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wilwarin538 · 02-12-2009, 02:05 PM

++ Morgoth

Gotta love the crazy psycho bad guys....

and I don't know who Bolg is,

Groin Redbeard · 02-12-2009, 02:08 PM

Bolg sounds like an Orc who would sit on a pile of Crispy Cream Doughnuts and eat 'till he busts. The book doesn't mention anything scary about him at all; the only thing it says is that his bodyguards were big and strong.

++Morgoth

Nerwen · 02-12-2009, 02:24 PM

A tough one:

Bolg is certainly a tragic victim of the ursine menace and the son of that Orc with the really cool name... but there wouldn't have been much of a story without

++Morgoth.

the phantom · 02-12-2009, 06:36 PM

Well, hmm... Based on accomplishments you'd have to go with Morgoth.

Bolg could not contend with Beorn. Morgoth successfully competed against all the Valar for a long time.

Bolg was unable to win the Lonely Mountain from a small army of men, elves, and dwarves. Morgoth was able to hold sway over most of ME for a time, and then came back and took over lots of it again, snatching it from some of the greatest men, elves, and dwarves ever.

So really, if Bolg is going to win, it has to be based on something other than talent and power and cunning and deeds and stature etc.

Personality perhaps?

Nah... I just can't bring myself to vote Bolg over Morgoth. Bolg just isn't that impressive. Azog and Grishnakh are both way better, so if I'm going to pick an orc over the master of evil, there are better choices.

++Morgoth

Morthoron · 02-12-2009, 07:45 PM

++Melkor Morgoth Bauglir

Only the coolest Tolkien characters get nicks.

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-12-2009, 10:43 PM

Morgoth-7 Bolg-2

Next: Two wild and crazy orcs vying for
the right to challenge Melkor Belegurth.
Hint to the winner of this match: Just say
"Ringil! Ringil! Ringil! to
psych M out.

Azog vs. Grishnakh

? Will a father/son orc combo fare as
well as an elf father/son duo? (0ne for two)

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-13-2009, 06:05 AM

Nah, while I like Azog, and I like him far more than Bolg; and while I really disliked Grishnákh in the beginning (but just because he opposed Uglúk and he was such a not-having-his-own-mind servant), I developed some liking for him later. He is cunning in some way, although even that makes him sort of disgusting. But heck, he is not really that bad as a character. I would not be keen on becoming friends with him if I met him, but if it goes for voting...

++Grishnákh

wilwarin538 · 02-13-2009, 08:03 AM

Definitely

++Grishnákh

Awesomest name, and totally wonderful at being evil!

02-12-2009, 02:05 PM	#1
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	++ Morgoth Gotta love the crazy psycho bad guys.... and I don't know who Bolg is, __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

02-12-2009, 02:08 PM	#2
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	Bolg sounds like an Orc who would sit on a pile of Crispy Cream Doughnuts and eat 'till he busts. The book doesn't mention anything scary about him at all; the only thing it says is that his bodyguards were big and strong. ++Morgoth __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

02-12-2009, 02:24 PM	#3
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	A tough one: Bolg is certainly a tragic victim of the ursine menace and the son of that Orc with the really cool name... but there wouldn't have been much of a story without ++Morgoth. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

02-12-2009, 06:36 PM	#4
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Well, hmm... Based on accomplishments you'd have to go with Morgoth. Bolg could not contend with Beorn. Morgoth successfully competed against all the Valar for a long time. Bolg was unable to win the Lonely Mountain from a small army of men, elves, and dwarves. Morgoth was able to hold sway over most of ME for a time, and then came back and took over lots of it again, snatching it from some of the greatest men, elves, and dwarves ever. So really, if Bolg is going to win, it has to be based on something other than talent and power and cunning and deeds and stature etc. Personality perhaps? Nah... I just can't bring myself to vote Bolg over Morgoth. Bolg just isn't that impressive. Azog and Grishnakh are both way better, so if I'm going to pick an orc over the master of evil, there are better choices. ++Morgoth __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

02-12-2009, 07:45 PM	#5
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,515	++Melkor Morgoth Bauglir Only the coolest Tolkien characters get nicks. __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

02-12-2009, 10:43 PM	#6
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Morgoth-7 Bolg-2 Next: Two wild and crazy orcs vying for the right to challenge Melkor Belegurth. Hint to the winner of this match: Just say "Ringil! Ringil! Ringil! to psych M out. Azog vs. Grishnakh ? Will a father/son orc combo fare as well as an elf father/son duo? (0ne for two) __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.' Last edited by Tuor in Gondolin; 02-12-2009 at 10:48 PM.

02-13-2009, 06:05 AM	#7
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nah, while I like Azog, and I like him far more than Bolg; and while I really disliked Grishnákh in the beginning (but just because he opposed Uglúk and he was such a not-having-his-own-mind servant), I developed some liking for him later. He is cunning in some way, although even that makes him sort of disgusting. But heck, he is not really that bad as a character. I would not be keen on becoming friends with him if I met him, but if it goes for voting... ++Grishnákh __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

02-13-2009, 08:03 AM	#8
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	Definitely ++Grishnákh Awesomest name, and totally wonderful at being evil! __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin