Admin thread for T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rune Son of Bjarne · 09-22-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

I can feel your pain Rune and I'm quite unhappy you were killed (just as a personal note - as a mod I try to be as balanced and fair I can).

But sure you wouldn't have cancelled the lynching of Hakon without knowing he was after you - and being the Master-Hunter? So "wisdom of late" is it?

And the next one behind you two were two votes away so you wouldn't even had a licence to get anyone else lynched.

Anyway the Captain was actually produced at the same moment as the lynch was declared so the ability to cancel a lynching factually concerns only those Captains that are Captains before and after the DL at the end of the Day. Just imagine the complexity of the execution and rulings if that were not so...

All this does is show that there was, well maybe not a flaw in the rules, but atleast a lack of information in them.

I should probably be careful what I say about what I would and wouldn't have done, as it could be analysed and is therefor better saved for after the game. Anyways I will say that I did consider the option of canceling the lynch if I got the chance. (I can always elaborate more after the game)

Nogrod · 09-23-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

All this does is show that there was, well maybe not a flaw in the rules, but atleast a lack of information in them.

You're absolutely right and I do apologise. My fault.

There seems to be few things I have thought of by myself but haven't voiced out clearly enough in the rules (partly due to the fact that the last day before the game started ended up being more hectic in RL terms than I expected). I'll try to figure out if there are still ones that haven't been explained.

But I'll open this one up first.

The idea is that to gain the power to cancel lynchings or change the lynchee the Captain should have gained the trust of the people; being the Captain for two Days in a row (=being elected the Day before and not sacked / voted out on the next) would be just that.

Yes, I was actually after some leadership with the Captain-role - whoever takes it. And few soldiers follow tough rulings of a Captain they don't value highly enough. That's the kind of realistic agenda behind it.

The newly appointed Captain would only have power over a case of a vote-tie. Without that power the Captain would only be one who is protected during the Night added with some Night-talker abilities - so a paper-leader.

So even a newly chosen Captain has some power but only a "trusted" Captain can yield real power (cancelling the lynch altogether, changing the lynchee to someone having one vote less than the one getting lynched otherwise).

Roa_Aoife · 09-23-2009, 09:28 AM

You may have received a message that I posted on the game thread. I was using the reply box for formatting purposes on an analysis I was doing and accidentally hit "Submit reply." I have deleted the post. Please don't mod fire me.

Nogrod · 09-23-2009, 03:51 PM

Okay.

The narration for Day1 is finally at place and the one for Night2 is coming soon (in time anyway). Sorry. I just had a hectic day and had not too much time to do these. It will be better on the next days as my RL timetable looks easier.

To answer the queries (Nerwen in the thread and Roa here): there will be no modfire in this game (it reads in the rules).

The only exception would be that someone was caught "red-handed" violating the basic rules that form the athmosphere of general trust and goodwill on the part of the players aka. having conversations about the game with confidential information about the roles done outside the game etc...

I discourage you to talk about the game in msn or RL (or wherever) in general, even with your best mates as long as you both are alive. I know it's hard. But one might accidentally slip something and for that reason... try to stay calm.

But the real offence would be to talk about your own roles.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 09-23-2009, 03:59 PM

Yeah, seriously, just don't talk about the game at all.

I nearly smacked Stick when she and Lari were staying with Nienna and me and Stick was musing over which players sent her PMs and which just sent them to Lari.

"Fea doesn't send me PMs, she just messages me on MSN."

"Yeah," I said, looking worriedly at Nienna, glaring at Stick, and quickly typing 'Fail STICK!!!' to Lari. "It's hard, you know, when you can't talk to anybody, so a lot of people send PMs to the mods just so that they can have an audience to their thoughts."

Ooh, I glared at Stick... Way to tell Nienna I had a role that required Nightly PMversations with the mod!

So yes. Slips happen, and you should just avoid all game-discussion until all y'all are dead.

/anecdote

Boromir88 · 09-23-2009, 06:02 PM

I guess since I assume Nog is sleeping now, and I don't know when he will get my message. It's best if I just inform ye all, I need to leave the group of Rangers. I thought I could squeeze in another game, but that aint happening, there's too much going on. I requested to be killed at the end of the Day, so do with me what you will.

satansaloser2005 · 09-23-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

I guess since I assume Nog is sleeping now, and I don't know when he will get my message. It's best if I just inform ye all, I need to leave the group of Rangers. I thought I could squeeze in another game, but that aint happening, there's too much going on. I requested to be killed at the end of the Day, so do with me what you will.

09-23-2009, 09:28 AM	#3
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	You may have received a message that I posted on the game thread. I was using the reply box for formatting purposes on an analysis I was doing and accidentally hit "Submit reply." I have deleted the post. Please don't mod fire me. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

09-23-2009, 03:51 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Okay. The narration for Day1 is finally at place and the one for Night2 is coming soon (in time anyway). Sorry. I just had a hectic day and had not too much time to do these. It will be better on the next days as my RL timetable looks easier. To answer the queries (Nerwen in the thread and Roa here): there will be no modfire in this game (it reads in the rules). The only exception would be that someone was caught "red-handed" violating the basic rules that form the athmosphere of general trust and goodwill on the part of the players aka. having conversations about the game with confidential information about the roles done outside the game etc... I discourage you to talk about the game in msn or RL (or wherever) in general, even with your best mates as long as you both are alive. I know it's hard. But one might accidentally slip something and for that reason... try to stay calm. But the real offence would be to talk about your own roles. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

09-23-2009, 03:59 PM	#5
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Yeah, seriously, just don't talk about the game at all. I nearly smacked Stick when she and Lari were staying with Nienna and me and Stick was musing over which players sent her PMs and which just sent them to Lari. "Fea doesn't send me PMs, she just messages me on MSN." "Yeah," I said, looking worriedly at Nienna, glaring at Stick, and quickly typing 'Fail STICK!!!' to Lari. "It's hard, you know, when you can't talk to anybody, so a lot of people send PMs to the mods just so that they can have an audience to their thoughts." Ooh, I glared at Stick... Way to tell Nienna I had a role that required Nightly PMversations with the mod! So yes. Slips happen, and you should just avoid all game-discussion until all y'all are dead. /anecdote __________________ peace

09-23-2009, 06:02 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	I guess since I assume Nog is sleeping now, and I don't know when he will get my message. It's best if I just inform ye all, I need to leave the group of Rangers. I thought I could squeeze in another game, but that aint happening, there's too much going on. I requested to be killed at the end of the Day, so do with me what you will. __________________ Fenris Penguin