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Old 02-07-2009, 08:03 AM   #1
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Posting here as I personally prefer everything to be found in the same thread.

First, two things clear.

I said on day 1 I would like to be turned if I was Frodo. That was true, but it had nothing to do with how I played. I was completely on the village's side until I was turned. However, it was clear to me from the beginning that I was not going to reveal unless I absolutely had to. I was sort of a hunter twice in a row before this game, and I revealed both times. I had by now got an overdose of being a known innocent who just wouldn't be killed.

Also, I was turned the same day my school ended. I am still more inclined to think possible chances in my behaviour, whether compared to previous games or the earlier days in this one, were more due to that.

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Anyway, thanks for an awesome game, Kit and others! It's a while since I have enjoyed playing this much. And special thanks to my lovely packmates. I was so frustrated when Lommy revealed two of them right after I had learnt their names! And although Mac wasn't sure about us, at least we could be sure about him, which was a good thing. It would've been rather annoying to accidentally kill our cobbler (yet I think I would have encouraged keeping him alive so the paranoid village could have lynched him in the end even if we hadn't had a reason to assume he was Ferny).

All the newbies played really well. And Lari, I can but sympathize - it's much easier to be a wolf than an innocent, not to mention a gifted. Looking forward to playing with you all again.

Sorry Greenie & Menel. I'd rather we had lynched someone else than Greenie that day because then I could have continued my case against her and Legate later. And as for Menel, I came online before 7am just to notice you were actually trying to lynch Nerwen based on her day 1 vote. I don't think I would've liked the reasons much even if she hadn't been my fellow, but now I simply needed to get someone else lynched.

Killing Rikae was completely my own decision as Nerwen was away. I thought she could be the ranger looking as weird (and also cobblerish) as possible, hoping we would ignore her. My main reasons were, though, that it would somewhat help frame Legate & Mira, and that she seemed to be so sure of Mac's guilt. I didn't want him to be lynched.

I was amused by people speculating that we killed Legate because he was dangerous. As a matter of fact, we had been thinking about killing either Berry, Rune, or Mira, but then I went to look how people had reacted to Lommy's reveal in order to find the ranger, and Legate seemed like the most promising choice. We sent the name to Kit like 15 minutes before the day was supposed to start.

After Lari's reveal we PMed Kit about her ability to protect herself and learnt she could do that once during the game. That's why we didn't kill her - we didn't even want to risk missing a kill. We considered Mira or Berry and decided to go for him.

I must say that Lari's reveal messed our plans pretty nicely. Also, the last day was really bad on my part. I just somehow totally ignored the effect both Nerwen and me voting for Mira would have on Rune. I.. didn't think someone else could have voted for her as well, I was just waiting for Mac (which was actually our plan B). I thought he wanted me to vote first, just to be sure. Appears he wasn't sure even about me.

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Old 02-07-2009, 11:24 AM   #2
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Which thread do I post on???

Yay, I'm so glad we won! Once Sally and me were dead, we began chatting with one another speculating about the game and cheering our packmates on. It made being dead a bit better than it is normally.

I must admit being a wraith wasn't exactly a role of preference. Simply because even though Fea's game was months ago, I had a bad feeling people would suspect me simply because of my once-in-a-lifetime performance and that the seer would dream of me early on (which sucks since I have never spotted a gifted). Of course, I put that aside and did the best I could, hoping to survive longer than I did. My first Day performance was crap, for a variety of reasons...mostly I just let my emotions and stress get the better of me. My final Night, I pretty much almost knew I would be revealed and so we made a plan to counter-reveal. Obviously, that was a stupid idea; I would've had much more fun if I had done what Sally and act silly. I try to justify my actions by thinking at least I distracted the village for a Day with two seers...but I don't actually think it made much difference. Overall, it was a lousy performance and I hope to do a bit better for my team next time.

I did enjoy the game, even after my death, as it was fun to watch. Thanks to Sally who brought me much amusement on her final Day. She promised to entertain me, and that she did. Nerwen remained our steady wraith throughout the game. All the way until the end she remained as sneaky as ever. I was so relieved when I discovered Aganzir was Frodo, though I'm sad I never got to actually play with her. She did me proud, however, being her manipulative self. The poor girl messaged me on the final Day saying she couldn't sleep she was so anxious waiting for Mac to vote. I couldn't do much to help being dead and all, plus I was feeling anxious too. I think she finally did go to bed around 7am...

Mac, you were an excellent cobbler even if you couldn't guess who we were. Being the runner-up lynch candidate for several Days, then a known innocent really helped us out. Lommy, I was so mad when I realised you were most probably the seer...especially since I did want to kill you on Night 2. But good work, since you were the only one to catch any wraiths, as I predicted. Lari, when I was informed after my death that you were the ranger, I was rather surprised. Good work.

And thanks to Kitanna who made a lovely game with an awesome theme.

Btw, I can't believe how much I told the truth in this game. You all thought my Frodo comments were some sort of hint, but it was my honest opinion on the situation. I always give my honest opinion on strategies on Day 1, and usually get suspected for it. But even remained fairly truthful, particularly in my final posts:

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Are you really so sure Mac is innocent? I'd take a second look at him. I'm least trusting of Aganzir and Nerwen, particularly for their bandwagoning toDay. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them are wraiths.
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But really guys, do you always have to let the seer do all the work for you? You blindly lynched innocents and couldn't manage to lynch a single wraith until the seer revealed. Lucky for you. But without a seer to do your dirty work, you are all just hopeless. Let's just see how well you do once she is dead.
(A rather harsh comment from me, I admit...but hey, I was about to get lynched...)
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Just wait for Sally's final act. She has a whole extra Day and I know she'll do me proud.
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On a more serious note, the reason I'm exposing myself now is because I want to let you know in advance that my outburst on Day 1 wasn't any sort of evil scheme of mine. I was honestly offended by some comments and spun a bit out of control...it has absolutely nothing to do with my role or the game itself, and I felt really bad about it afterwards. I would really hate to be lynched having you guys think I was unsporty.

Now that that's out of the way, I don't understand why you all think I make such a brilliant wolf. I'm really quite crappy at it...if you don't believe me, take a look at my past games. The only one I've played exceptionally well was Fea's and a lot of that was dumb luck. But otherwise, I'm really horrible, no joke! I never make the right kill and my ploys never work. So stop calling me a scary baddie or whatever, because if you think that, you're just not trying hard enough. I've never been right about a gifted until this game...I actually wanted to kill Lommy on Night 2 and Sally said no. I'm not that stupid; I was almost positive she was the seer but I wasn't going to risk the chance she may be protected or I might be wrong, and since killing her would incriminate me and Sally, why not brave it out? And it was a good choice since instead we found our Frodo. I actually have to give my fellow credit for the kill choice. I didn't want to kill Greenie, but they insisted for two Nights, so I gave in. Good thing I did.
This was all honest except I replaced Agan with Greenie. Though I almost considered not replacing the name at all...
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Oh, c'mon Nerwen, you know you want to confess too. It's fun.
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Oh btw, you might want another look at Mac. I know the seer dreamt him innocent and all, but...
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Boy was that fun. I would've done it earlier, but I promised Sally I would do everything I can to get her lynched.
Seeee? If only you guys just listened to me....

I'll post our PMs later, but I have to go edit a project shortly...
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Old 02-07-2009, 11:27 AM   #3
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I still don't understand what made me so evil on the day I was lynched...

Oh, well. Great game!
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Old 02-07-2009, 11:58 AM   #4
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My computer's being a bum right now so I'll be back later, but that made me giggle. For now, nice game, everyone! See you again hopefully very soon!

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Old 02-07-2009, 01:03 PM   #5
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Great job everyone!

Lommy- Excellent seering. The game may have ended sooner if you hadn't pegged two wraiths, plus you got Bill and Strider in your dreams.

Wraiths- Great job. I wouldn't have suspected you guys until it was too late.

Mac, Agan, and Lommy- I'm glad I chose right and gave you the roles you wanted.

Mirandir and Beregond- Great job as newbies. I don't know if I've ever seen two new players last as long as you both did. Very well done, hopefully I can play a game with you two in the future.

Sally and Rikae- Next time you two decide to have a post war I'll throw you both in a cage and let you settle it that way.

To everyone else, I'm so glad there was so much interest in my game. I haven't modded for over three years and this was a great group and game to mod.
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Old 02-07-2009, 03:28 PM   #6
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Thank you Kitanna for an amazing game! You definitely did choose the roles well.

Congrats especially to Lommy. Without your dreams, the village might have gone down with four wraiths alive.

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Well no wonder you weren't as enthusiastic as I had thought you to be today.
I was quite nervous, in fact, because I didn't know what to do and knew I couldn't go the convenient way of self-voting. I then decided no longer to avoid you and attack you instead - I would either somehow find out you're a wraith or at least distract the innocent you severely.

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And we were optimistic and thought you wanted to tell you had found us both or needed a confirmation or something when we got her name last night!
Nope. When I sent in your and Nerwen's names I seriously thought you two would be good wraith-kills.

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When did you actually realise I was a wolf?
When you talked about the ranger and then evaded my comments on it. That, and a couple of other minor things I don't remember right now. You really acted very innocent before, but on the last day you were uncautious.

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Overall, it was a lousy performance and I hope to do a bit better for my team next time.
Aww, come on. If you hadn't been dreamt of, I'm sure you would have still been there on the last day. After the first day, only very few people were suspcious of you. You did well!

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Mac, you were an excellent cobbler even if you couldn't guess who we were. Being the runner-up lynch candidate for several Days, then a known innocent really helped us out.
Thanks. Good to know I was helpful after all. Actually, I think the fact that I was busy mostly with defending myself the first three days caused me to not have any idea later on. I was a bit out of the actual game and didn't really catch on again until short before the final deadline.

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I still don't understand what made me so evil on the day I was lynched...
Nothing. You just "accidentally" stepped on the foot of the wrong person.


(quotes from the other thread: )

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(may I know though, why did you think I am Frodo?)
Your sudden insistence that I was innocent. I thought you were going to defend me from a supposed wraithish set-up afterwards.

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I must say, by saying that you are a known innocent and emphasising it all the time, I hoped also that the Wraiths might possibly be persuaded to think so as well and kill you at Night, which would be quite helpful and no real loss for us.
But you yourself made a big point out of the fact that if I was the cobbler the wraiths would know for sure on Day1.

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Well, Mac, good for you: I didn't figure you out until the end of the day the village killed me.
That was quite entertaining, actually. I was very sure that you weren't a wraith, and considered exploiting the suspicions against you, but then I decided that the village was mad enough to lynch you without my assistence, too, and I could instead make cases against your voters the next Day.
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Old 02-07-2009, 03:45 PM   #7
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Posting here as I personally prefer everything to be found in the same thread.
So why did you start to post on a different thread?

I started on the admin thread, because I generally prefer that in-game things are on the game thread and others are on the other. Well, here it does not make that much difference, or not that strongly, but you know, it just looks more "neat" if there is this "story" ended by the final narration, and the after-game discussion is located elsewhere, also so that the end is easily accessible (for example for people who make some statistics later and wish just to see who won and who lost and don't wish to look through pages of after-discussion to find the final narration). But whatever.

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Aww, come on. If you hadn't been dreamt of, I'm sure you would have still been there on the last day. After the first day, only very few people were suspcious of you. You did well!
Yep, exactly. I think there was not really any strong suspicion against you, not strong enough for lynching you, had it not been for Lommy's reveal.

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As you see, nope. My intent was merely the hope to really ignore you, and if possible, even to the point that the Wolves themselves will become annyoed by it and kill you.

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Well, I was acting in the vain hope that if the Wolves were newbies, they could do that. And again, if they did, it would say something about their identity.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:57 AM   #8
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Mirandir and Beregond- Great job as newbies. I don't know if I've ever seen two new players last as long as you both did. Very well done, hopefully I can play a game with you two in the future.
Thank you! I hope so too! Good work, Mira! Glad I wasn't the only newbie this game.

And thank you for giving me a rather nice (comparatively, relatively) death, Kitanna.

And thanks, finally, for modding the game - it was indeed a good game!
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:39 PM   #9
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Congrats to the baddies - even if you were nasty enough to kill me at the second Night of the game!

Although I think that was for good as I've had some quite busy times lately so this game was one more hindrance from RL down...

So I never had time to actually follow the game too extensively during the latter days but it was surely fun as long as it lasted - and it looked interesting from what I read of it after being killed.

Let's see if I can endure to Day3 the next time.

And thanks to Kit for a fun concept!

And I agree that our first-timers were pretty good - even if there were the general and common "benefit of doubt" & good will on you. Well played Mira & Gondie!
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Of course you can't, it's mine.
Oh yeah. I can't even remember what made me think you were Frodo on day One anymore, but I'm making a mental note to go with my first instincts from now on (especially since I suspected Brinn, Mac and Nerwen on Day 1, too, and then talked myself out of it ).

Well, good game, everybody. And, for the record, I'm not ashamed of losing the post count war, since toward the end there I slowed down in an attempt to actually help the village. At least Agan heeded my warnings (incidentally, Agan, it was that "too bad nobody listened to Rikae about the cobbler" comment on the last day that convinced me you were evil for sure. Grrr....)
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