WW LXI: Grimm Tales

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Nope. The seer has not dreamed of them, yet.

Wait... what!?

[the phantom]

So in other words, we just took a shot in the dark despite guidance from the Seer?

Should've left my vote on Izzy. Whatever.

[wilwarin538]

Yet again the villagers gathered in the town square as the sun began to set. It was an interesting day, votes were fairly spread out. It seemed Izzy would be the one to go today. However suddenly, right before the last glimpse of the sun, she cried out "I am the Fairy Godmother."

Everyone scrambled, changing votes and trying to figure out whether she was being truthful. When it was over Shasta had received the most votes.

"You're making another mistake." he said with a sigh as they led him towards the gallows. He eyed the contraption and sighed again "Oh please, not like that. I'm a fletcher, if I have to die I'd like it to be by one of my arrows."

"Oh...but we don't really know how to shoot arrows." Gwath pointed out as everyone nodded.

"My shop is rigt there, everyone grab a bow and an arrow and I'm sure atleast one will hit." he sighed again, trying to figure out how he stayed in business when there were no archers in town.

They all agreed and found themselves some bows with arrows. They put Shasta against a far wall and all lined up.

"3......2......1" Kath counted down as they got their arrows set, then they all shot at once.

Most of them missed, quite terribly actually, but four managed to hit their target, right in the middle of Shasta's chest. No one could tell who's arrows had hit, they barely even knew where their own had gone, but the deed had been done either way. They all watched Shasta's body, but nothing happened. No clues.

The villagers dropped the bows and started walking to their proper homes, the four baddies taking their usual routes towards the Old Witch's home. They all smiled to themselves. What bad guy doesn't know how to shoot an arrow?


The dead:
Nienna - bookkeeper - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – minstrel – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - herbalist - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden
Boro88 - the shruber – yum, frog legs Night 3 – Frog-Prince
Sally – poor serving girl – died of shear sorrow Night 3 - Princess
Shasta - fletcher - shot by arrows Day 3 - ordinary villager

The living:
Nerwen - bookmaker
Eomer - gravedigger
Aganzir - jailor, arena and lions included
McCaber - humble shopkeeper
Izzy - baker
Mira - apothocary
Gaurcrist - blacksmith
Gwath - drunk vagrant
Kath - restaurant owner
Inziladun - shruberrer's apprentice
Fea - Storyteller
Greenie - school teacher
Lari - fortune teller
the phantom - the crazy book liberator

Now Night 4. Names please. No posting here.

[wilwarin538]

One by one the villagers woke up and began to gather in the town square, all of them extremely glum about the last 3 Days. It was another nice day, which many of them found odd; during such a terrible time surely it should be rainy, or at least a little cloudy. But no, the sun shone and the birds sang as if all was well with the world.

As they arrived it took them a few moments to notice who it was that was missing. It was Gwathagor. They stood around quite confused, they didn’t even know where Gwath lived. So they wandered, trying to find a house fit for a drunken vagrant. No luck.

“Well, I don’t see where he could have lived. Which way did he go at the end of the Day?” Fea asked.

“Well, I think maybe that direction.” Eomer suggested, pointing south-east. The villagers followed his finger and saw in the distance a great castle atop a hill.

“Maybe he lived near that castle?” Nerwen suggested.

“Isn’t that just a model?” Greenie questioned.

“Well, maybe it isn’t. Let’s go see.” Lari said. So the villagers began to walk towards the castle. It wasn't a great distance away, so soon they arrived.

“Hmm, so it isn’t a model then…interesting.” McCaber said, quite impressed.

As they got closer they could see something hanging mid-way up one of the large stone walls. When they stopped a few feet away they realised it was Gwath. He was hanging by his wrists, which were attached by strong ropes. Their eyes drifted down until they landed on his feet. Or lack thereof; they had been chopped off somehow. As they looked over him again they noticed he was also holding a beautiful glass slipper.

“Look at the sign by the door!” Izzy exclaimed, pointing near the large wooden door. There was a small sign, and written on it in a beautiful script was: This be the castle of Prince Gwathagor the Charming.

“Oh my, we had a secret Prince living among us.” Inziladun proclaimed as they all stared back at the body of Gwath in awe.

“I’ll be sure to give him a very nice burial then.” Eomer said, taking the shovel down from his shoulder yet again.

The villagers let him be as they began walking back down to the village. Cinderella, who was still hidden among them, shed a silent tear. She had known the identity of her prince, but he had not been able to find her. Her first instinct was to leave and live her lonely life far away from this place, but she decided against it. She would stay in this village and she would help them be rid of the evil that had taken her destined love away from her.

Discussions began.

The dead:
Nienna - bookkeeper - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – minstrel – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - herbalist - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden
Boro88 - the shruber – yum, frog legs Night 3 – Frog-Prince
Sally – poor serving girl – died of shear sorrow Night 3 - Princess
Shasta - fletcher - shot by arrows Day 3 - ordinary villager
Gwath – drunk vagrant – defeated Night 4 – Prince Charming

The living:
Nerwen - bookmaker
Eomer - gravedigger
Aganzir - jailor, arena and lions included
McCaber - humble shopkeeper
Izzy - baker
Mira - apothocary
Gaurcrist - blacksmith
Kath - restaurant owner
Inziladun - shruberrer's apprentice
Fea - Storyteller
Greenie - school teacher
Lari - fortune teller
the phantom - the crazy book liberator

It is now Day 4. You may discuss. Names names names.

Sidenote: Cinderella is still in danger from the Robber Bridegroom. Otherwise there’s nothing special about her.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I had been wondering if Izzy had just messed up (along with the Seer), but I see she was not the target of the wolves.

At least the Seer's still around, hopefully with a lot of information.

[Gaurcrist]

Lynch tp! I say we should lynch tp. Well, as I explained before, he is probably bad, and if he is lynched and wasn't bad, at least we'll be rid of a malicious player. Who is with me!?

[Gaurcrist]

Now, I will vote phantom for reasons I explained before.

++Phantom

[Inziladun]

So they left Izzy alone, even after her last minute revelation. Why? Even if she was lying and just trying to save herself, that seems an awful risk for the baddies to take. After all, the seer and the ranger are in communication. And phantom- taking her word for it so quickly? How could he be so sure?
Izzy needs to do some fast talking and come up with something good. I echo Eomer in thinking the seer would be most helpful today as well.

edit- x'd with Gaur-no one can question his consistency.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Eh, regardless of phantom's true motives, his public image was the same as mine - and if it was a trap to kill another innocent (as it looks like) then I fell for it too. Yeah, I was a bit unsure of Izzy's reveal but sometimes you have to make a decision.

Gaurcrist is very much on the radar now. He might have been advised to cause some trouble at the start of the day to distract the village (or is the Robber Bridegroom). Again, regardless of phantom's true nature, Gaurcrist's early action isn't helpful.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I had been wondering if Izzy had just messed up (along with the Seer), but I see she was not the target of the wolves.

Either the wolves thought she was protecting herself or wanted to make her a lynch target today, or she is one of them. Gwath's death doesn't surprise me much, though - the way he and Izzy started suspecting me almost simultaneously looked like they had been communicating with each other. The wolves probably thought they'd get the seer (or, alternatively, if Izzy is a wolf, wanted to make it look like they had been trying to target the seer).

So, Izzy. What am I? (I'd prefer you didn't state my exact role aloud here, you know, but you can always tell if I'm innocent or not. )

Also - if Izzy is not the ranger, the real ranger should probably stay quiet about her identity. The seer knows who she is and that should be enough for now.

By the way, if Reddie hasn't been turned, it's 5-8 now (and might get worse very quickly if Cinderella has been too loud about her secret love). If we don't get a baddie today and there's no ranger save/hunter kill in the night, it'll be 5-6 tomorrow, after which, well... Of course we can hope that communication between the wolves and the Bridegroom doesn't work and they're not aware of one another, but we can't count on that.
If Reddie is a wolf already and we don't know about it, then we have practically lost.

I am going through yesterday now, there are some things I want to comment on.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Gwath's death doesn't surprise me much, though - the way he and Izzy started suspecting me almost simultaneously looked like they had been communicating with each other. The wolves probably thought they'd get the seer (or, alternatively, if Izzy is a wolf, wanted to make it look like they had been trying to target the seer).

I'm thinking there is no way Aganzir says this unless Izzy is a wolf. No way. It points out Aganzir as a wolf.

Then I think: if Izzy did just mess up yesterday, Aganzir is cleverly making sure there's no way of Izzy getting the village back on her side: Aganzir had Gwath killed, and everything is pointed to a set-up of an innocent Aganzir by Wolf Izzy.

Either way, one of them is going today, and I wouldn't rule out wolf-on-wolf.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Gwath's death doesn't surprise me much, though - the way he and Izzy started suspecting me almost simultaneously looked like they had been communicating with each other. The wolves probably thought they'd get the seer

Good grief. Who needs a seer to notice the fact that Aganzir just admitted she's evil.

The only way two people simultaneously suspecting somebody makes any difference to bad guys is if that somebody is a bad guy. Makes no difference the role of the two: the guilty conscience speaks for itself.

++Aganzir

Originally Posted by Izzy

Well, if you are shocked it were not true - it implies you believed they were for some reason. If you believed they were dreamed of, then you believed my Ranger claim. If you believed my Ranger claim, then why didn't you change your vote accordingly? Go ahead.

Easy, Iz: at the time I didn't actually believe (for certain) your Ranger reveal. I'd been thinking Robber Bridegroom for you. So when you revealed, I started to doubt myself, and then when you revealed that you knew absolutely jack (for certain, at least) about the roles of these people you were trying to get killed, I became rather more confident that you were behaving cobblerishly, trying to deflect attention from somebody, I just didn't know - and didn't have time to figure out - who.

In any case, whether you're bridegroom or not, you obviously scared Aganzir.

Originally Posted by Eomer

I'm thinking there is no way Aganzir says this unless Izzy is a wolf. No way. It points out Aganzir as a wolf.

I'm surprised I didn't think of this. I'd made it to:

Izzy = Bridegroom, Agan = spooked wolf
Izzy = Ranger, Agan = rightfully scared wolf
Izzy = Bluffing something, Agan = Robber Bridegroom trying to... I dunno...

But wolf on wolf is a twist I need to think about.

At least I'm finally confident about somebody's role.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Gwath's death doesn't surprise me much, though - the way he and Izzy started suspecting me almost simultaneously looked like they had been communicating with each other. The wolves probably thought they'd get the seer (or, alternatively, if Izzy is a wolf, wanted to make it look like they had been trying to target the seer).

Agan:

The wolves probably thought they'd get the Seer, agreed. If they thought Gwath was the Seer then it's pretty clear that his totally unexplained and out-of-the-blue vote for you had something to do with it.

[A Little Green]

I'm sorry I wasn't able to play yesterDay, but I'll try to make amends for it toDay. I didn't get half the stuff that was said yesterDay, I've a few comments on things that stood out to me in one way or another.

Originally Posted by Aganchirp

I'm still flip-flopping on Greenie. The way she flip-flopped on Cab & Shasta looked innocent but her posting near the deadline & her vote looked somehow... too calculating.

Well of course I would be calculating! I am interested in the outcome of the vote, I don't want to make a throwaway vote, and therefore I'm interested in knowing what other people are planning to do and calculate the possible outcomes of different options in my head. Unless they have fellows on the chopping block I'd say it's more the wolves who have no real need to calculate.

Originally Posted by Mira

Case against Fea starting Day 2

Originally Posted by Mira

Now this statement seems innocent enough. However, nothing that seems innocent with Fea ever is unless she's a baddie.

A couple of people have mentioned that Mira's case against Fea was quite flawed. What bothered me more was that she seemed to have decided beforehand that she suspects Fea and was therefore determined to find fur in Fea's every statement. Now people who just decide to suspect someone and then pursue that suspicion determinedly smell of wolf to me.


EDIT: x-ed with Agan and Eomer

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by phantom

Also, if you get the chance, Green, could you explain your Mith vote to me? I have written down that you said you didn't like any of the available candidates (you named Mith, Boro, and Eomer) but then you voted for Mith even though Izzy was available as an option, and you had not listed her as a bad lynch choice, where as you had mentioned Mith.

Yes we can! (Errr I meant yes, I can. I'm on a humourous mood today, it seems. ) So. My Mith vote. I did not mention Izzy in the post where I mentioned lynch candidates I don't like because she wasn't much voted for at that time. I did mention later on that I had nothing on Izzy and wouldn't like to vote for her. Just for clarity's sake, here are my posts from Day 2 that consider Mith and Izzy and voting.

Originally Posted by me on Day 2

I'm inclined to think Boro innocentish so I'd rather not see him go - but then, I'm not sure I'd like to vote Mith or Eomer either. There are sure to be better candidates!

Izzy? I'm not convinced about her either. How many still to vote? What are you planning to do? I wouldn't like to cast a throwaway vote.

I have nothing on Izzy, I don't know about Mith, and I don't suspect Boro. This is not nice.

++ Mithalwen

Because I suspect her more than Boro or Izzy.

So, basically, I was sort of torn about Mith (she struck me both more guilty and more innocent) and had absolutely nothing on Izzy. I concluded that Izzy could be just anything, whereas Mith was probably at least not a gifted (ie. seer or ranger) since I thought a gifted would not behave quite the way she did. Obviously, as you can see on the time stamp of my vote, I didn't have the time to make long explanations of what I was thinking.

Hope I made sense.


EDIT: x-ed with Inzy and Eomer

[Isabellkya]

Oh dear Village. That would be the conundrum would it not? Did I drink the wine proffered to me, or did I drink the wine in Their cup?

I know what you did.

I know you do. But They don't. They know not whether I ate cakes of my own making to counteract the poison or simply drank the sweet beverage. Nor do they know which cup I drank from.

It doesn't matter which cup you drank from.

Oh, but it does!
...........




Anywhoo. I don't believe I ever claimed dream results were in on Aganzir and Shasta. I said I had an epiphany - very different. Which I apologize Shasta - I seemed to have been in a destructive mood, or something.

To the best of my knowledge, I can't recall ever fake claiming here - I don't see why I would start now. I suppose if I was for sure to be in the noose yesterDay (which I wasn't), and was feeling particularly suicidal I suppose.

Which begs the question, as to why some people whom were around yesterDay at deadline did not try to save me after I claimed. But, professed 'shocked' sentiments when I said Aganzir and Shasta had not been dreamed.

Well, if you are shocked it were not true - it implies you believed they were for some reason. If you believed they were dreamed of, then you believed my Ranger claim. If you believed my Ranger claim, then why didn't you change your vote accordingly? Go ahead.



If you want to lynch me, I would only ask that you wait until a bit later. Or go and do it in the next ten minutes. Otherwise, I'm leaving in ten minutes - well thirteen to be precise and will be gone all day. Not a holiday for me today.


X'd since Eomer's #538.