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Old 02-13-2009, 02:38 PM   #1
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But it was no orc-chieftain or brigand that led the assault upon Crickhollow.

I only noticed this because Aiwendil mentioned the ambiguous horn-call/cock-crow that Frodo heard in Bree, but the attack on Crickhollow actually foreshadows - in miniature model, so to speak - a famous scene much later in the book.

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There was a blow, soft but heavy, and the door shuddered.
'Open, in the name of Mordor!' said a voice, thin and menacing.
At a second blow the door yielded and fell back, with timbers burst and lock broken. The black figures passed swiftly in.
At that moment, among the trees nearby, a horn rang out. It rent the night like fire on a hill-top.
Awake! Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!
[...] The Brandybucks were blowing the Horn-call of Buckland, that had not been sounded for a hundred years, not since the white wolves came in the Fell Winter, when the Brandywine was frozen over.
Awake! Awake!
Far-away answering horns were heard. The alarm was spreading. The black figures fled from the house.
And now compare it to this (from The Siege of Gondor):
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A deep boom rumbled through the City like thunder running in the clouds. But the doors of iron and posts of steel withstood the stroke.
Then the Black Captain rose in his stirrups and cried aloud in a dreadful voice, speaking in some forgotten tongue words of power and terror to rend both heart and stone.
Thrice he cried. Thrice the great ram boomed. And suddenly upon the last stroke the Gate of Gondor broke. As if stricken by some blasting spell it burst asunder: there was a flash of searing lightning, and the doors tumbled in riven fragments to the ground.
In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl. A great black shape against the fires beyond he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.[...]
And in that very moment, away behind in some courtyard of the city, a cock crowed. Shrill and clear he crowed, recking nothing of wizardry and war, welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn.
And as if in answer there came from far away another note. Horns, horns, horns. In dark Mindolluin's sides they dimly echoed. Great horns of the North wildly blowing. Rohan had come at last.
Wow! Looks like the Nazgûl are knee-deep in **** whenever somebody has the courage to blow a horn on them.
But seriously: To me, the correspondence, detail for detail, seems much too obvious for this to be a mere coincidence - especially as it's Merry (one of those annoying horn-blowing Brandybucks) who deals the Witch-King his penultimate blow in the chapter following the second quotation. Moreover, both scenes are echoed together when Merry blows the Horn-call of Buckland on the Horn of Rohan during the Scouring of the Shire. An awesome example of Tolkien's narrative skill creating coherence over long distances.
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:49 PM   #2
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That's a fascinating comparison, Pitchwife! It's an interesting side note that horns are the instruments which have a special (magical?) function in Tolkien's Middle-earth. Alas, lack of time and the fact that my books are already packed for moving prevent me from going into detail on this; I hope I can come back to it sometime soon.
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM   #3
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A truly great catch Pitchwife. Thanks for pointing that one out.
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Ring Ringwraith puzzlement

I have no astute insights on "A Knife in the Dark" to make, but only a blunt question:

How were five dreaded ringwraiths unable or unwilling to overwhelm Strider/Aragorn and four unmartial, puny hobbits at night on Weathertop?

The Witch King there saw Frodo wearing the One Ring.

Why fool around with Morgul knives and such? The ringwraiths had swords and thousands of years of sword-and-sorcery experience. Strider bore a torch and the hobbits bore small blades of Westernesse.

I say, no contest. So, these couldn't be the same ringwraiths who made the defenders of Minas Tirith quake in fear. They must have been B-team ringwraiths sent by Mordor. If as I read, Sauron had the nine rings in his keeping, he would have had time to use them to turn more than nine men into ringwraiths.

Or, maybe the five on Weathertop had run out of coffee or whatever made them go?
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Why fool around with Morgul knives and such? The ringwraiths had swords and thousands of years of sword-and-sorcery experience. Strider bore a torch and the hobbits bore small blades of Westernesse.
It does seem a bit like they weren't giving Sauron their best at that point. Then again, they also missed the Ring at Hobbiton because they took an old hobbit's word that Frodo wasn't home.

Anyway, I think at Weathertop it goes back to two factors. One, Aragorn had said the Ringwraiths feared fire, and that seems to have been proven by him. Two, as Aragorn also noted, he and the Hobbits still had a long way to go before they could have reached any possible safety, and the WK seems to have had the thought that turning Frodo into a wraith was the easy way to do things. Gandalf later said that the splinter in Frodo probably would have turned a Man fairly quickly, and the WK can't be faulted for knowing so little of Hobbit resilience.

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So, these couldn't be the same ringwraiths who made the defenders of Minas Tirith quake in fear.
I don't have Letters with me, but there's a letter in which Tolkien notes that the WK had been given an "added demonic force" when he was placed in command of the forces attacking Minas Tirith. I think all the Nazgûl were at an elevated level of power at that point.
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