6 Degrees of Separation - Page 36 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thinlómien · 04-21-2009, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Andsigil

Hmmm... I can't seem to recall Thorondor meeting Glorfindel, but it's possible they met at Gondolin, I suppose.

Thorondor saved Glorfindel's body after the fight with the balrog...

Thuringwethil -> Bilbo

Nerwen · 04-21-2009, 05:31 AM

Thuringwethil–Sauron-Gollum-Bilbo.

Or is that too lazy?

Thinlómien · 04-21-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Thuringwethil–Sauron-Gollum-Bilbo.

Or is that too lazy?

Aiaiai, it's pretty lazy.

But I'll accept it, you were smarter than me.

I was thinking Thuringwethil -> Lúthien -> Mandos -> Nienna -> Gandalf -> Bilbo.

Please take the thread.

Nerwen · 04-21-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Aiaiai, it's pretty lazy.

But I'll accept it, you were smarter than me.

I was thinking Thuringwethil -> Lúthien -> Mandos -> Nienna -> Gandalf -> Bilbo.

You can also have Thuringwethil– Lúthien– Melian– Galadriel– Anyone in the Fellowship– Bilbo.

So I had that in reserve.

Nerwen · 04-21-2009, 11:01 PM

All right, I've thought of one.

Tilion => Mîm.

Beregond · 04-21-2009, 11:30 PM

Is it a stretch to say Tilion > Melian > Beleg > Mîm?

Nerwen · 04-22-2009, 12:38 AM

Sorry. Try again.

Andsigil · 04-22-2009, 04:07 AM

Tilion - Arien - Morgoth- Glaurung - Turin - Mim

Nerwen · 04-22-2009, 04:29 AM

Ah, now that works (obviously), but I forgot to specify that it's five steps maximum. Sorry about that.

Hmmn... I'll give it to you anyway, Andsigil, as your way is quite clever (and completely different from mine). Would you like to have a try at the shorter path, just for the exercise?

Andsigil · 04-22-2009, 02:18 PM

Okay, 5 moves.... How about:

Tilion - Orome - Thingol - Turin - Mim?

Nerwen · 04-22-2009, 07:55 PM

Please take the thread.

Andsigil · 04-22-2009, 09:50 PM

I'm beginning to realize that solving these puzzles is easier than making them...

How about: Lossoth Chief > Elphir

Nerwen · 04-22-2009, 10:40 PM

Er... how about you tell me who Elphir is?

Andsigil · 04-22-2009, 11:04 PM

Certainly.

Elphir was the twenty-third Prince of Dol Amroth. He was the oldest son of Prince Imrahil.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-23-2009, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Andsigil

I'm beginning to realize that solving these puzzles is easier than making them...

How about: Lossoth Chief > Elphir

Yes, it is. Well, if you try to be a tad nasty about it.

Lossoth Chief -> Arvedui -> (Aranarth ->) Elrond -> Aragorn -> Imrahil -> Elphir

(Hm, vzv, Nerwen, using Sauron or Gandalf is illegal in this thread.

See first post.)

Nerwen · 04-23-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Lossoth Chief -> Arvedui -> (Aranarth ->) Elrond -> Aragorn -> Imrahil -> Elphir

But do we know for certain that Elrond and Arvedui met?

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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Hm, vzv, Nerwen, using Sauron or Gandalf is illegal in this thread.

See first post.)

It's not illegal, Nilp, just not recommended. That's why I asked if my way was too lazy– but Lommy's had Gandalf in it anyway. And you'll see that I had a Plan B that didn't use either of them.

yourself.

Andsigil · 04-23-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

But do we know for certain that Elrond and Arvedui met?

I checked before posting this and, while it's not implausible, I couldn't find any evidence that they had actually met. Same with Arvedui and Cirdan.

Still open.

Ibrîniðilpathânezel · 04-23-2009, 06:23 PM

Would

Lossoth Chief -> Arvedui -> Witch King -> Aragorn -> Imrahil -> Elphir

work? Not that I want to take the thread... my brain is a tad cooked when it comes to inspiration, at the moment.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-23-2009, 11:16 PM

I did put in Aranarth there. *pouts* Or is it too long with him in there?

Andsigil · 04-24-2009, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibrîniðilpathânezel

Would

Lossoth Chief -> Arvedui -> Witch King -> Aragorn -> Imrahil -> Elphir

work? Not that I want to take the thread... my brain is a tad cooked when it comes to inspiration, at the moment.

That's the path I had! Your turn.

Was that one difficult? I had a devil of a time thinking that one up.

Ibrîniðilpathânezel · 04-24-2009, 08:21 AM

Well, as I said, my brain's a tad cooked, so the best I came up with is:

Ulmo -> Sam

Who are rather opposite types, given Sam's fear of water. When I thought of the more convoluted way, I realized there's a very short way as well. Drat.

Nerwen · 04-24-2009, 08:38 AM

Ulmo– Ossë– Círdan– Sam?

Ibrîniðilpathânezel · 04-24-2009, 06:01 PM

That's more or less the easy route. Ulmo -> Cirdan -> Sam (since we know that Ulmo spoke directly to Cirdan when he asked him to remain in ME, and Cirdan remained "deep in the counsels" of Ulmo and Osse). My original thought was a bit less direct, though you may certainly take the thread if you like.

Nerwen · 04-24-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrîniðilpathânezel

That's more or less the easy route. Ulmo -> Cirdan -> Sam (since we know that Ulmo spoke directly to Cirdan when he asked him to remain in ME, and Cirdan remained "deep in the counsels" of Ulmo and Osse). My original thought was a bit less direct, though you may certainly take the thread if you like.

Ah. I didn't have the book with me, and I couldn't remember if Ulmo ever spoke to Círdan in person, so I threw in Ossë to be on the safe side.

Out of curiosity, was the other route anything like Ulmo– Tuor– Eärendil– Elrond– Sam?

Anyway, how about

Finduilas of Nargothrond => Finduilas of Dol Amroth?

Ibrîniðilpathânezel · 04-24-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Ah. I didn't have the book with me, and I could remember if Ulmo ever spoke to Círdan in person, so I threw in Ossë to be on the safe side.

Out of curiosity, was the other route anything like Ulmo– Tuor– Eärendil– Elrond– Sam?[/B]

Yep. There was also a possibility of Ulmo > Tuor > Glorfindel > Sam, but that's supposing Tuor and Glorfindel met, outside of Glorfindel saving Tuor and family when he killed the Balrog. And supposing Tolkien really had made up his mind about the two Glorfindels being the same person.

skip spence · 04-25-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Anyway, how about

Finduilas of Nargothrond => Finduilas of Dol Amroth?

Finduilas of Nargothrond => Galadriel => Aragorn => Denethor => Finduilas of Dol Amroth

You could insert Orodreth ahead of Galadriel but Finduilas and Galadriel must have known each other well from Nargothrond.

Nerwen · 04-25-2009, 01:23 AM

I'll give it to you, Skip... but see if you can make the path shorter. (Hint: one person can replace Aragorn and Denethor).

skip spence · 04-25-2009, 01:43 AM

Imrahil? He met Galadriel I suppose...

Alright, let's see then Yavanna -> Bert the Troll

(And there's no indication that Gandalf/Olorin ever met Yavanna)

Nerwen · 04-25-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by skip spence

Imrahil? He met Galadriel I suppose...

Possibly; I was thinking of someone more pivotal to the story than Imrahil, and who definitely met Galadriel.

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Originally Posted by skip spence

, let's see then Yavanna -> Bert the Troll

(And there's no indication that Gandalf/Olorin ever met Yavanna)

Yavanna– Aulë– Saruman– Frodo– Bilbo– Bert?

skip spence · 04-25-2009, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Possibly, I was thinking of someone more pivotal to the story than Imrahil, and who definitely met Galadriel.

Faramir, then? But I can't think of an instance when he met Galadriel, apart from at the wedding of Arwen and Aragorn...

Edit: It should be Boromir of course! How did I not think of him!?

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Yavanna– Aulë– Saruman– Frodo– Bilbo– Bert?

I'll allow that, although I'm not too happy with the Aulë-Saruman connection (sure he was originally a Maia of Aulë, but there's no written evidence they met)

Nerwen · 04-25-2009, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by skip spence

Faramir, then? But I can't think of an instance when he met Galadriel, apart from at the wedding of Arwen and Aragorn...

Edit: It should be Boromir of course! How did I not think of him!?

*shrugs* Because he's too obvious, maybe?

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Originally Posted by skip spence

I'll allow that, although I'm not too happy with the Aulë-Saruman connection (sure he was originally a Maia of Aulë, but there's no written evidence they met)

Ahem.

Quote:

But two only came forward: Curumo [i.e. Saruman], who was chosen by Aulë...

Unfinished Tales, "The Istari".

I think that's good enough, don't you?

So, what was your way?

skip spence · 04-25-2009, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

I think that's good enough, don't you?

You're right as usual. I bow my head.

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So, what was your way?

Hm. Think I had a Yavanna - Maedros - Elrond connection in mind, as Maedros brought the news of the murder of Finwë to the Valar, with Y present.

The thread is yours!

Andsigil · 05-03-2009, 01:38 PM

*bump*

Nerwen · 05-03-2009, 09:21 PM

Sorry, I'll think of something.

Beregond · 05-26-2009, 11:40 AM

*bumpity bump bump*

Nerwen · 05-26-2009, 04:46 PM

You can take this thread if you like; I'm busy right now.

Andsigil · 06-10-2009, 04:25 AM

Anyone up for bringing this game back?

Andsigil · 07-08-2009, 03:26 PM

*bump*

Hello?

Nerwen · 08-12-2009, 06:00 AM

Sure. You want to go first?

Andsigil · 08-14-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Sure. You want to go first?

Okay, how about:

Eöl -> Shagrat

04-21-2009, 05:31 AM	#1402
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Thuringwethil–Sauron-Gollum-Bilbo. Or is that too lazy? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-21-2009, 11:01 PM	#1405
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	All right, I've thought of one. Tilion => Mîm. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-21-2009, 11:30 PM	#1406
Beregond Playful Ghoul Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,251	Is it a stretch to say Tilion > Melian > Beleg > Mîm? __________________ "Hope and memory shall live still in some hidden valley where the grass is green."

04-22-2009, 12:38 AM	#1407
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Sorry. Try again. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo. Last edited by Nerwen; 04-22-2009 at 12:39 AM. Reason: adding a smiley

04-22-2009, 04:07 AM	#1408
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Tilion - Arien - Morgoth- Glaurung - Turin - Mim __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

04-22-2009, 04:29 AM	#1409
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Ah, now that works (obviously), but I forgot to specify that it's five steps maximum. Sorry about that. Hmmn... I'll give it to you anyway, Andsigil, as your way is quite clever (and completely different from mine). Would you like to have a try at the shorter path, just for the exercise? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-22-2009, 02:18 PM	#1410
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Okay, 5 moves.... How about: Tilion - Orome - Thingol - Turin - Mim? __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

04-22-2009, 07:55 PM	#1411
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Please take the thread. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-22-2009, 09:50 PM	#1412
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	I'm beginning to realize that solving these puzzles is easier than making them... How about: Lossoth Chief > Elphir __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

04-22-2009, 10:40 PM	#1413
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Help... Er... how about you tell me who Elphir is? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-22-2009, 11:04 PM	#1414
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Certainly. Elphir was the twenty-third Prince of Dol Amroth. He was the oldest son of Prince Imrahil. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

04-23-2009, 06:23 PM	#1418
Ibrîniðilpathânezel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the Helcaraxe Posts: 733	Would Lossoth Chief -> Arvedui -> Witch King -> Aragorn -> Imrahil -> Elphir work? Not that I want to take the thread... my brain is a tad cooked when it comes to inspiration, at the moment. __________________ Call me Ibrin (or Ibri) :) Originality is the one thing that unoriginal minds cannot feel the use of. — John Stewart Mill

04-23-2009, 11:16 PM	#1419
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	I did put in Aranarth there. pouts Or is it too long with him in there? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-24-2009, 08:21 AM	#1421
Ibrîniðilpathânezel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the Helcaraxe Posts: 733	Well, as I said, my brain's a tad cooked, so the best I came up with is: Ulmo -> Sam Who are rather opposite types, given Sam's fear of water. When I thought of the more convoluted way, I realized there's a very short way as well. Drat. __________________ Call me Ibrin (or Ibri) :) Originality is the one thing that unoriginal minds cannot feel the use of. — John Stewart Mill

04-24-2009, 08:38 AM	#1422
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Ulmo– Ossë– Círdan– Sam? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-24-2009, 06:01 PM	#1423
Ibrîniðilpathânezel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the Helcaraxe Posts: 733	That's more or less the easy route. Ulmo -> Cirdan -> Sam (since we know that Ulmo spoke directly to Cirdan when he asked him to remain in ME, and Cirdan remained "deep in the counsels" of Ulmo and Osse). My original thought was a bit less direct, though you may certainly take the thread if you like. __________________ Call me Ibrin (or Ibri) :) Originality is the one thing that unoriginal minds cannot feel the use of. — John Stewart Mill

04-25-2009, 01:23 AM	#1427
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	I'll give it to you, Skip... but see if you can make the path shorter. (Hint: one person can replace Aragorn and Denethor). __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-25-2009, 01:43 AM	#1428
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Imrahil? He met Galadriel I suppose... Alright, let's see then Yavanna -> Bert the Troll (And there's no indication that Gandalf/Olorin ever met Yavanna) __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

05-03-2009, 01:38 PM	#1433
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	bump __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

05-03-2009, 09:21 PM	#1434
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Sorry, I'll think of something. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-26-2009, 11:40 AM	#1435
Beregond Playful Ghoul Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,251	bumpity bump bump __________________ "Hope and memory shall live still in some hidden valley where the grass is green."

05-26-2009, 04:46 PM	#1436
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	You can take this thread if you like; I'm busy right now. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-10-2009, 04:25 AM	#1437
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Anyone up for bringing this game back? __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

07-08-2009, 03:26 PM	#1438
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	bump Hello? __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

08-12-2009, 06:00 AM	#1439
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Sure. You want to go first? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.