Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Isabellkya · 02-21-2009, 03:14 PM

I find you not liking the pressure of the end game (as a non evil) ... an odd one phantom.
There fore, I think it would be fun to see you sweat it out once. xD

In reality, what good would it be to in-depthly theorize about what the White Queen may or may not be able to do?
We won't know (I assume) until the game is over. So, what kind of help is that going to lend us; when dealing with the evilies that we do know about?

the phantom · 02-21-2009, 03:21 PM

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There fore, I think it would be fun to see you sweat it out once.

I did have to do that once. In Fea's blind luck game. It was me, SPM, and Mith left on the final day. And while it was amazing, memorable, fun to read, and we ended up winning, it is not something I look forward to doing again. I swear- if it looks like things are headed that way, I will start acting as suspiciously as possible just so I don't have to go through that nail-biting again.

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Originally Posted by Kya

In reality, what good would it be to in-depthly theorize about what the White Queen may or may not be able to do?

I agree that at this point it doesn't get us anywhere. But if something unexplained happens at any point, then I would say that it should be discussed, for if we can perhaps get a bead on the way the role works, we can factor it into our plans for impacting the village.

Eönwë · 02-21-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

In reality, what good would it be to in-depthly theorize about what the White Queen may or may not be able to do?

Not much, but it's as a good a thing as any to talk about on Day 1.

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

We won't know (I assume) until the game is over. So, what kind of help is that going to lend us; when dealing with the evilies that we do know about?

It's probably better not to say even if you do work it out, as then it will give the baddies (or evilies as you call them) more of a chance to find xer (or is the correct term xem?)

edit: x-ed wid tp

Mnemosyne · 02-21-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzy

In reality, what good would it be to in-depthly theorize about what the White Queen may or may not be able to do?

Maybe little to nothing now, but we may be able to get some clues by how night narrations play out. I, for one, would love her to have some sort of ranger-type capacity with this whole "double kill" thing...

But how much purpose is there in explanation? Dwell too much on it and we either look like baddies (except, baddies should only speculate to one another and not in-game) or we give the baddies ideas.

The "focus on the bear, focus on the wolf" thing is a bit of a problem. The more difficult one has much higher rewards; the one that won't pay off as much is easier to manage. So really it's better to keep both in mind and not focus on one to the exclusion of the other. The wolves would love to have us focus on the bear, because we're hunting in the haystack for needles. Less pressure on them. So even though it'd be GREAT to have the bear, let's not focus on her to exclusion. (Not that anyone was going to do that, but still.) I'd rather put all my effort on the wolves; if we catch the bear, well, great.

Also, remember that the bear is JUST as clueless as we are (at the moment); in trying to kill an innocent during this early "better cooperate with the wolves" phase she may end up killing one by accident/on purpose. Whereas the wolves have their own seer.

Rikae · 02-21-2009, 03:40 PM

What you said about the bear and wolves is sensible enough, Mnemi, but this is something that has been bugging me for a while in werewolf games, and I might as well mention it now -
there is absolutely no point in telling people what they should or should not focus on, especially before they've even started focusing on it.

the phantom · 02-21-2009, 03:42 PM

Yes, because they just end up focusing on me.

So really... pointless to make suggestions.

Isabellkya · 02-21-2009, 03:54 PM

It doesn't count if you are jumping up and down, waving your arms about - phantom. xD

Eönwë · 02-21-2009, 03:57 PM

Shhhh! No talking to the phantom.

He hasn't been behaving himself, so we have to pretend he's not here.

There's a reason he's in that paper cage.

edit: x-ed with wilwa

wilwarin538 · 02-21-2009, 03:57 PM

Just to let you all know that I am around and have read almost everything that's been said. Don't have as much time now to say much, but I'm happy that the banter is over!

I'll be back in about 6 hours, and I'll post a longish post about my thoughts on everyone, and depending on whether voting has started or not, I will probably vote.

Be prepared for me to bandwagon, there are so many players in this game I'm not familiar with so until we get into Day 2 it will be tough for me to get a read on some of you. Just to warn you ahead of time so that it isn't held against me next Day.

Gwathagor · 02-21-2009, 07:05 PM

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Be prepared for me to bandwagon, there are so many players in this game I'm not familiar with so until we get into Day 2 it will be tough for me to get a read on some of you. Just to warn you ahead of time so that it isn't held against me next Day.

As much as the warning is appreciated, that shouldn't get you off the hook if your vote ends up looking suspicious.

Nogrod · 02-21-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

The wolves would love to have us focus on the bear, because we're hunting in the haystack for needles. Less pressure on them. So even though it'd be GREAT to have the bear, let's not focus on her to exclusion. (Not that anyone was going to do that, but still.) I'd rather put all my effort on the wolves; if we catch the bear, well, great.

How do you focus on the Black Queen at the moment? If you have an idea please share... "That person looks like she's bit of a loner?"

If the baddies do not make some quite serious mistakes toDay we can still get one, but basically only with luck. I'm afraid that's all there is to hope for. But surely the more people discuss the more material there is to find a mistake from - or more chances for someone to blunder with a reaction, a tone, a stance or an attitude. So I do share Rikae's stance that Day1's can be productive not only afterwards but already on Day1. I have now some time to go back to the thread and try to see if there is anything that could help...

Gwathagor · 02-21-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

s.

The "focus on the bear, focus on the wolf" thing is a bit of a problem. The more difficult one has much higher rewards; the one that won't pay off as much is easier to manage.

I say we ought to focus on neither/both.

02-21-2009, 03:14 PM	#1
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I find you not liking the pressure of the end game (as a non evil) ... an odd one phantom. There fore, I think it would be fun to see you sweat it out once. xD In reality, what good would it be to in-depthly theorize about what the White Queen may or may not be able to do? We won't know (I assume) until the game is over. So, what kind of help is that going to lend us; when dealing with the evilies that we do know about? __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

02-21-2009, 03:42 PM	#6
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Yes, because they just end up focusing on me. So really... pointless to make suggestions. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

02-21-2009, 03:54 PM	#7
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	It doesn't count if you are jumping up and down, waving your arms about - phantom. xD __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

02-21-2009, 03:57 PM	#8
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Shhhh! No talking to the phantom. He hasn't been behaving himself, so we have to pretend he's not here. There's a reason he's in that paper cage. edit: x-ed with wilwa __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

02-21-2009, 03:57 PM	#9
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	Just to let you all know that I am around and have read almost everything that's been said. Don't have as much time now to say much, but I'm happy that the banter is over! I'll be back in about 6 hours, and I'll post a longish post about my thoughts on everyone, and depending on whether voting has started or not, I will probably vote. Be prepared for me to bandwagon, there are so many players in this game I'm not familiar with so until we get into Day 2 it will be tough for me to get a read on some of you. Just to warn you ahead of time so that it isn't held against me next Day. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

02-21-2009, 03:40 PM	#5
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	What you said about the bear and wolves is sensible enough, Mnemi, but this is something that has been bugging me for a while in werewolf games, and I might as well mention it now - there is absolutely no point in telling people what they should or should not focus on, especially before they've even started focusing on it.