Numenoreans attacking the Valar

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Yes, but I thought that not even Sauron expected the entire continent to be wiped out. Fleet, yes, Numenor itself, no.

Yes, Sauron often had a bad habit of underestimating his enemies. Like for instance, never considering in his darkest nightmares that someone might actually want to destroy his ring.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

You must remember that the Valar did not even fight in the War of Wrath; instead they sent as leader-by-proxy Eonwe the Herald, a Maia, and hosts of the Vanyar and Noldor (and most likely other Maiar as well). This army not only crushed Morgoth's forces (including Balrogs, dragons and trolls), but destroyed Beleriand so utterly that it sunk into the sea.

The Valar might not have participated in battle themselves, but their powers were clearly exerted. Elves and Orcs and Dragons are not able to destroy Beleriand, neither are, I daresay, mere Maiar, nor Morgoth alone, at this point in his existence.

The word "lesson" made me remember that one thread alatar revived last year (I especially liked Squatter's #71).