T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter

[Boromir88]

++Lynch Lommy

Because I'm not acting any differently than my normal ordo self, at least I haven't in my own head, besides being probably more migraine-causing instead of a common headache. So, why has your Boro-radar come up differently? Time to take it to the shop.

Also, she keeps restating my suspiciousness, yet not wanting to lynch me...her last post was I think the 3rd time in the last hour. Sorry Loms that's not looking like normal flip-flopping, what are you trying to gain from repeatedly stating not lynching me today but still not being my normal innocent self?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

++Lynch Lommy

Well ACTUALLY...

This had crossed my mind, but I would not probably thought of doing it unless I saw this. Why not! Could be the best suspect of all those who appeared as candidates yet.

Because... there is something weird about her toDay. And by weird, I indeed mean suspicious.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Gosh, who's for NG then? If Brinn is secure, I might try to vote for somebody for the second place... will check... then vote...

[Nogrod]

Day1 votes and what it seems to be...

Captaincy:
Boro -> Rune
Sally -> Legate
Greenie -> Legate
Nerwen -> Roa
Valier -> Rune
Loslote -> Rune
Roa -> Legate
Rune -> Rune
Fea -> Roa
Inzil -> Rune (5)
Nienna -> Legate
Lommy -> Roa (3)
(Mac -> Kath)
Hakon -> Legate (5)

NG:
Boro -> Inzil
Sally -> Valier
Inzil -> Boro
Roa -> Brinn
Nerwen -> Kath
Loslote -> Boro (2)
Rune -> Valier
Valier -> Roa
Fea -> Nienna
Nienna -> Roa (2)
Lommy -> Valier (3)
(Mac -> Brinn)
Hakon -> Brinn (2)
Mac -> Kath (2)
Legate -> Nienna (2)

Lynch:
Rune -> Legate
Roa -> Rune
Nerwen -> Boro
Fea -> Hakon
Sally -> Rune
Nienna -> Rune
Loslote -> Nienna
Greenie -> Hakon
Valier -> Loslote
Inzil -> Hakon (3)
Hakon -> Rune (4)
Boro -> Lommy

[Macalaure]

++Roa for captain

++Hakon

Explanations tomorrow.

edit: And I just realized I screwed up with my Brinn-retraction.

[Nerwen]

So, I've tabled the votes for comparision purposes

Known innocents are in italics, known wolves are underlined.

BORO
Guard: Inzil
Captain: Rune
Lynch: Lommy

SALLY
Guard: Valier
Captain: Legate
Lynch: Rune

GREENIE
Guard: No-one
Captain: Legate
Lynch: Hakon

INZIL (ORDO)
Guard: Boro
Captain: Rune
Lynch: Hakon

ROA
Guard: Brinn
Captain: Legate
Lynch: Rune

NERWEN
Guard: Kath
Captain: Roa
Lynch: Boro

LOSLOTE
Guard: Boro
Captain: Rune
Lynch: Nienna

RUNE (WEREWOLF)
Guard: Valier
Captain: Himself!
Lynch: Legate

VALIER
Guard: Roa
Captain: Rune
Lynch: Loslote

FEA
Guard: Nienna
Captain: Roa
Lynch: Hakon

NIENNA
Guard: Roa
Captain: Legate
Lynch: Rune

LOMMY
Guard: Valier
Captain: Roa
Lynch: Kath

HAKON (MASTER HUNTER)
Guard: Brinn
Captain: Legate
Lynch: Rune

MAC (BERSERK HUNTER)
Guard: Kath (switched from earlier vote for Brinn)
Captain: Roa (switched from earlier vote for Kath)
Lynch: Hakon

LEGATE
Guard: Nienna
Captain: No-one
Lynch: Lommy

BRINNIEL
Didn't vote.

KATH
Didn't vote.

GWATHAGOR
Didn't vote.


All that voting to do and only two missed votes on Day One? EDIT:Wrong. Brinn didn't vote. EDIT2: Or Kath, or Gwath.

Hmmn... That was a lot of work, but I'm not sure how much can be deduced from it.

Of the living Rune-for-Captain voters (Loslote, Boro, Valier)–

One (Loslote) voted to Guard another (Boro).

One (Valier) voted to lynch another (Loslote). NB: This was the only vote cast on Loslote.

One (Valier) was guard-voted by Rune (wolf).

So, yes, there are quite a lot of connections between them– on the other hand Boro and Inzi would now appear strongly connected were the latter still alive.

EDIT:X'd with Brinn... who I'd forgotten about.
EDIT2:Put in entries for the non-voters.

[Nerwen]

Hmmn. I have no opinion on Brinn so far– I'd semi-forgotten she was playing– but I really don't like being voted for something as vague as "bad vibes".

[Gwathagor]

I just got up to date on toDay's posting. Nothing stands out to me at this point, but I'll be back in about 12 hours, at which point maybe I'll try digging a little deeper. Maybe. At least I'm not posting B.S. lists yet to fill out my post count.

[Nerwen]

The Collected Works of Macalaure

#197

Originally Posted by Macalaure

The nightguards basically work as village-elected ranger protections, so I think it would make most sense to vote for two people who are likely to be killed during the first night. This means we can rule out Loslote, Valier, and Roa, since they're either new or haven't played in a long time, so it wouldn't be very nice for them to be killed right away. Although there are exceptions, the most common Night2-kills are either trailless (most likely), or with the intention to get rid of a dangerous opponent early. The latter is very difficult to predict for us, without knowledge of the wolves' identity, but the former we have a bit of a chance. Villagers who are mostly unhelpful shouldn't be protected, though - why protect someone who has a fair chance of becoming a problem to us? People who appear trailless to us (though, admittedly, other people might look trailless to the wolves), but are helpful (or promise to become helpful later) should be our guards.

On Day1, I would suggest a similar strategy for the captain, with the most suspicious individuals excepted. We don’t necessarily need the most innocent or most helpful or most talkative person in this role (not yet at any rate). Just someone who knows what he’s doing.

Candidates, in my opinion, are: Inzil, Kath, Gwath, Brinn, and Fea. (Nienna and Sally belong in there, too, but I find them suspicious.)

I'm tending towards Kath for captain, Brinn for guard.

Wolves:
I have barely an idea. My only real opinion of anyone is that Rune is neither wolf nor gifted. A wolf wouldn’t be so obvious, a gifted not so eager to be something special. Cobbler or ordo.
This is the reason, why Sally’s bandwaggon vote on Roa’s vote for him looks suspicious to me. Nienna’s vote looks as bad, and she did several things that make my radar ping badly, but by now I know from experience that that’s what she does when she’s innocent. So Sally ranks higher right now.


I don’t understand why it’s a problem if the same person is captain and lynched. The captain has the power to cancel the lynch, doesn’t he? Problem solved. But if the mod rules it otherwise, ok.

#202 [Replying to Roa; subject is Runewolf]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I haven't played with him in a long time, so I wouldn't vote for him on Day1 just because there's a chance he's the cobbler. I absolutely do not endorse him for captaincy either, though.

#213
Votes Kath for Captain, Brinn for NG.

#220

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Rune for captain, I'm not sure about that. Legate or Roa aren't my ideal choices either, but ok.
Valier or Roa for guard is a bad idea, since they are most likely not targets anyway. Boro is not much better. Out of the people who have guard-votes, I'd prefer Brinn, Kath, or Inzil.
Rune for lynch is a bad idea, too. Hakon, well, not sure how suspicious he is, but he hasn't been helpful so far, so it would at least not be the worst loss.

Not too happy with your choices so far, village.

#234
Says he doesn't think Rune is a wolf.

#237
Asks if Captain and NG votes are retractable.

#243
Retracts votes for Brinn and Kath, says he will vote for either Roa or Legate as Captain.

Votes to guard Kath.

Says he might lynch Hakon, but would lynch Sally or Nienna if there was more support for it.

#252

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I agree that Lommy's comments about Boro are a bit strange, but... why would wolf-Lommy make them? Why try to grab the attention of such a vocal player needlessly? Boro is not really a strong lynch candidate.

#259

Originally Posted by Macalaure

++Roa for captain

++Hakon

Explanations tomorrow.

So– here's Mac's recontructed suspicion list:

Suspicious: Sally, Nienna, Hakon.

Neutral: Boro, Fea, Valier, Boro, Lommy, Gwath, Inzil.

Innocent: Kath, Brinn, Roa, Legate, Rune.

(Didn't mention: Nerwen, Greenie, Loslote.)

Somebody earlier toDay called this a "no-trace" kill, but as you see it's anything but, except in the general sense that it points so many ways it arguably points nowhere all that strongly. The main thing it does is, obviously, make Sally and Nienna look bad and Kat, Brinn, Roa and Legate look good.

Considering his defence of a known wolf, though, I'm rather surprised the wolves didn't keep him alive and try to frame him.

EDIT:X'd with Gwath.
EDIT2:Added "didn't mention category to list.
EDIT3:fixed typo
EDIT:Added italics.