Game Thread: Werewolf- this time it's real!

[Lariren Shadow]

So the wolves killed off the cobbler for us? Epic win for the village!

Originally Posted by Kent2010

Before I go to bed I would like to point out the tri-fecta who have subtetly through vague suspicions have been offering me up as a lynch candidate.

Lari
Sally
Nilp

I would add Brinn but well she's dead now. I know it's entirely possible Gwath and Greenie could be baddie and defending me. But, out of the 3 (and 4 if you were to include Brinn) Lari and Sally have voted for me, but have not made me a serious candidate as they have not spent any bonus on me. Despite the persistent feeling of uneasiness I give them, and being Nilp's 'secret' suspect? I don't know it just feels like either one or two of them will lynch me with the snap of a finger if they have the oppurtunity.

Ok, that's all. Good night.

Just because I haven't spent any bonus votes on you doesn't mean I don't think you are a serious candidate. At the time I didn't want to use my bonus votes till later. And I still consider you a suspect. In fact this post is kind of suspicious in the whole "well obviously the people who suspect me are evil" thing. I don't like the way it sounds.

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

In her #470 she said she was saving her bonus votes until she was really sure of someone's guilt. Yet in her #581, it seems her top suspicions are Kent, Nog, and Shasta - which she puts under the label "Probably Guilty". She then votes for Nog and adds bonus votes under the reason "I feel like I should be using some of my bonus votes toDay". Afterwards she says "I'm glad I made that list earlier then rushed around all day."

Unless I am mistaken, "probably guilty" and "really sure of someone's guilt" are not the same thing, nor are they entirely close to the same thing. Her statement of making the list earlier, gives an air of "meh, I'm not concerned".

Now, is she a confuzzled Ordo or one of the Three who succumbed to Nog's intentions of pressure to get them to use their bonus votes?

I don't know who is guilty, so therefore I called them "probably guilty". As for the whole "yay I had my list done" thing: I did it earlier, I ended up being away from my computer for most of the Day, came back with less than a half an hour to vote and such and was glad that I had the list done and my suspicions were still the same. And yes I did feel like I should use some bonus votes, it was just a feeling and I didn't like at all how I was feeling about Nog.

[Kent2010]

Just because I haven't spent any bonus votes on you doesn't mean I don't think you are a serious candidate. At the time I didn't want to use my bonus votes till later. And I still consider you a suspect. In fact this post is kind of suspicious in the whole "well obviously the people who suspect me are evil" thing. I don't like the way it sounds.
-Lariren

I'm a 'rat,' a 'secret suspect,' and I give general feelings of 'uneasiness' hardly inspire innocence, especially when it comes from four different people. It looks like an attempt to offer me up as a lynch possibility as soon as the chance arises. Basically I consider any three of you votes against me waiting to happen.

What you did not note is that I have not excluded Greenie and Gwath as possible wolves who support me. But at this stage in the game, I'm trying to narrow down the field as much as possible.

I will not vote for Formendacil, Fea, or Gwath, because them being evil just doesn't make sense. Maybe they are sneaks, that's possible, but the evidence does not line up for them being wolves.

I am going to take a close look at Greenie today, as I have not reached any kind of decision on her - same for Isabellyka. I just found it interesting how four different people say I make them feel uneasy, yet do not make any specifications how. One of those persons turned up a baddie, so why not suspect the other three? Also, you have taken what I said too far, because I did not say all three of you are automatically wolves, I said one or two of you are slyly offering me up as a possibility waiting for a chance to lynch me, and so yes, one or two of you I think is a baddie. As lets be honest I am probably one of the easiest targets left, I have the least bonus votes remaining and I make a significant number of the remaining villagers, for some unclarified reason 'uneasy.'

[Shastanis Althreduin]

For reasons I'm not going to post on the thread right now, I can't post anything of substance at the moment. Just know that I've read the thread, yay CobblerBrinn's dead, and have a few views on Greenie and Sally I'd like to share as well as reiterating my suspicion of Gwath. I will post at the soonest opportunity.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Kent

I just found it interesting how four different people say I make them feel uneasy, yet do not make any specifications how. One of those persons turned up a baddie, so why not suspect the other three?

Actually, if that was to point to some direction I'd say it points to the exact opposite. It can be highly risky for wolves to have the exact same suspicions.

I need to vote very soon, I'm not sure who to vote, and the silence makes me wary. Where is everyone?

[A Little Green]

I - don't - like - this - silence.

I would have liked to take a look at Nilp and/or Izzy. I couldn't because of reasons I believe I'm not allowed to state on this thread. The way things stand I think I'll vote

++ Sally

[Kent2010]

++Nilp (+2)

Actually, if that was to point to some direction I'd say it points to the exact opposite. It can be highly risky for wolves to have the exact same suspicions.
-Greenie

But you can't expect me to think all three off them have innocent intentions

[Isabellkya]

Oh dear.
I really expected there to be much to read through after giving the entire bar a thorough cleaning. Good news, I find some mice and humanely tossed them out the bathroom window.

That explanation Lari, I've got to be honest sounds hogwashy.
Not liking how you feel about someone, doesn't seem to be on the same level as "really sure of someone's guilt".

I'm not buying it.
The only slice of pie which equals to you not being a wolf or Vampire is your seeming lack of activity. I think if you were a wolf or Vamp, you'd be much more active.
Then again, I don't know. But I think that is about all that speaks in your favor of being innocent.

Care to give a reason towards your voting of Nilp, Kent?



I didn't have any uneasy feelings towards you before Kent, save what I said yesterday in regards to the distraction which the newbie discussion proved.
Yet, lately all that I've seen from you - is continual defense of yourself. Suspecting others because they suspect you.

As you said, you'd be an easy lynch. So why would "numerous" people need to be sneaky in their ways of trying to get you lynched? Why would the Three need to stage some kind of sneaky, back door coup to get you lynched?

Perhaps, they are keeping you around until closer to the end? Maybe whispers here and there? Who knows, really.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Kent, you say I'm a Wolf?

Go ahead, bring it on. I'll take you down with me.

[Isabellkya]

I think a glove smacking should be involved here.
Much more dramatic flair I think.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

As you wish, m'lady.

*is taking gloves off* Hmmm . . . why I get the sinking feeling that you two planned this?

(Oh, vy ze whey, will the real Finrod please not speak up? Hehe.)

[Isabellkya]

Ahaha.
This pub gets lousy YouTube results.
Otherwise I would've find a fitting video.
I thought Monty Python had one.
I know Homer Simpson does.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

All right, so we have:

• two innocents cleared by Lúthien;
• hoping Lúthien's last dream transmitted to an ordo (perhaps innocent); and
• hoping that Finrod is not one of the aforementioned.

That means we have possibly four known innocents, that's half of the village.

Ah, but this bonus votes issue is skewing majority voting. >.< I'm hoping to have you four eliminate the four unknowns, so we'll have a 75% chance of getting one of the baddies.

What if we all agree not to use our bonus votes toDAY? Hmmm . . .

Oh, darn, it's a bad DAY for us if we have to resort to plans like this to have a chance of winning. It's like being forced to use your Encircled Terrain before he uses his Desperate Wager. (And you don't even know if the other side has anti-terrain meta.) >.<

[Kent2010]

Go ahead, bring it on. I'll take you down with me.
-Nilp

I'm all for a 1 for 1 exchange.

Why would he need to make the wolves feel they escaped a bullet?
-Isabellyka

I don't know why Formendacil did what he did, you can ask him afterwards. But, he was not completely lying when he said he didn't have a dream the prior night, because he wouldn't get the message when he transmits. He had no idea, but you should notice he trusted my Nilp vote, and did not vote for Sally, eventhough he appeared more suspicious about her.

Why not come out yesterDay with the passed on dream result?
On what, Nilp? Green?. You've never specified.
Would've saved Sally from death. Would put us in a better position toDay.

I needed more information. I couldn't just spill the beans immediately, everyone would jump on the bandwagon and we'd get nothing out of it. And based on the joke action we've had the past couple days, I was going to try and get whatever additional information I could by putting Nilp under pressure. The two bonus votes I added towards the end, I wasn't concerned about Thuringwethil, I wanted to see who and how far people would go to save him.

I can only assume the three feel they have a strong amount of bonus and thought it didn't matter if they blatantly save Nilp.

As far as Sally, I wrongfully assumed she was going to use her bonus to save herself.

Edit: I deleted my message above this, because I had accidentally hit "enter/post" in the middle of typing - I didn't change any words promise, just added the rest of what I wanted to say

[Kent2010]

What if we all agree not to use our bonus votes toDAY? Hmmm . . .
-Nilp

I was going to suggest we dump them all, and that means everyone, we dump all bonus and that way we get a clean slate and may the best side win.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Let me get this straight--Kent, are you saying that Form sent you his dream about me, and I was a Wolf in it?

Is there a secret thing here about muddling the Lúthien dream?

This is why I've been rather heated when discussing this thing with you. I know what I am, and I know you are false when you are accusing me otherwise.

Please get vendetta out of this game. Otherwise I'll just get myself modfired and hand the Wolves the victory.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

If you can get blind rage out of your senses you can see I'm the only one toDAY who's been pondering how we can survive this DAY.

Green being innocent helps; let's just hope that Shasta and Gwath are both not evil.

I'll leave it to Finrod if he'll heed my plan in 773. But the good side needs direction in their votes.

z.B. if Shasta is our Finrod, then:

Innocent:
Fea
Green
Kent
Shasta

Unknown:
Gwath
Izzy
Lari
Nilp

Then just proceed to lynch one of the unknown, without using bonus votes. But if one of them struggles (uses bonus votes), then have at xim, and force xim to draw out xyr allies.