WWLVIII: Escape From Angband (or Behavioral Modification) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Durelin · 03-25-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

I do think the evidence points heavily towards Mith being the phantom's apprentice

But what evidence is there other than her suggesting she is? The duck (ducks only if you count her suggestions that Nienna was a duck and if wilwa was killed by the phantom's apprentice and if she is the pa...) she claims to have 'delivered' to us were suspected and lynched based on suspicion unless there is more going on behind the scenes than I know of...well I know there is but I don't think everyone who voted for Lommy and Nienna knew they were wolves or voted for them on Mith's orders.

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Originally Posted by Gwath

Mith - Phantom's apprentice, I think. Why else would she still be alive?

Do you know something we (or at least I) don't? If she's what she claims to be, a wolf delivery system, then wouldn't the wolves want her dead?

Maybe they did think/know that they couldn't kill her. I don't know. And I wonder why some people seem to.

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Originally Posted by Mith

Everyone has their own agenda.... I think mine shall now be to be amuse the Modesses but it will have to be later now....

Are you done 'delivering' ducks then?

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Originally Posted by Nog

So Nilp is a cobbler or a demonical killler waiting to be triggered by our attempt to kill him.

I'm a bit more open-minded than that. It's Nilp. He's good at getting you to 'ignore' him until he's the last one standing.

A possibility is that he is actually a day hunter (will be able to hunt the person of his choice when he is lynched). The question is if he is on our side or not.

He does still seem to be claiming here and there that he is the phantom's apprentice, though.

Really I would not mind getting rid of Nilp or Rikae because I'm not sure if we can remain sane with both of them around.

Lari seems the most straight-forwardly wolfish to me in her cautious behavior and her voting record. This is hardly a straight-forward game but I'm not sure what else to go on.

Nogrod is just naturally starting to bother me, I'm afraid. Really I am all for lynching him and Mac for taking the fibonacci sequence thing and running with it...especially since you then declare in your next post, Nog, that Nilp is probably just a cobbler.

I'm not sure why Fea chose to use her retraction so quickly. Boredom, I guess?

Really need to go do some work...argh.

Edit: crossed with Nilp, Rikae, Fea

Rikae · 03-25-2009, 10:39 AM

Oh, something just occurred to me about Mith "delivering ducks" ....

Rikae · 03-25-2009, 10:44 AM

I think I know who all the ducks in the village at this moment are. Lot of good it does the village, though.

*keeps mouth shut*

Rikae · 03-25-2009, 10:46 AM

M mom and I were just discussing psychiatrists, and she said "oh, I think they're all quacks".

Macalaure · 03-25-2009, 10:57 AM

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Really I am all for lynching him and Mac for taking the fibonacci sequence thing and running with it.

Who? Me? No way! Nilp started it! Nilp started it!

It seems to me that Rikae, Mith, Fea, and Nilp are really playing their own game. I don't know what they're about and I'm not going to vote for either. I'll stay with regular people who claim to be ordos. I was successful twice this way already. Right now, I'm leaning towards voting Kath, but the day is still fairly young.

Durelin · 03-25-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

I think I know who all the ducks in the village at this moment are. Lot of good it does the village, though.

*keeps mouth shut*

Aw, c'mon. Do tell. No one will believe you anyway.

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Originally Posted by Mac

It seems to me that Rikae, Mith, Fea, and Nilp are really playing their own game. I don't know what they're about and I'm not going to vote for either.

I just don't know how long we can just 'ignore' them...while spending so much time wondering what the heck they're up to. ><

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-25-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Durelin

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

It seems to me that Rikae, Mith, Fea, and Nilp are really playing their own game. I don't know what they're about and I'm not going to vote for either.

I just don't know how long we can just 'ignore' them...while spending so much time wondering what the heck they're up to. ><

Stats:

At least 75% of the aforementioned have special purposes, so to speak.
At least 25% of them are evil.
I like pie.

Mithalwen · 03-25-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Durelin

Are you done 'delivering' ducks then?

I am if I am lynched... I was going all out for the village but maybe now it isn't about good an evil, it is about who is nice to me....

Talk about killing the goose that lays the golden eggs...

Macalaure · 03-25-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Durelin

I just don't know how long we can just 'ignore' them...while spending so much time wondering what the heck they're up to. ><

Chances are, they will annihilate each other within the next two days.

In any case, they will soon be fewer. Given some time, and maybe more info, we will be better able to tell who (of the remaining) is what. In any case they're not all evil, and I'd rather not lynch a gifted.

You people clearly post too much! How is one supposed to keep up with reading?

Mithalwen · 03-25-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

You people clearly post too much! How is one supposed to keep up with reading?

Noggin is quiet - especially since he has no competition ... I bet he has a daily quota of posts LOL. Not sure there are many others in compatible time zones.... Kath of course ... but that is it for this hemisphere and side of the pond as far as I know....

satansaloser2005 · 03-25-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Noggin is quiet - especially since he has no competition ... I bet he has a daily quota of posts LOL. Not sure there are many others in compatible time zones.... Kath of course ... but that is it for this hemisphere and side of the pond as far as I know....

Hmmmm. Noggie is busy toDay, if I'm not mistaken.

EDIT: No wait, that was yesterday. Crap, I'm silly.

Rikae · 03-25-2009, 01:21 PM

After I called Lommy "feathered" (in reference to her personal title), Nienna commented about me hitting the nail on the head.

I voted for you because your comments about Lommy (who I already had decided was a duck) looked seerish. I'm not in the duck-voting game.

Macalaure · 03-25-2009, 01:22 PM

So you're a cobbler who votes for the person you think is a seer every day?

Nogrod · 03-25-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

I voted for you because your comments about Lommy (who I already had decided was a duck) looked seerish. I'm not in the duck-voting game.

Okay now we're starting to play it tough, right?

So basically everyone is free to come up with whichever-kind of a fantastic role their imgination allows and we just have no clue whether it could be true or not...

I mean that would make sense. But if you're in here to pick seers then we should lynch you immediately before you "hit the nail in the head". Or is that just what you want as you're the dark side of the phantom's apprentice?

Mithalwen · 03-25-2009, 01:04 PM

Ooh that shut them up....

Well I shall talk to myself.

Observations.

Fea is being restrained. This is a clear indication that she is responsible for something or too something. As an ordo she gets terribly bored and is absolutely no holds barred. I don't think as an ordo she would be so concerned with what ever restriction she is under.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-25-2009, 01:05 PM

I'm not suited for this.

Maybe I'll just sic Adam on you tomorrow.

Anyway, let's do more lists:

Feanor of the Peredhil: Used nominative pronouns. Is dead. (Not a threat, a statement.)
Durelin: Has delivered fowl words, and should be lynched.
Nogrod: Has the temerity to imagine me to be the Cobbler. Pfft. Imagine that. Will be killed toNIGHT.
Isabellkya: Can't distinguish between natural Cobblery and Cobblery to cover Avian behaviour.
Nerwen: Should cheer more. I'll let her live. For now.
Rikae: Is stealing my limelight. Lynch.
Mithalwen: Is my dearest mum. Is stealing my role. (Or am I stealing hers? )
Kath: Is quiet. Has not posted today. Lynch.
Lariren Shadow: Knows too much about Duck formations. Lynch.
Macalaure: Took Fibonacci sequence seriously, albeit in the wrong direction. I'll keep him.
Gwathagor: Wants to lynch me. Go ahead punk, make my day. *squints*
Nilpaurion Felagund: Will be dead tomorrow . . . to be replaced by Adam.

Rikae · 03-25-2009, 01:06 PM

Hm. Those ducks weren't lynched because of Mith, but because they were obviously ducks. Well, I thought Lommy might be the seer momentarily, but then Nienna made a comment that made it clear they were both in the "flock" together. I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed that.

So if Mith is "delivering" ducks, she's doing so in a way we don't want. Either she's part of a growing flock, throwing the others to the village to make herself look good, or she is actually causing the flock to grow somehow.

Therefore:

++Macalaure

Mithalwen · 03-25-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Hm. Those ducks weren't lynched because of Mith, but because they were obviously ducks. Well, I thought Lommy might be the seer momentarily, but then Nienna made a comment that made it clear they were both in the "flock" together. I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed that.

So if Mith is "delivering" ducks, she's doing so in a way we don't want. Either she's part of a growing flock, throwing the others to the village to make herself look good, or she is actually causing the flock to grow somehow.

Therefore:

++Macalaure

This is just the funniest post of the whole game.

don't suppose you would care to illustrate how they were obviously ducks, and point out Nienna's comment?

Or to explain why you voted for me when Nienna was so obviously a duck?

Nogrod · 03-25-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

So if Mith is "delivering" ducks, she's doing so in a way we don't want. Either she's part of a growing flock, throwing the others to the village to make herself look good, or she is actually causing the flock to grow somehow.

Or might it be you who are doing it? (the bolded thing I mean) Interesting you came up with such a role to this game just by yourself...

A nice detail: you said you knew who the ducks were. Of course you know then...

The more I think of that the more credible it starts to look like. You Rikae are the spawner of the ducks around here - and you count on us not daring to lynch you because you promise us fire and brimstone or looking more like a cobbler wishing herself lynched. I mean in a way you do those both at the same time - at least you did so yesterDay as I remarked already then.

It becomes anyway much more symmetric and more neat this way as well.

The baddies have a duck-giver, we have a duck-killer.

One of the weird roles (Mith) at least started good - and the other (Nilp) then started bad.

Now whether Mith by her Nightly deed of saving us from a kill stayed a goodie or turned into neutrality - or even to evil - is something we don't know. And what would happen if Nilp was lynched I'm not too happy to try out.

Mithalwen · 03-25-2009, 03:59 PM

Why do you think Nilp is evil? Nilp is being Nilp and a good son.... Rikae is a distraction.... And Nogrod .... more constructive to look at my days than speculate about my nights....

Gwathagor · 03-25-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

The more I think of that the more credible it starts to look like. You Rikae are the spawner of the ducks around here - and you count on us not daring to lynch you because you promise us fire and brimstone or looking more like a cobbler wishing herself lynched. I mean in a way you do those both at the same time - at least you did so yesterDay as I remarked already then.

It becomes anyway much more symmetric and more neat this way as well.

The baddies have a duck-giver, we have a duck-killer.

One of the weird roles (Mith) at least started good - and the other (Nilp) then started bad.

Now whether Mith by her Nightly deed of saving us from a kill stayed a goodie or turned into neutrality - or even to evil - is something we don't know. And what would happen if Nilp was lynched I'm not too happy to try out.

Why do you think that the number of ducks is growing, and that it wasn't just high to begin with? And why don't you want to lynch Nilp?

Nogrod · 03-25-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Why do you think that the number of ducks is growing, and that it wasn't just high to begin with? And why don't you want to lynch Nilp?

Relevant questions.

Now it all began yesterday - I had indeed forgotten about it, but after Day2 I had written myself some points I should have to remember to think of on Day3 if I were still alive. The last thing I had written down was the following: "The number of ducks increases unless the mother goose is eliminated?". It came back to me when I saw Rikae's post about Mith spawning new ducks. I went back to look at the last moments of Day2 to finally find the piece that triggered the idea. It's indeed from Sally's narration.

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Originally Posted by SallyGod

Early in the Morning, before most of the village had even considered getting up, the were-ducks and their duckess-in-chief Mnemo met to discuss strategy for the Day. When Mnemo joined the band of baddies she heard Wilwa and another feather-faced female joking about Legate's body, which had started to sprout cucumber plants. She recognized Nienna in the Dawn light and approached the group, smacking Nienna on the shoulder to get her attention.

“Let's get down to business, make the village gone
Did they send me hatchlings when I asked for swans?
You're the saddest player I ever met
But you can bet before we're through
Nienna, I'll make a duck out of you”

So someone sent a hatchling-Nienna to the ranks of Mnemo the arch-duckess (should we lynch her indeed?

) during Night2? That was the idea I had yesterday. Now it looks like Rikae is just fitting that role only too well.

About Nilp then. He's almost too keen to get himself lynched and it feels foul. It also fits the kind of symmetry-requirement every mod feels tempted to lay on her/his game.

But more telling is, I think, his behaviour yesterDay. He only started his frantic show after wilwa was dead but Mith had already hinted about her abilities before that. Also it seems he has been all the time trying to get himself killed before wilwa's death by speaking merely nonsense, but after it he took stronger measures coming up with all these: "I'm leaving everything to my minions", "Fear me!", "You haven't killed a single fuzzy wuzzy wolfie yet", the "Fibonacci Sequence" and all that... and after getting the second vote there was this (Fea's vote post quoted in the post): "Just . . . one . . . more".

So he tried to mess with us, tried to cease the moment and achieve something with it. Counting on us killing him just out of pure annoyance and messing things up?

But if he really has some magical powers as the flashing light (and the most probable killer of wilwa in bright daylight - which I still believe is Mith with all the evidence mainly relating to her tp-fever of two first Days which suddenly died after the Night-action) had, then I would not wish to try and see what powers he would gain after we lynched him.

Isabellkya · 03-25-2009, 04:04 PM

I don't think ducks are spawning, or growing for that matter.
Simply cobblerisms. Picked up by paranoia... insanity? Fed by further cobblerisms.
The End.

X'd with Gwath.

Gwathagor · 03-25-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

I don't think ducks are spawning, or growing for that matter.
Simply cobblerisms. Picked up by paranoia... insanity? Fed by further cobblerisms.
The End.

X'd with Gwath.

I agree.

Gwathagor · 03-25-2009, 04:08 PM

Ok, I'm going to go eat dinner. But I'm coming back. And then things are going to get exciting.

Durelin · 03-25-2009, 01:36 PM

I hate you all for increasing my sinus headache and making me hungry.

Should we just lynch Rikae and get it over with? Right, unless that activates her blinding...darkness.

And stop crying "fire", Nilp.

Back to Aristophanes. I really must...

Nogrod · 03-25-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Durelin

Back to Aristophanes. I really must...

Even Parmenides would make more sense than this game.

03-25-2009, 01:04 PM	#15
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Ooh that shut them up.... Well I shall talk to myself. Observations. Fea is being restrained. This is a clear indication that she is responsible for something or too something. As an ordo she gets terribly bored and is absolutely no holds barred. I don't think as an ordo she would be so concerned with what ever restriction she is under. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-25-2009, 01:05 PM	#16
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	'The Bomb.' I'm not suited for this. Maybe I'll just sic Adam on you tomorrow. Anyway, let's do more lists: Feanor of the Peredhil: Used nominative pronouns. Is dead. (Not a threat, a statement.) Durelin: Has delivered fowl words, and should be lynched. Nogrod: Has the temerity to imagine me to be the Cobbler. Pfft. Imagine that. Will be killed toNIGHT. Isabellkya: Can't distinguish between natural Cobblery and Cobblery to cover Avian behaviour. Nerwen: Should cheer more. I'll let her live. For now. Rikae: Is stealing my limelight. Lynch. Mithalwen: Is my dearest mum. Is stealing my role. (Or am I stealing hers? ) Kath: Is quiet. Has not posted today. Lynch. Lariren Shadow: Knows too much about Duck formations. Lynch. Macalaure: Took Fibonacci sequence seriously, albeit in the wrong direction. I'll keep him. Gwathagor: Wants to lynch me. Go ahead punk, make my day. squints Nilpaurion Felagund: Will be dead tomorrow . . . to be replaced by Adam. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-25-2009, 03:59 PM	#20
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Why do you think Nilp is evil? Nilp is being Nilp and a good son.... Rikae is a distraction.... And Nogrod .... more constructive to look at my days than speculate about my nights.... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-25-2009, 04:04 PM	#23
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I don't think ducks are spawning, or growing for that matter. Simply cobblerisms. Picked up by paranoia... insanity? Fed by further cobblerisms. The End. X'd with Gwath. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

03-25-2009, 04:08 PM	#25
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Ok, I'm going to go eat dinner. But I'm coming back. And then things are going to get exciting. __________________ Stories and songs.

03-25-2009, 10:39 AM	#2
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Oh, something just occurred to me about Mith "delivering ducks" ....

03-25-2009, 10:44 AM	#3
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	I think I know who all the ducks in the village at this moment are. Lot of good it does the village, though. keeps mouth shut

03-25-2009, 10:46 AM	#4
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	M mom and I were just discussing psychiatrists, and she said "oh, I think they're all quacks".

03-25-2009, 01:21 PM	#12
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	After I called Lommy "feathered" (in reference to her personal title), Nienna commented about me hitting the nail on the head. I voted for you because your comments about Lommy (who I already had decided was a duck) looked seerish. I'm not in the duck-voting game.

03-25-2009, 01:22 PM	#13
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	So you're a cobbler who votes for the person you think is a seer every day?

03-25-2009, 01:06 PM	#17
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Hm. Those ducks weren't lynched because of Mith, but because they were obviously ducks. Well, I thought Lommy might be the seer momentarily, but then Nienna made a comment that made it clear they were both in the "flock" together. I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed that. So if Mith is "delivering" ducks, she's doing so in a way we don't want. Either she's part of a growing flock, throwing the others to the village to make herself look good, or she is actually causing the flock to grow somehow. Therefore: ++Macalaure

03-25-2009, 01:36 PM	#26
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	I hate you all for increasing my sinus headache and making me hungry. Should we just lynch Rikae and get it over with? Right, unless that activates her blinding...darkness. And stop crying "fire", Nilp. Back to Aristophanes. I really must...