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Old 07-07-2009, 11:23 AM   #1
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I was just trying to be honest about why I don't think I should play more - and this is a gradual realisation not the result of one game. I am probably over sensitive but on the other hand I am not at home when I play able to pop in now and then go off and make a cup of tea, read a book come back and see what is going on. I try and give as much time as I can wangle and often there is noone around... it is madness. Then you come back to find the place has gone mad while you are away. I end up playing catch up, trying to correct things someone accused me of in a previous day then seeming odd and defensive and then go throught he whole noone else around thing to then get accused of not participating properly.


I knew this game was going to be tough but I had played other games with no reveal (but not so many villains). It was more after we lost the seer that it seemed hopeless. I also expected that we might have used the double kill and frankly I think it was a major own goal that we didn't instead of lynching Mira (assuming she would have been modfired). Confirming that for instance that Greenie was the seer would have spared me for one wondering if Issy was right ...I wasn't a lot of time trying to convince myself that there was no plausible set of circumstances for Greenie to be bluffing.


I know that we signed up for the game as advertised and I don't have a problem with that really.

I do know that someone has to lose... usually that someone is me... ... I actually really suck most of the time at this. So its myself I am most frustrated with - first time for ages that my instincts have been right (post 868 inter alia) and pushing them might have made a difference ..though that might have been getting myself lynched:S Heigh ho..

Anyway sincere apologies for rambling miserably on...
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:29 PM   #2
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Okay, I get it. A lot of people felt this game was unbalanced from the get-go. But if so many felt this way before the game even started, why not speak up?~Brinn
It came off as a new challenge, that's why I signed up when I really should have been working on my several assignments throughout the summer. You appealed to the Captain Kirk in me.

I don't know if I would have called it 'unbalanced,' because clearly had the wolves not gotten the seer right at the start, who knows how that would have effected the outcome? But, as an ordo, in this one, to do what I normally do was far more trying and challenging. That is why I went off early in the game about the minimal posting, and why I thought the mod-fire rule was there in the first place. It was simply impossible to do anything when people weren't posting. In a normal game, you always have the revealed roles, and kills, to fall back on, but this primarily relied on what people said and how they reacted...when you don't say anything, it's impossible to figure anything out.

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And unfortunately, I seem to see things much differently than others (and not just in WW). I wish it weren't so since it always seems to cause problems for me, but I can't change how I think as much as I may try.
What good would it do anyone to have us all nod heads in agreement? It's good to have different perspective, and I don't mean to be a problem for you (or anyone) simply because we see things differently.

I know when Nerwen, Mith, and I were wolves in your last modded game, Nerwen had to leave unexpectedly and you switched Kitanna into a wolf for us, because you didn't think it was fair to us...I don't know what my partners, or anyone else said, but I did tell you I didn't want another wolf, I thought we could have managed without. In that situation, I think the majority agreed to give us another wolf, but I honestly believed we didn't deserve one.

You were faced with a similar dilemma here, and you stuck to what you honestly believed would be fair to everyone, if I was a wolf in this one, I probably would have disagreed with you again. That's not because I like causing you problems and trust me, the outcome did not sour the experience. That's simply because I wonder how much rope should the wolves be allowed, they win the majority of games because they start out with an advantage, and people might not think knowing who's who is not a big advantage (it probably isn't lots of things can have a much bigger effect who wins and loses), but the bottomline is that's why the wolves win the majority of games. That's just the basic nature of it, so I just disagree with any decision to further help them out, whether I'm a wolf or not.
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Old 07-11-2009, 11:21 AM   #3
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Thanks everybody for a tight, nerve-wrecking, absurd, wonderful game! I was so angry for getting killed after only one dream, especially because I guessed it wasn't due to seeming seerish. I would have loved to live longer in my first game as a Seer, and I believe the village's situation was made quite the worse for losing me. I loved the game nevertheless and being able to post after death was some compensation for getting killed so early.

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I was tempted to rep you a second time today for totally making my day but BD doesn't let me.
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Old 07-16-2009, 10:31 AM   #4
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I was tempted to rep you a second time today for totally making my day but BD doesn't let me.
I repped him just now for it, when re-reading through the game.



Gah, this was so fantastic!

I decided that given my last experience as a cobbler *glares teasingly at Boro* I would be outright about my evil-ish nature so the wolves didn't waste a kill on me. My real goal was to actually get lynched twice, but I obviously didn't run enough mok () to do it.

Once again, fabulous game, everyone, and Brinn, I think you did in fact make the right choice. It could have been handled maybe a bit better but in the end it was best for the game to not have it end prematurely. Long live Teflon Wolf!
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Old 08-18-2009, 02:28 PM   #5
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Grave-digging this thread, just to say a few things. The basic setting was challenging, not unfair, and it was just the loss of the seer that made it too bad for us innocents. And if I ever complained I hate the game, it was because keeping roles in secret gets into my nerves, but if I really hated that kind of games, I wouldn't have signed in. I just like complaining. (So: notice to all mods - if I say I hate your game, don't take it seriously, I'm just whining!)

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Kudos and curses to Lommy! Expect to be killed very early the next time I'm a wolf.
Haha, truth be told I'm happy I managed to read you, because a long time ago I was quite good at reading you until you altered your playing style and since then I have been totally clueless up until this game. Cheers!

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I would like another apology from Lommy...but this one just to rub it in, alright you get all the glory about Mac, and I do apologize for not trusting you about him sooner. However, Kath? Why jump out early with a full-frontal assault...just let me explain myself first, and then go all-out bombardment if you feel you have to. We're really even though, you were right about Mac, and I was right about Kath.
I'm seriously sorry! She just fooled me absolutely completely - I still have hard time believing she was innocent...

Thanks everybody once again, it was a great and memorable game.
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