T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nienna · 09-22-2009, 01:38 PM

Eek! Sorry. *is fixed*

Nienna · 09-22-2009, 01:44 PM

As he is being the most suspicious of everyone:

++ Rune

I do not want Rune to be captain... I think today is the most important time for wolves who want to be captain as we have to vote one in that he can be playing very bold in hopes that people would think a wolf wouldn't be so bold.

++Captain Legate

He is seeming innocent for me and making some good points and I really don't want Rune as captain.

++NG Roa

I'd like to keep her around for a while. She's making good posts and analysis and her being able to talk to someone else might be good.

Valier · 09-22-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nienna

He is seeming innocent for me and making some good points and I really don't want Rune as captain.

You know you don't need to just follow the crowd (which to me it seems your doing) You say that Legate seems innocent to you and has made good points, but so have others.
To me your votes all seem bandwagonish.... all your reasons are what other people have said. Seems to me like a wolf scrambling to vote someone safe.
I've done it before as a wolf on day one. I'm not sure, but I'm getting a bad vibe from you Nienna

Loslote · 09-22-2009, 02:00 PM

From what I've seen of Nienna, it looks like she's making her decisions and then looking for support, rather than looking for support and then making decisions. I'm a bit suspicious of that. If she was a wolf, she might be trying to frame someone and trying to find a reason for it.

Nogrod · 09-22-2009, 02:00 PM

Oops...

I hadn't thought you would like to both lynch and make a Captain out of a same person.

How bad of me...

So here's the rule if that kind of situation comes real.

If the same person has been voted as the lynchee and as the Captain, the fate s/he has more votes for will be the decisive factor (eg. whichever decision is called for by more people).

If that person has as many votes to both "positions" the difference between that person and the next one down the line decides the outcome (fex. if people wish to lynch X and the next lynchee is two votes down - and with Captaincy-vote there is only one vote difference to the next contender = lynch, etc.).

If even that is even, then it is the relative number of people voting vs. the support for X to be dealt with either giving a captaincy or lynching (in case not all make all the votes which is possible if not desirable).

If even those numbers are the same it will be decided on which vote was given the last (kind of creates the last minute feeling by those not voting for the person and thus turns them towards the last-voiced vote...

EDIT: The same rules apply to someone being voted the NG and the lynchee...

Heh, I knew I would have to fill in some details...

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Originally Posted by Lommy

PS. Nogrod! What if the same person is elected to be both Captain and Night Guard? Will the Night Guard title just pass on to the person with the third most NG votes?

The Captaincy takes precedence so we'll just pick the next one from the line to be the NG...

Roa_Aoife · 09-22-2009, 02:08 PM

Back!

Loslote, just because you don't think someone is a wolf doesn't mean they should then be captain. Why did you pick those two for captain and NG?

I'm glad to see people are being more vocal with their ideas and suspicions. I t makes me happy.

If we have a captain tomorrow (and I'm not saying we will) I do agree that they should be changed regularly.

I'm going to see what I've missed.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-22-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

If we have a captain tomorrow (and I'm not saying we will) I do agree that they should be changed regularly.

I would agree. Although of course, if we stumbled upon some really good foolproof Captain, we could keep him (but that's pure theory, I don't know how it would happen - but maybe if it was to be really late in the game...). I at least think, in contrary to Valier, that we should always have Captain. (Well, let's see how it works, but...) I mean, it's importantly a tool to protect several people from the WWs, so that's a great asset.

Roa_Aoife · 09-22-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Valier

You know you don't need to just follow the crowd (which to me it seems your doing)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote

From what I've seen of Nienna, it looks like she's making her decisions and then looking for support, rather than looking for support and then making decisions.

I don't see where this came from. But I don't like how Valier made the statement and Loslote went with it. It may just be newbie jitters, but he(she?) seems intelligent to me, so it gives me pause.

Roa_Aoife · 09-22-2009, 02:17 PM

Also: Lommy! YAY!

Valier · 09-22-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa

I don't see where this came from. But I don't like how Valier made the statement and Loslote went with it. It may just be newbie jitters, but he(she?) seems intelligent to me, so it gives me pause.

Are you refering to why I thought this of Nienna? If so I just thought that her post #181 was really weird to me and put up my wolfradar a bit.

But I do agree with you Roa as soon as I read Loslote's post about Nienna it made me pause as well.
Perhaps another wolf jumping on my suspision of Nienna to make themselves look good....hmmm not sure, little beep on the wolfradar for Loslote in my books.

Boromir88 · 09-22-2009, 02:30 PM

On one hand people are saying it was a minor issue between Fea and me, but on the other hand, it was blown out to be something major?

Well, I think Rune directly declaring he wants to be a captain, was minor and it's being blown up into something more than what it should be. I hate such vague, slap on words like "odd," "wierd" and "strange" that someone can just label onto anyone.

It's far too easy, and carries around negative baggage because it's so vague.

"Oh Rune's not a wolf, but he's certainly acting odd."

"That's strange Rune, not wolvish, but you'r acting wierd."

What is that even supposed to mean? Do you think the person is a wolf, or are you just not agreeing with the way the person is acting?

Funny, how just because you don't think someone is a wolf doesn't mean the person would be a good Captain. It works both ways, just because you don't think someone should be a Captain, doesn't mean that person is a wolf.

A Little Green · 09-22-2009, 02:44 PM

Ok, I'm back, and it seems I have a bit over half an hour to decide who I want to vote for lynch.

It won't be: (a.k.a. people I feel good about or have other reasons for not voting)
Fea - Nothing against her.
Nienna - Very sharp and seems innocent - I might vote to make her a Guard.
Macalaure - I like his reasoning, seems innocent, might vote for a Guard.
Kath - I don't pretend I can read her but she feels okay. Might vote for a Guard.
Loslote - Gets the benefit of doubt for being new, I might have a closer look at her toMorrow since her jump on Valier's suspicion of Nienna did look fishy.
Greenie - Obviously.

Nerwen - Another sensible player who seems innocent this far.
Roa - Way too helpful to be rid of on Day 1 with no reason!
Lommy - Seems nice and cuddly and innocent. I wonder, actually, if she's being a bit too cuddly, but consent to keeping an eye on her.
Boro - He, too, seems innocent and contributes.
Brinn - I know I'm rubbish at reading her but she seems genuine.
Rune - I agree with Mac in that he's most likely innocent or cobbler. Not worth a lynch vote, therefore.

Which leaves:
Valier - Quite frankly I have no idea.
Inzil - Same thing.
Sally - I'm really not sure. I didn't like her vote, it seemed so easy. On the other hand, I fear this may be just the basic Day 1 vague bad feeling thing that ends up in a disaster.
Hakon - His desire to become Captain was odd - I'm just wondering if it's a wolf being a bit too straightforward with his aims, a wolf who's attempting a ploy or an innocent who genuinely thinks he'd make a good Captain. Or a cobbler trying to provoke people by behaving oddly? Dunno.
Gwath - No idea.

EDIT: x-ed with a horde

Kath · 09-22-2009, 02:59 PM

Hey Nog the 'Downs has just been out of action the last 10/15 minutes. Do we get the extra time back or must I throw my votes in now?

Hakon · 09-22-2009, 03:21 PM

I just got home. I am going to start reading then I will vote.

Nogrod · 09-22-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

Hey Nog the 'Downs has just been out of action the last 10/15 minutes. Do we get the extra time back or must I throw my votes in now?

Okay the time is quite nasty for me (0.25AM with an early morning call) but I'd say you get 15 minutes extra toDay, so

the DL is 10.15PM GMT - fifty minutes from now...

Inziladun · 09-22-2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kath

Hey Nog the 'Downs has just been out of action the last 10/15 minutes. Do we get the extra time back or must I throw my votes in now?

Glad to see it's not just my internet.
Admittedly, I don't have much in the way of good lynch candidates.
I need to vote while I can.

++ Lynch Hakon

He can't be just an unusual innocent every time, and I have no better leads at this point.

09-22-2009, 01:44 PM	#2
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	As he is being the most suspicious of everyone: ++ Rune I do not want Rune to be captain... I think today is the most important time for wolves who want to be captain as we have to vote one in that he can be playing very bold in hopes that people would think a wolf wouldn't be so bold. ++Captain Legate He is seeming innocent for me and making some good points and I really don't want Rune as captain. ++NG Roa I'd like to keep her around for a while. She's making good posts and analysis and her being able to talk to someone else might be good. __________________ Puddle! Puddle!

09-22-2009, 02:00 PM	#4
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	From what I've seen of Nienna, it looks like she's making her decisions and then looking for support, rather than looking for support and then making decisions. I'm a bit suspicious of that. If she was a wolf, she might be trying to frame someone and trying to find a reason for it. __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

09-22-2009, 02:08 PM	#6
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Back! Loslote, just because you don't think someone is a wolf doesn't mean they should then be captain. Why did you pick those two for captain and NG? I'm glad to see people are being more vocal with their ideas and suspicions. I t makes me happy. If we have a captain tomorrow (and I'm not saying we will) I do agree that they should be changed regularly. I'm going to see what I've missed. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

09-22-2009, 02:17 PM	#9
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Also: Lommy! YAY! __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

09-22-2009, 02:30 PM	#11
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	On one hand people are saying it was a minor issue between Fea and me, but on the other hand, it was blown out to be something major? Well, I think Rune directly declaring he wants to be a captain, was minor and it's being blown up into something more than what it should be. I hate such vague, slap on words like "odd," "wierd" and "strange" that someone can just label onto anyone. It's far too easy, and carries around negative baggage because it's so vague. "Oh Rune's not a wolf, but he's certainly acting odd." "That's strange Rune, not wolvish, but you'r acting wierd." What is that even supposed to mean? Do you think the person is a wolf, or are you just not agreeing with the way the person is acting? Funny, how just because you don't think someone is a wolf doesn't mean the person would be a good Captain. It works both ways, just because you don't think someone should be a Captain, doesn't mean that person is a wolf. __________________ Fenris Penguin

09-22-2009, 01:38 PM	#1
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	Eek! Sorry. is fixed __________________ Puddle! Puddle!

09-22-2009, 02:44 PM	#12
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	Ok, I'm back, and it seems I have a bit over half an hour to decide who I want to vote for lynch. It won't be: (a.k.a. people I feel good about or have other reasons for not voting) Fea - Nothing against her. Nienna - Very sharp and seems innocent - I might vote to make her a Guard. Macalaure - I like his reasoning, seems innocent, might vote for a Guard. Kath - I don't pretend I can read her but she feels okay. Might vote for a Guard. Loslote - Gets the benefit of doubt for being new, I might have a closer look at her toMorrow since her jump on Valier's suspicion of Nienna did look fishy. Greenie - Obviously. Nerwen - Another sensible player who seems innocent this far. Roa - Way too helpful to be rid of on Day 1 with no reason! Lommy - Seems nice and cuddly and innocent. I wonder, actually, if she's being a bit too cuddly, but consent to keeping an eye on her. Boro - He, too, seems innocent and contributes. Brinn - I know I'm rubbish at reading her but she seems genuine. Rune - I agree with Mac in that he's most likely innocent or cobbler. Not worth a lynch vote, therefore. Which leaves: Valier - Quite frankly I have no idea. Inzil - Same thing. Sally - I'm really not sure. I didn't like her vote, it seemed so easy. On the other hand, I fear this may be just the basic Day 1 vague bad feeling thing that ends up in a disaster. Hakon - His desire to become Captain was odd - I'm just wondering if it's a wolf being a bit too straightforward with his aims, a wolf who's attempting a ploy or an innocent who genuinely thinks he'd make a good Captain. Or a cobbler trying to provoke people by behaving oddly? Dunno. Gwath - No idea. EDIT: x-ed with a horde __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created." Last edited by A Little Green; 09-22-2009 at 03:28 PM.

09-22-2009, 02:59 PM	#13
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Hey Nog the 'Downs has just been out of action the last 10/15 minutes. Do we get the extra time back or must I throw my votes in now? __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

09-22-2009, 03:21 PM	#14
Hakon Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 736	I just got home. I am going to start reading then I will vote. __________________ Medicine for the soul. ~Inscription over the door of the Library at Thebes