Hurt & Heal V: Ainur (non-Valar) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thinlómien · 04-27-2009, 12:43 PM

If we have the hyper-favourites Saruman and Sauron, I think we should have Gandalf too, just to be fair.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-27-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

If we have the hyper-favourites Saruman and Sauron, I think we should have Gandalf too, just to be fair.

That's what I thought too: especially Sauron and Gandalf are just everywhere and everybody is voting them. Shouldn't we then just keep them out of that? Just so to prevent the all too obvious guys from winning again, which certainly would be quite boring.

Aganzir · 04-27-2009, 01:08 PM

Don't worry Legate - we have Nog.

Lalaith · 04-27-2009, 02:51 PM

I'm sorry people, I'm not convinced AT all that Ungoliant is of the Maiar. I also think we should keep Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron out of this.

Thinlómien · 04-27-2009, 02:53 PM

I actually agree with Lalaith here. Those three have been in enough competitions before...

the phantom · 04-27-2009, 03:04 PM

If either Gandalf or Sauron had actually won a contest, I would say yes, keep them out.

But seeing as we're eventually going to have a Tournament of Champions (the people on the list will be previous winners) it seems a shame not to include characters and deny them the chance to win.

Gandalf and Sauron won't be able to be in the Elf, Man, Dwarf, Evil Minion, Female, weapons/armor, or Valar contest, so I don't think it'd be fair to keep them out of this contest that they actually qualify for.

And Ungolient is fine because this isn't a Maia contest. It's open to all the Ainur who were not among the Valar.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-27-2009, 03:25 PM

Well, phanston, I guess Lalaith's point might as well have been that Ungoliant is not Ainu at all. But I am fine with considering her as an Ainu, or even as a Maia.

But Gandalf and Sauron are too much, in my opinion. Curumo is still yet okay, he is a bit on the edge, but I think there might be some considerably strong clique against him. But these two guys... no way. Haven't they been in the first one, or something like that?

04-27-2009, 12:43 PM	#1
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	If we have the hyper-favourites Saruman and Sauron, I think we should have Gandalf too, just to be fair. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

04-27-2009, 01:08 PM	#3
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Don't worry Legate - we have Nog. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

04-27-2009, 02:51 PM	#4
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	I'm sorry people, I'm not convinced AT all that Ungoliant is of the Maiar. I also think we should keep Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron out of this. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

04-27-2009, 02:53 PM	#5
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	I actually agree with Lalaith here. Those three have been in enough competitions before... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

04-27-2009, 03:04 PM	#6
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	If either Gandalf or Sauron had actually won a contest, I would say yes, keep them out. But seeing as we're eventually going to have a Tournament of Champions (the people on the list will be previous winners) it seems a shame not to include characters and deny them the chance to win. Gandalf and Sauron won't be able to be in the Elf, Man, Dwarf, Evil Minion, Female, weapons/armor, or Valar contest, so I don't think it'd be fair to keep them out of this contest that they actually qualify for. And Ungolient is fine because this isn't a Maia contest. It's open to all the Ainur who were not among the Valar. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

04-27-2009, 03:25 PM	#7
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well, phanston, I guess Lalaith's point might as well have been that Ungoliant is not Ainu at all. But I am fine with considering her as an Ainu, or even as a Maia. But Gandalf and Sauron are too much, in my opinion. Curumo is still yet okay, he is a bit on the edge, but I think there might be some considerably strong clique against him. But these two guys... no way. Haven't they been in the first one, or something like that? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories