Tol-in-Gaurhoth LXIX: Were-Librarians - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nienna · 08-05-2009, 03:40 PM

I agree with Boro on what he said about Mods... It has been my experience that some people request roles and then the mods can decide if they want to heed this requests or not. Most try for random but it is not often easy.

EDIT: x-ed with Fea

Boromir88 · 08-05-2009, 03:55 PM

I can tell you how I'm going to choose roles for my upcoming game

But that won't be relevant, so you'll just have to wait, and I doubt Lari would like someone advertising during her game.

So onward with suspected book wolvery, I think this topic has had enough air time(as long as I get the last word)

Lariren Shadow · 08-05-2009, 04:00 PM

No I wouldn't...but at some point I would like to know

And, for reference because there is discussion, the roles were random. A hat was used to pick them.

Macalaure · 08-05-2009, 04:16 PM

I can't believe that nobody has thrown in a bit of basic werewolf lore yet: If you have a hunch about the gifteds, unless you're evil yourself, for crying out loud - shut up! With very few exceptions, you're only helping the wolves!

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Originally Posted by Boro

Hunches are good though, because hunches are starting points, now you have to have reasons for your hunches, care to explain Hakon?

Boro, did you just seriously ask Hakon to elaborate on why he thinks I'm the ranger?? Hakon might get a pass for that for being new, you know better.

Boro=evil.

alonariel · 08-05-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

I can't believe that nobody has thrown in a bit of basic werewolf lore yet: If you have a hunch about the gifteds, unless you're evil yourself, for crying out loud - shut up! With very few exceptions, you're only helping the wolves!

Boro, did you just seriously ask Hakon to elaborate on why he thinks I'm the ranger?? Hakon might get a pass for that for being new, you know better.

Boro=evil.

I was in the middle of making a post that consisted of something like "Why would Boro want to further expose Mac as the ranger if he was a good guy?" Now, I'm not convinced Mac is the ranger - in fact, I have a feeling (much like Hakon's hunch) that he may not even be on the side of good in this game - but Boro's blatant fishing has me worried now. Evil? Maybe.

Boromir88 · 08-05-2009, 04:41 PM

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Boro, did you just seriously ask Hakon to elaborate on why he thinks I'm the ranger?? Hakon might get a pass for that for being new, you know better.

Boro=evil.~Mac

It's already been thrown out there and not be me, so stop making it look like this is some big secret we should shupt up about. I don't know why that makes me evil. And in this case the Ranger is much better protected because he/she can defend himself or anyone twice in a row...I figure the role is almost like the hunter where sometimes the hunter is more dangerous known than unknown.

This isn't the normal Ranger and I don't know why you jumped on me asking about Hakon's hunch. For all you know I could be the ranger and curious to Hakon's reasoning and trying to protect myself. (I'll say now before I get bombarded against by more people I'm not the Ranger...but whatever)

It's more evil that 2 people immediately jump out on me asking Hakon to explain himself.

alonariel · 08-05-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

It's more evil that 2 people immediately jump out on me asking Hakon to explain himself.

I wasn't trying to tag team you about questioning Hakon; I even asked a question of him. There's no need to get defensive (unless it's a guilty conscience speaking); as it is, you explained why you wanted to know about Hakon's hunch and it can be left at that. For now.

Shastanis Althreduin · 08-05-2009, 04:54 PM

OMGUS much, Boro? (Wow, I used a Mafia term.)

Here and reading. Foremost in my mind today is Fea vs. Nerwen, and of the two I think Nerwen the more likely to be innocent... but this could just be the general innocent vs. innocent that seems to happen every game.

Formendacil · 08-05-2009, 04:59 PM

Well, said Form, I'm back...

Which is to say that I've read over the thread, with greater detail here, less detail there. Unfortunately, as usual, I'm not having wolves leap out of the shadows and declare themselves--which is a crying shame, since that means I can look forward to the tedious task of trying to sort things out the old-fashioned way.

On the very recent (relative to the rest of the day) note that Mac could be a Gifted/Wolf and Boro would be stupendously foolish to point out the former if that's the case... I haven't got any good reasons for thinking it at the moment, but as far as all that goes, my gut is on the side of Boromir and says that Mac could be a WW. The point was raised earlier that I might be a late-coming wolf voting Hakon in the hopes of saving Sally--I'm not, but I'm not so young at this as to think you'll take my word for it.

The point has also already been made, I think, that Mac could have been doing the same thing with his Nienna vote. Oddly, perhaps, that line of reasoning doesn't especially bother me--if, indeed, it's true (as we cannot tell till the post-game) what Mac says about not knowing Nienna's Day 1 Death-Penchant. Perhaps this is just me and the skewed perspective of having visited said Downer.

However... even if Mac didn't seem guilty on the start-a-different-bandwaggon note, he does seem extra jumpy about Boro at the moment, and as I don't really know what to make of that, I'm inclined to ascribe it to Wolvery.

More anon...

Macalaure · 08-05-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

It's already been thrown out there and not be me, so stop making it look like this is some big secret we should shupt up about.

It's been thrown out as a hunch without anything to back it. Unlikely the librarians would seriously consider it as it stood. You were asking him to solidify it and, which would also cause the village to discuss gifteds instead of librarians.

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Originally Posted by Boro

I don't know why that makes me evil.

See above.

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Originally Posted by Boro

And in this case the Ranger is much better protected because he/she can defend himself or anyone twice in a row...I figure the role is almost like the hunter where sometimes the hunter is more dangerous known than unknown.

*takes a deep breath*

That is utter nonsense. Yes, the ranger is better protected and is able to take two night kills away from the librarians if revealed. But if he has to protect himself he cannot protect the seer twice and thus give us two additional dreams out of a revealed seer. Two dreams at the end of the game can be deciding! You know that well. Almost like the hunter? What threat is attacking the ranger to the librarians? None, except for losing kills.

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Originally Posted by Boro

This isn't the normal Ranger and I don't know why you jumped on me asking about Hakon's hunch.

See above.

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Originally Posted by Boro

For all you know I could be the ranger and curious to Hakon's reasoning and trying to protect myself. (I'll say now before I get bombarded against by more people I'm not the Ranger...but whatever)

No. If that was the case you would be gathering questionable information at the cost of risking the life of someone you do not know is not gifted.

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Originally Posted by Boro

It's more evil that 2 people immediately jump out on me asking Hakon to explain himself.

True. It should have been more.

Alonariel - you voted for me yesterday without reason and you still think I'm suspicious... mind to share why?

Form, I'm jumpy about Boro because he did something an innocent Boro would not have done. Would a wolf-Boro do it? Not sure, maybe not, because it would be too risky. Would a cobbler-Boro do it? Yes. (Note that I said Boro=evil, not Boro=wolf.)
Anyway, with the Snitch's power the way it is, I would not consider lynching him a waste in the least.

08-05-2009, 03:40 PM	#1
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	I agree with Boro on what he said about Mods... It has been my experience that some people request roles and then the mods can decide if they want to heed this requests or not. Most try for random but it is not often easy. EDIT: x-ed with Fea __________________ Puddle! Puddle! Last edited by Nienna; 08-05-2009 at 03:41 PM. Reason: x-ed with Fea

08-05-2009, 03:55 PM	#2
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	I can tell you how I'm going to choose roles for my upcoming game But that won't be relevant, so you'll just have to wait, and I doubt Lari would like someone advertising during her game. So onward with suspected book wolvery, I think this topic has had enough air time(as long as I get the last word) __________________ Fenris Penguin

08-05-2009, 04:00 PM	#3
Lariren Shadow Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Where the day meets the night Posts: 607	Moddess here... No I wouldn't...but at some point I would like to know And, for reference because there is discussion, the roles were random. A hat was used to pick them. __________________ Choose treachery, its more fun!

08-05-2009, 04:54 PM	#8
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	OMGUS much, Boro? (Wow, I used a Mafia term.) Here and reading. Foremost in my mind today is Fea vs. Nerwen, and of the two I think Nerwen the more likely to be innocent... but this could just be the general innocent vs. innocent that seems to happen every game. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

08-05-2009, 04:59 PM	#9
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Well, said Form, I'm back... Which is to say that I've read over the thread, with greater detail here, less detail there. Unfortunately, as usual, I'm not having wolves leap out of the shadows and declare themselves--which is a crying shame, since that means I can look forward to the tedious task of trying to sort things out the old-fashioned way. On the very recent (relative to the rest of the day) note that Mac could be a Gifted/Wolf and Boro would be stupendously foolish to point out the former if that's the case... I haven't got any good reasons for thinking it at the moment, but as far as all that goes, my gut is on the side of Boromir and says that Mac could be a WW. The point was raised earlier that I might be a late-coming wolf voting Hakon in the hopes of saving Sally--I'm not, but I'm not so young at this as to think you'll take my word for it. The point has also already been made, I think, that Mac could have been doing the same thing with his Nienna vote. Oddly, perhaps, that line of reasoning doesn't especially bother me--if, indeed, it's true (as we cannot tell till the post-game) what Mac says about not knowing Nienna's Day 1 Death-Penchant. Perhaps this is just me and the skewed perspective of having visited said Downer. However... even if Mac didn't seem guilty on the start-a-different-bandwaggon note, he does seem extra jumpy about Boro at the moment, and as I don't really know what to make of that, I'm inclined to ascribe it to Wolvery. More anon... __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.