Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 02-23-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

I can't recall any village in which I did not defend myself quite vigorously if I was attacked. I can recall typing entire sentences in capital letters and yelling and thrashing like crazy.

Maybe you have just been protected by the halo of "the phantom" the last year or two and have not needed to do that as I don't actually quite remember that, but on some minor issues...

Good work-out for you to need to try it for a long time, isn't it?

(Or maybe this is one of those minor issues as well in the end...)

Anyway, good night now everyone - I see some already eaten pieces require some polishing as they look reaally bad laying there outside the game board...

Mnemosyne · 02-23-2009, 06:31 PM

Well, I'm back.

To find that the Fea controversy from yesterDay has descended into an out and out phantom versus Nog war.

Gah. Whenever I come across these, they always end up being either 1). Two innocents hacking at each other (while the wolves snigger in the background), or 2). Two wolves making a huge case against each other so that when one of them dies the other will be Trusted. Usually it's much more often option 1).

So I'm very pleased to see that Nog voted for Izzy. I'm tempted to look into her more, but he and Rikae have already done that and I'd like to try to bring some other not-yet-looked-at players into the mix.

Sally, thanks for your explanation; since I know you were pressed for time I'll let it slide... toDay.

Brinn's vote from yesterday worries me, though.

Hopefully I'll be back with more later; alas, being a chess piece is not my only occupation.

I also knit.

the phantom · 02-23-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nog

Maybe you have just been protected by the halo of "the phantom" the last year or two and have not needed to do that as I don't actually quite remember that

Hmm... Well maybe that's partly true, but recently wouldn't you say I was quite the insane defender when Boro and I were under fire in that game that Brin finished off? I mean, just completely obsessive, yes? That's the sort of thing that I'm talking about. Anyway...

I've finished my Day 1 person by person read through, except for Nog and Mnem (I started at the bottom of the posting list). And right now there's too much going on around me to do more reading, so I'll have to wait on those two until I am home.

I'll go ahead and post a bit about the other people in a little bit.

Mnemosyne · 02-23-2009, 06:50 PM

Hurrah! Not only is Kath around; she's also coherent! (Sorry we didn't give you much post fodder early Day 1.)

Probably going to start out looking at Brinn if I can; see how she acted yesterDay/toDay aside from that vote. Won't have time to go over everyone tonight, though.

Mnemosyne · 02-23-2009, 07:09 PM

I hope Brinn is on more today, just so that I can get a better handle on her.

But since she made that "this Fea thing reminds me of last game" post (which I had clean forgotten about), in between her "top three" post and the vote for Gwath I'm inclined to find her a bit less suspicious than I had.

Her point about needing to kill wolves, not the bear, is particularly interesting because it goes against everything everyone else has been saying. But I don't know so much about that: killing wolves extends the number of days till innocents = wolves. Killing a bear means fewer kills per night.

So, yes, valid point, especially when raised against all the others.

But amidst all this discussion of whom we need to get role-wise (and yes, I know, I'm as guilty of this as everyone else) we're not looking at actual suspects.

So I'd like to see more of Brinn, especially if/as she starts gunning after other players, because this analysis has left me decidedly neutral on her. About all I have to go on right now is her list and her vote.

the phantom · 02-23-2009, 07:11 PM

Please bear in mind that everything I say here is based only upon things that happened before Day 2 began. I'm trying to be just as thorough as usual despite having less time.

Also keep in mind that I am absolutely not saying everything that I think about people. There are a couple individuals that I strongly suspect of being White Gifted (one for sure), so obviously pointing it out would not be intelligent. In addition, some opinions will be based more upon gut feeling (the way they're speaking, etc) and thus not much can be said other than "innocent" or "shady".

Kath- Obviously, I'd like to see more posts. But nothing set off alarms of any kind.
Durelin- Completely undecided at this point.
Wilwa- I think she's fine, and will trust her until she gives me a reason not to.
Lari- Don't have a strong opinion, but my weak opinion is favorable.
Brin- I'm extremely curious about her. She's given me strong vibes of both White and Black.
Fea- I still think she's innocent. The WereCreatures will leave her around hoping we'll lynch her, and I'd like to give her the chance to make them pay for it.
Mira- For all her posts I couldn't tell much of anything about what she actually thought. We'll see if she picks it up today.
Izzy- I'm definitely leaning innocent with her.
Hansy- On one hand I like his style. On the other hand he puts off a bad vibe or two. But then again I feel him overall innocent and fear he will be used as lynch fodder by opportunistic WereCreatures.
Sally- Difficulties for her led to an odd day. I was unable to form any opinion.
Rikae- Another one I'm definitely liking at this point. I'll defend her strongly if she's threatened.

I realize that's not much writing for a couple hours worth of reading, but at this time I choose not to be more detailed due to safety reasons and time constraints. But I figure you at least know quite clearly where I stand after Day 1 and Night 2.

Hansy · 02-23-2009, 07:31 PM

Okay. I decided I'm following my gut on this one.

++Nogrod

I don't like the way many of his posts sound; too calculated, too "polished" as he said itself. And I think he's trying to divert us on going after "cobblers" - just compare the time he spent analyzing Fea, then he throws an Izzy vote out of nowhere.
I wanted him to be around to give his thoughts on this; I'll come here later, myself.

02-23-2009, 06:31 PM	#2
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	Well, I'm back. To find that the Fea controversy from yesterDay has descended into an out and out phantom versus Nog war. Gah. Whenever I come across these, they always end up being either 1). Two innocents hacking at each other (while the wolves snigger in the background), or 2). Two wolves making a huge case against each other so that when one of them dies the other will be Trusted. Usually it's much more often option 1). So I'm very pleased to see that Nog voted for Izzy. I'm tempted to look into her more, but he and Rikae have already done that and I'd like to try to bring some other not-yet-looked-at players into the mix. Sally, thanks for your explanation; since I know you were pressed for time I'll let it slide... toDay. Brinn's vote from yesterday worries me, though. Hopefully I'll be back with more later; alas, being a chess piece is not my only occupation. I also knit. __________________ Got corsets?

02-23-2009, 06:50 PM	#4
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	Hurrah! Not only is Kath around; she's also coherent! (Sorry we didn't give you much post fodder early Day 1.) Probably going to start out looking at Brinn if I can; see how she acted yesterDay/toDay aside from that vote. Won't have time to go over everyone tonight, though. __________________ Got corsets?

02-23-2009, 07:09 PM	#5
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	...That was quick. I hope Brinn is on more today, just so that I can get a better handle on her. But since she made that "this Fea thing reminds me of last game" post (which I had clean forgotten about), in between her "top three" post and the vote for Gwath I'm inclined to find her a bit less suspicious than I had. Her point about needing to kill wolves, not the bear, is particularly interesting because it goes against everything everyone else has been saying. But I don't know so much about that: killing wolves extends the number of days till innocents = wolves. Killing a bear means fewer kills per night. So, yes, valid point, especially when raised against all the others. But amidst all this discussion of whom we need to get role-wise (and yes, I know, I'm as guilty of this as everyone else) we're not looking at actual suspects. So I'd like to see more of Brinn, especially if/as she starts gunning after other players, because this analysis has left me decidedly neutral on her. About all I have to go on right now is her list and her vote. __________________ Got corsets?

02-23-2009, 07:11 PM	#6
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Please bear in mind that everything I say here is based only upon things that happened before Day 2 began. I'm trying to be just as thorough as usual despite having less time. Also keep in mind that I am absolutely not saying everything that I think about people. There are a couple individuals that I strongly suspect of being White Gifted (one for sure), so obviously pointing it out would not be intelligent. In addition, some opinions will be based more upon gut feeling (the way they're speaking, etc) and thus not much can be said other than "innocent" or "shady". Kath- Obviously, I'd like to see more posts. But nothing set off alarms of any kind. Durelin- Completely undecided at this point. Wilwa- I think she's fine, and will trust her until she gives me a reason not to. Lari- Don't have a strong opinion, but my weak opinion is favorable. Brin- I'm extremely curious about her. She's given me strong vibes of both White and Black. Fea- I still think she's innocent. The WereCreatures will leave her around hoping we'll lynch her, and I'd like to give her the chance to make them pay for it. Mira- For all her posts I couldn't tell much of anything about what she actually thought. We'll see if she picks it up today. Izzy- I'm definitely leaning innocent with her. Hansy- On one hand I like his style. On the other hand he puts off a bad vibe or two. But then again I feel him overall innocent and fear he will be used as lynch fodder by opportunistic WereCreatures. Sally- Difficulties for her led to an odd day. I was unable to form any opinion. Rikae- Another one I'm definitely liking at this point. I'll defend her strongly if she's threatened. I realize that's not much writing for a couple hours worth of reading, but at this time I choose not to be more detailed due to safety reasons and time constraints. But I figure you at least know quite clearly where I stand after Day 1 and Night 2. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

02-23-2009, 07:31 PM	#7
Hansy Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 34	Okay. I decided I'm following my gut on this one. ++Nogrod I don't like the way many of his posts sound; too calculated, too "polished" as he said itself. And I think he's trying to divert us on going after "cobblers" - just compare the time he spent analyzing Fea, then he throws an Izzy vote out of nowhere. I wanted him to be around to give his thoughts on this; I'll come here later, myself.