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Old 09-11-2009, 11:45 AM   #1
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Well, in the one game that I absolutely should not be lynched, look what happened. I guess now is as good a time as any. I am the ranger. I know, I've been doing a terrible job as far as the guarding goes. Here's a list of the people I tried to save:

Boro
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Brinn

Nerwen was my second choice the night she was killed, and I spent quite a while thinking about that one. And then when Nog bit it the day after, it wasn't a good thing at all.

The night that the sun rose early, I guarded Nilp. Just on the off chance that it actually was a save and not something like the wolves not sending in a kill or one of those other special abilities.

I led off with Boro, because he's always a target, and the quicker I can figure him out the easier game I would have had. Greenie was more or less a random pick, and Nilp and Nog were because the wolves had been targeting people who were making solid contributions and throwing things around. Brinn I chose because I knew the wolves probably were going to kill Nog, so I wanted my next night to be open for someone I thought to be innocent. Not that I'm throwing any heavy suspicion her way, I just thought there are at least two people here I see as more innocent than her.

I do realize I have one vote already, so I'm taking a very large risk here. Talia jacta est.
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:58 AM   #2
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Well, in the one game that I absolutely should not be lynched, look what happened. I guess now is as good a time as any. I am the ranger. I know, I've been doing a terrible job as far as the guarding goes. Here's a list of the people I tried to save:

Boro
Little Green
Nilp
Nogrod
Brinn

Nerwen was my second choice the night she was killed, and I spent quite a while thinking about that one. And then when Nog bit it the day after, it wasn't a good thing at all.

The night that the sun rose early, I guarded Nilp. Just on the off chance that it actually was a save and not something like the wolves not sending in a kill or one of those other special abilities.

I led off with Boro, because he's always a target, and the quicker I can figure him out the easier game I would have had. Greenie was more or less a random pick, and Nilp and Nog were because the wolves had been targeting people who were making solid contributions and throwing things around. Brinn I chose because I knew the wolves probably were going to kill Nog, so I wanted my next night to be open for someone I thought to be innocent. Not that I'm throwing any heavy suspicion her way, I just thought there are at least two people here I see as more innocent than her.

I do realize I have one vote already, so I'm taking a very large risk here. Talia jacta est.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:17 PM   #3
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And that's why I don't vote early.
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McCaber do you have thoughts on people?
Well, I've been thinking that Nilp's innocent since about Day 2. Boro looks pretty ok, and Brinn I completely failed to read, so I saw her as a "disposable choice", if you will. Someone to waste time on until a better option opened up.
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Well, this is a nice mess to come back to. Alas for wilwa, our poor Hunter, and alas for Nogrod!
It hasn't been mentioned yet, but some of you may wonder whether I had a hand in Nog's death for coming after me yesterDay - and if the wolves are indeed trying to frame me, he was a consequent choice for the Night-kill. Truth is, there's no drop of his blood on my hands. I actually appreciated his grilling me and forcing me to explain myself, as it made me think things over and see more clearly, and I really regret he's not around any more to hear me defend myself.
These were the points of suspicion against me he brought forward yesterDay:
1. My Guard vote for Nerwen the Day before yesterDay
When I said 'obviously a good choice' I meant it. She looked innocent to me, and she'd been very reasonable and helpful all game long, so I thought she might well be the wolves' next victim - as indeed she was. Whatever doubts had kept me from Guard-voting her earlier dated back to the time when I suspected Boro, because of connections between them, and had dissolved by then.
2. My suspicion of Boro in #403 and the reasons given
Points 1, 2, 5 and 6 (pity I didn't number them) don't really hold any more, and weren't really crucial back then. What mattered most to me was that he tried very hard to convince us the wolves weren't using the NG for a frame, and his lack of comment after it had become clear they had in fact done so - but I later admitted that this lack may have been due to time issues.
'Creepy' probably was too strong a word to describe my impression of him. The thing is, I actually find it quite easy to trust him and was afraid I might therefore overlook something suspicious, so when I looked at him closely and found what looked to me like some fair reasons to suspect him, it kinda gave me the shivers.
3. My 'please suspect me' post (#432, quoted by Nog in #604)
Case of 'careful what you wish, you might get it'. Well, after my abominable voting on the first two Days, I thought people might have reason to be suspicious of me, and was a little surprised it hadn't happened yet. At the time, of course, I was still deluded enough to think that my defense of Zil was a good idea and I was actually doing better, or I would never have been sarcastic about it.
So in short, I do plead guilty of having made some serious mistakes, but I'm innocent of wolvery.

And now I'd like to concentrate on finding out who the real wolves are. I've not quite digested McCaber's reveal yet, but for the moment I tend to believe him.
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This definitely makes things more interesting... we shall see if there are any counter-reveals. This definitely gives us some more stuff to talk about. McCaber do you have thoughts on people?
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Meh, let's kill him anyway. It's probably been a while since a village had a full set of lynched gifteds.


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Old 09-11-2009, 01:29 PM   #8
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The night that the sun rose early, I guarded Nilp. Just on the off chance that it actually was a save and not something like the wolves not sending in a kill or one of those other special abilities.
I think it's clear that no save occurred that Night, as Eönwe said he would mention a save in the narration. So Nilp can't have been the wolves' target - there must be another explanation.
Talking about those secret roles again, I'm wondering whether we're ever going to find out about them. Has anybody else noticed Nog's armour and sword in last Night's narration?
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Good news (for you lot at least). The person I was to interview had to leave town early so I came home and will be here for....another hour or so. But I'll definitely have to vote an hour before DL if not earlier.
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It just occurred to me - among the surviving wilwa voters (those whose vote counted), Brinn and Nienna can't both be wolves. Both of them contributed to Zil's lynching on Day 3 (Brinn giving him the third vote, Nienna the fifth), and I can see one wolf doing that, but hardly two. Nienna's vote, late in the bandwagon when Zil already looked like a lost case, seems more suspicious to me.
As for Greenie - she joined forces with my misguided effort to avoid lynching Zil, and voted to Guard me on the same Day (following Zil's example?). I don't quite know what to make of this. As a wolf who found me useful, she would have known I was in no danger of being Night-killed. So, Greenie, did you honestly believe we were right (as I did) ?

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The good news is I've divided the remaining players into 2 groups based on how they've interacted with eachother and the wolf Inzil.

Pitch
Greenie
Nilp


Pitch and Greenie were both very defensive of Inzil, and Nilp is pretty much saying he will not vote for Greenie or Pitch. Plus Inzil had very little interaction between the 3 of them.

Brinn
Nienna
Sally


Brinn and Nienna went after and sealed Inzil's fate and Inzil jokingly suspected them, and sally is just thrown in there because I really have no clue.

So far, I'm thinking the first group are more likely Inzil's partners, the way the night guard votes have spread out and no one clearly following someone, I think the wolves were trying to separate themselves as much as possible.

*However, sally and Nilp are interchangeable in my opinion.

Just thought I'd throw out what I'm currently thinking, now back to Pitch.
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Greenie:
36: Thinks there would be more to loose than gain if the seer revealed. Worried about Mnemo
39: Asks Nilp why he voted for himself
43: Says that she is not someone who one would want to get on bad terms with
95: Suspicious of Nog for his suspicion of Lommy
99: Would rather vote for someone with suspicion than a random vote or a vote for someone not contributing
102: Doesn’t like Day One’s, defends her mid-day chats
120: Is feeling ok about Mnemo now and defends herself, is still suspicious of Nog
138: Lynch votes Nog and guards me but mentions that she isn’t throwing away her guard vote completely… this is odd.
218: Doesn’t think the wolves would give up their kill so will probably vote Legate.
290: Mentions some possibilities for if Legate is innocent and if she doesn’t survive… votes to lynch Legate and guard Nog because he is her second top suspect and if he is innocent he is valuable.
410: Thinks that even though we can’t be certain of Nog’s guilt we should still pay attention to him … wolf trying to get another easy lynch??, then she doesn’t like Nerwen and her vote for Zil… it looks like she could be trying to get the heat off of her mate.
411: List: Creepy: Nerwen, Nog, Sally; No Idea: Brinn, Zil, McCaber, Pitchwife, Wilwa; Cuddly: Boro, Hakon, Nienna, Nilp
419: Asking who others want to lynch
422: Shies away from looking at Zil and wants to look at Boro instead
436: Doesn’t want to join the bandwagon so lynch votes for Sally instead
437: Guards Pitchwife because he is an easy Night target
479: Congratulates Zil voters, thinks wolves in the Zil bandwagon would be at the beginning and end, wonders about Hakon
482: List: Leaning Innocent: Boro, Nienna, Nilp, Pitchwife; No Idea: Brinn, McCaber, Nog, Wilwa; Leaning Evil: Hakon, Nerwen, and Sally
484: Worried that people aren’t taking Nog into account at all.
486: Talks about the Shasta guard-wagon
505: Sally creeps her out, flip-flops about Nerwen, Hakon is also being considered for her lynch target
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… so it's Sally or Hakon. Is there any support for either of these? The problem is, I suspect Sally more but Hakon already has one vote so is maybe a bit more likely to actually get lynched.
… this seems off to me… it seems like she is more concerned with their death than their role…
510: Lynch votes Hakon and guard votes Boro
582: Defends her flip-flop nature in regards to Nog, then defends avoiding attention saying there isn’t much else she can do short of screaming "Heeeeeeeeeeey I'm a wolf!"
583: Wonders if a McCaber lynch is too easy
593: Lynch votes her only real suspect: Sally, guard votes for me but I couldn’t be guarded again so she changed to Wilwa in 595
647: Wonders if the Wilwa bandwagon was orchestrated by a wolf and if maybe one of the other lynch options was a wolf as well
650-651: Theory that both Pitchwife and McCaber are wolves, then that would make me a wolf as well

Moral of the Story: I'm pretty sure she's a wolf.

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It's really quite a minor thing about Greenie which worries me the most, it may see insignificant, or trivial, but it's something that wolf-Greenie has done in the past, and the 1st time through I fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

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This is one of the things that I met to say which stands in Pitch's defense.

I recall a certain wolf-Greenie throwing out a vague comment about how Nilp was suspicious and she forgot why, I read it as a sign that she was a gifted. I fell right into it and began aggressively suspecting Nilp, who wound up being the Ranger.

Her comment about Pitch reminds me of the same thing, a vague throw away comment about something important she had to say about someone, but then forgot.
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I have to leave in like ten minutes. I'm still not sure who to vote for.


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As for Greenie - she joined forces with my misguided effort to avoid lynching Zil, and voted to Guard me on the same Day (following Zil's example?). I don't quite know what to make of this. As a wolf who found me useful, she would have known I was in no danger of being Night-killed. So, Greenie, did you honestly believe we were right (as I did) ?
The Zil thing? Of course I believed we were right. Or rather, I did not trust the Zil wagon and since I had no real read on him I did not want to vote him but voted someone I found evil instead. Obviously I made a mistake about Zil, or at least failed to notice something others did. I guarded you because of the ones that had received guard votes you looked the most genuine to me.

I'm currently at a loss (surprisingly enough ) because my top suspects according to logic are Pitchwife and Nienna who both feel very innocent. Then again, my feel of people is often quite off and I think I'd rather trust my logic this time. It is a truly fatal Day. If we lynch an innocent, it's Game over. That is why I want to make a rational, well thought out vote that will (hopefully) contribute to the death of a werewolf.

Relating to that, I'm curious if the people who find me creepy have any reasons for that. I don't mind people being suspicious of me, as long as they don't lose us the game by lynching me, but I'd prefer to know why so that I can answer to those suspicions. Because, as we all know, the best way of finding out whether someone is really a baddie or just an innocent is actually discussing with that person. Just saying "She creeps me out" doesn't lead to any conclusions on the said person's identity unless lynched. By that time it's too late. We want to consider all options. We just really really can't mess this up toDay, which is why I don't fancy "S/he creeps me out" -style suspicions whether they are about me or someone else.


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Thanks Nienna! That cleared things up a bit.
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The reasoning behind that was as simple as to guard-vote someone who has already received votes. It's no good if the votes spread out too much. You had already been voted and I thought you seemed innocent and sharp and thus ended up voting you.
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Well I still think that though Nog is now proven innocent it was rather alarming how people seemed to forget considering him as an option, since we had, at that time, no evidence whatsoever of his innocence. It would hardly have been pushing for an easy lynch, mentioning the possible wolvery of a player no one suspected. As for Nerwen's vote, my dislike for it was not due to who the vote was directed to but the fact that she voted Zil and pretty much said she hoped others wouldn't follow her in that. Voting someone without wanting others to do so too indicates to not really wanting the death of the person voted which makes me really curious as to why vote that person in the first place. Though Nerwen was innocent and Zil was a wolf I can still relate to that argument.
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… so it's Sally or Hakon. Is there any support for either of these? The problem is, I suspect Sally more but Hakon already has one vote so is maybe a bit more likely to actually get lynched.
… this seems off to me… it seems like she is more concerned with their death than their role…
My bad if it seems like that. I'll try to explain. I suspected both Sally and Hakon, Sally a bit more, but I believed either could be a werewolf. If I believe a person to be a werewolf, I want that person to get lynched rather than someone else. Therefore, I was faced with the problem of choosing between my two suspects: one that I thought a tad more likely to be evil, and the other that had already received a vote so was a more likely lynch candidate. My point in re-explaining my thoughts on this matter is this: an innocent, if s/he feels a player to be guilty, wants that person to get lynched, because the lynch is pretty much an ordinary villager's only weapon in this game. Quite frankly I wanted either Sally or Hakon dead because I suspected them. If it seemed like I was more concerned about their death than their role I'm sorry to have seemed so. But, at that moment I had already made some sort of vague conclusions about their roles - so in a way I was, at that point, concentrating on getting one of them killed. Am I making sense?
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I'm not a wolf. I can't, however, expect you to believe that. In any case that's quite a heavy conclusion compared to the arguments in your analysis. It's also not an argument, so it can't be answered with one. What you say is a subjective statement I cannot answer in any possible way; what I say is a subjective truth I can't prove to anyone.


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Her comment about Pitch reminds me of the same thing, a vague throw away comment about something important she had to say about someone, but then forgot.
Honestly now, I hope that even in games where I've been a wolf I haven't been that dishonest! Wolf or no, my brain has a regular leak in it, and I forget stuff all the time. (Again, an argument I can't expect people to believe.) I really think it would be rather unsporty to pretend to have forgotten an argument in order not to have to invent one in the first place, and I don't like it that people actually think I would do that.
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And it seems that Greenie has been chosen. Let's hope she shows fur at nightfall.
Has been chosen?!? One person has voted for me this far. There are eight people in this village. I certainly hope I haven't "been chosen", because, quite frankly, that would mean we've lost the game. I don't even understand why people have nailed me up as a lynch target. I'd understand if I had behaved in a way that would have made me look like a wolf. Yet I haven't seen one single argument against me that actually holds water! This stinks of wolf. An innocent simply doesn't vote without valid arguments on a decisive Day like this. At least I hope so.


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Old 09-11-2009, 02:13 PM   #21
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Post #104 is unsettling:
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Legate, when you come back, would you mind explaining the reasoning behind your Guarding suggestions (Nerwen and Lommy)? I agree that Nerwen's been rather reasonable in her few posts, Lommy slightly less so from my perspective; I certainly don't grudge either of them the protection, but what exactly makes them stand out from others who have talked as much? (Not meaning myself - I'm just an ordo, no use Guarding me.)
He questions Legate about his guard choices, but asks them why he thinks those two stand out from the others. Looking to hone in on possible gifteds Pitch? Plus you just non-chalantly throw out there you'r innocent so there's no point in guarding you, but would the wolves want to be night-guarded?

In #107 he suspects Kitanna for the reasons given by me and Nerwen.

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Kit, just when I've reluctantly decided you're my prime suspect, you have to say something I can see sense in (even if I don't agree)!*sigh*
You forgot McCaber, by the way. (Cancel that - he just showed up.)
But you still end up voting for Kitanna. And if she was your prime suspect why would you have to reluctantly decide it?

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Sally, I think we can safely rule out Kit speculating on actually getting a majority for her Guard Hakon vote when there are several much more promising candidates around. Looks a little bit like a throwaway vote on her part.
But wasn't heard guard Hakon, and guarding the quiet the thing that you said was sensible?

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Dang it, here I go again, wavering and second-guessing myself about my Kit suspicion. Her last post sounds agreeable enough on the surface, but looking closer at it, it seems just a little bit too noncommittal. The reason she gives for her vote for Brinn is a plain case of plagiarism, if I may say so; and however much I disagree with Brinn's own vote myself, I don't find it sufficient to condemn her.
Oh, like your own suspicions against Kitanna were not in fact, plagiarism? *points to #107

Day 2, #285:
Funny how Inzil said wilwa and Nienna seemed to know too much about the wolve's mind, but I don't recall Inzil saying anything towards Pitch about it:
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There remains the one kill last Night when he was guarded. I can see the possibility of the wolves framing him - with the Seer dead, they may think they could afford losing one kill; and if he's innocent, he's attracting so much suspicion right now, detracting it from the wolves themselves, that they would be in no hurry to see him killed or lynched.
#311 his 'fellow' Kit voters:
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Sally - has been very active and helpful yesterDay and toDay, so I fail to see how her retiring to do tallies for the last hour makes her suspicious (actually, it makes me wonder about Brinn and Nog suspecting her for such a frail reason).
Inzil - if I remember correctly from my other games with him, he behaved somewhat inscrutably both as a wolf and an innocent. I'd like to hear a little more from him, as most of his posts have been rather shortish.
Boro - looks good, all in all.
Nerwen - looks really good.
wilwa - has made some outstanding contributions, especially in her latest post; rather unsuspicious.
Lommy - now that's a hard one. I don't really know what to make of her, and her attempts to defend Legate (unless they have to do with life outside the village) don't sit right with me. But is it really probable she and Legs are wolves together?
Discards Nerwen and Me as simply looking good. Yet has quite a bit to say about Lommy, sally, and Inzil. 1 known innocent, 1 unknown, and 1 known wolf.

His reasons for not suspecting sally has nothing to do with her vote for Kitanna, but her vote tallies. And he turns suspicions on Nog and Brinn for pointing out sally's vote tallies.

He makes no statement of feelings about Inzil at all, the only person in his list of fellow Kit voters, he just wishes to hear more.

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Sorry if you're innocent, but you'll understand we have to find out. (And I do sincerely hope you're not gifted!)
This is what he says when he votes Legate, kind of a wierd statement to make. You can tell us if you were secretly hoping he was gifted, Pitch, go on the truth sets us free.

#373 and #375 is more of Pitch sharing his mind about the wolf kills. Again, how come Inzil never pointed out you seemed to know the wolve's mind very well Pitchers? In both he also defense Inzil, and defends Nogrod.

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That would be very funny indeed - even more if we actually managed to win that way against you veterans! (And NO, that was NOT a confession, of course!)
The truth will set you free.

#403
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says Inzil feels wolfish quite early, for what seem to me very flimsy reasons;
supports Mnemo's plan, though cautiously;
says he can't see the wolves wasting a night-kill to frame somebody, and
thinks McCaber needs watching for suggesting they might;
concurs with Nog's suspicion of Lommy;
suspects Kit (which persuaded myself at the time) and votes her;
argues for lynching Legate, dismisses Legate's defense that he was framed (see above!), and votes him;
hasn't said anything notable about the fact that Leg was indeed framed, and says Nog is still suspicious because of the one kill.
Instead of restating what I've done, please point out what it is that made those things make me look suspicious? As I recall, Inzil turned out to be a wolf, my only regret is not following up on a vote for him, or sticking to my guns. His cool reaction was a lot different from the last time I suspected Inzil of wolvery (and was correct).

I persuaded you to vote for Kit? I've taken responsibility for that crapper mistake, while you continue to blame me for persuading you.

What would the point be in actually stating Legate was framed? The reason I suspected Nogrod still, is because I thought after that night when there was one kill, Nogrod immediately came out and tried to pass off he was innocent. However, as I told Nogrod I made an error, it was wilwa and Hakon.

And me agreeing with someone about one of their suspicions is sketchy...because? Weren't you the one who became persuaded to vote for Kitanna, because of me and Nerwen?

The lab I'm at is closing in 10 minutes, I'll head back and finish Pitch in a bit.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:33 PM   #22
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He questions Legate about his guard choices, but asks them why he thinks those two stand out from the others. Looking to hone in on possible gifteds Pitch?
Sorry, no. Just trying to get a read on Legate based on his answers.

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But you still end up voting for Kitanna. And if she was your prime suspect why would you have to reluctantly decide it?
It was Day 1, for Goddess's sake! Never had to pick somebody to vote, found one person more suspicious than any others, but couldn't be sure you were right?

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But wasn't heard guard Hakon, and guarding the quiet the thing that you said was sensible?
Only when I don't have any more viable candidates, or can't decide between them.

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Oh, like your own suspicions against Kitanna were not in fact, plagiarism? *points to #107
In a way, yes. Point taken.

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Discards Nerwen and Me as simply looking good. Yet has quite a bit to say about Lommy, sally, and Inzil. 1 known innocent, 1 unknown, and 1 known wolf.
So what exactly is your point?

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His reasons for not suspecting sally has nothing to do with her vote for Kitanna, but her vote tallies. And he turns suspicions on Nog and Brinn for pointing out sally's vote tallies.
I just didn't find her tallies a sufficient reason to suspect her, and found it odd that Nog & Brinn suspected her because of that.

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He makes no statement of feelings about Inzil at all, the only person in his list of fellow Kit voters, he just wishes to hear more.
Hear more so I could form an opinion about him, which I hadn't at the time, hence no statement.

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This is what he says when he votes Legate, kind of a wierd statement to make. You can tell us if you were secretly hoping he was gifted, Pitch, go on the truth sets us free.
This is what Nilp referred to as 'Legate as a test case'. If I remember correctly, about half the village thought that way.

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#373 and #375 In both he also defense Inzil, and defends Nogrod.
1 known innocent, and 1 wolf. What does that prove?

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Instead of restating what I've done, please point out what it is that made those things make me look suspicious? As I recall, Inzil turned out to be a wolf, my only regret is not following up on a vote for him, or sticking to my guns. His cool reaction was a lot different from the last time I suspected Inzil of wolvery (and was correct).
Yep, you were right about Zil. Go on, rub it in.

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I persuaded you to vote for Kit? I've taken responsibility for that crapper mistake, while you continue to blame me for persuading you.
I don't blame you; that was only one point in the post you're referring to, what made me suspicious was everything taken together. You made a point about Kit, I found it convincing; acting upon it (i.e. voting her) was my own responsibility.

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What would the point be in actually stating Legate was framed? The reason I suspected Nogrod still, is because I thought after that night when there was one kill, Nogrod immediately came out and tried to pass off he was innocent. However, as I told Nogrod I made an error, it was wilwa and Hakon.
I just thought that after that frame, you might have been more wary of basing suspicions on the NG and single kills. As for the last sentence, sorry, I don't get it.

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And me agreeing with someone about one of their suspicions is sketchy...because? Weren't you the one who became persuaded to vote for Kitanna, because of me and Nerwen?
See above.

You know what? Right now, I'm beginning to think I may just be too honest for this game. And I'm getting tired of sackcloth & ashes.
I'm assuming you're coming after me because you honestly suspect me to be a wolf. I don't say the suspicion is unearned, and you do it well. But if you're a wolf driving nails into my coffin to make sure another innocent is lynched, well done too.
Sadly, the truth as you see it will see us all dead.

P.S. Before I forget it:
++Guard McCaber
I think if he was faking, we would have a counter-reveal by now.

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