Day before, maybe but then it’s always easier to say that in hindsight. Thinks Lottie is a little suspicious but wants to leave her as she’s a newbie. Fair enough. Thinks Valier would not have communicated so much with Rune if also a wolf so won’t vote her. Votes Nerwen due to bad vibes. Not great reasoning but she was playing catch up. Gwath – complains about people putting in lists to supplement their post count. Might have been a dig at Nerwen. Actually says what I’d have been thinking if around that Day, why not lynch Boro anyway and only lose one person rather than two. But then no one really knew what was going on with that anyway. Lommy – I think there’s a little dig at Roa there. Thinks Legate is being too careful. On this occasion I disagree. Day 1 I didn’t like his playing style, but having read through his Day 2 posts I feel that they’re actually reasonable and well made points. Good reasons from Lommy for not wanting him to remain captain though. Again this assumption that Mac was a no trace kill. Thinks Valier suspicious. Says she may vote Roa for captain but worries that once she is captain no one will want her to stop being captain. Interesting idea actually, especially as there is a little contingent that would like to see a stable captain. Interesting use of the night guard role. Lottie and Valier suspicious, same reasons as most others. Greenie – takes Legate’s reasoning for her own about walking the line on Rune. I mean fair enough, yes you could want someone to just be in the village without wanting them to be captain. Odd. Says she’d be fine with keeping Legate as captain but also says that she’s not convinced about seeing a captain with full powers. Yet surely if Legate stayed captain that Day he’d have ended up with full powers? Still doesn’t actually answer about that even when asked directly. Bit worried about Lottie. Thinks she personally wouldn’t have found Valier suspicious but thanks to everyone else now does. Worried about Roa and Lommy. Captain: Fea – Roa Brinn – Roa Lommy – Roa Nienna – Legate Sally – Nienna Roa – Lommy Nerwen - Nienna Greenie – Nienna Valier – Legate Legate - Nienna Night guard: Brinn – Kath Lommy – Nerwen Fea – Lommy Sally – Kath Nienna – Nerwen Roa - Gwath Nerwen - sally Valier – Lommy Greenie – Kath Legate – Nerwen Gwath - Lommy Lynch: Brinn – Nerwen Lommy – Valier Roa – Legate Nienna – Valier Nerwen - Lottie Valier – Lottie Sally – Lottie Greenie – Valier Right, off to get some food now. Will return and have a (quick!) look at toDay and then vote and go!