Middle-earth Bad Popularity Cup

[Morthoron]

++Glaurung

Thuringwethil is not even intriguing in her obscurity. I mean, really, when your claim to fame is that someone else skinned you and wore you like a Halloween costume, there isn't much happening for you.

[Andsigil]

Glaurung was the nuclear weapon of his age, whereas Thuringwethil killed or destroyed.... umm.......?

++Glaurung

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Thuringwethil is not even intriguing in her obscurity.

Morth phrased it here in a short and most precise way. For some reason, it's almost as if she wasn't needed to be there.

All right, when one starts to think about it... she was Sauron's messenger, flying from Tol-in-Gaurhoth... it might have been interesting, or rather, it would have been very interesting if we could, let's say, glimpse a bit of dialogue between her and Sauron (all right, that's more than you usually get even about the Nazgul or such). Now I am sure it would be cool. But this way... really, she just fits into the row of unknown characters, or unknown female (!) characters - which is a pity, as she certainly had some potential (I am sure Tolkien would not make her any close to the "primitive stereotypical zero-personality villain" like most movie-makers or story-writers nowadays would make her: I mean, you hear "she-vampire" and you can basically guess along which lines she would be. I hope nobody will ever make the Silm a movie, otherwise I am sure they will give more place to her than in the book. Unfortunately).

In any case, it's the "don't-look-to-the-eyes-of-a-stranger" guy with some primeval stage of the Voice of Saruman (hmm... great. Now it made me think about the difference between audio- and visual manipulation portrayed on these two... could almost make a good thread) who is getting my vote this time.

++Glaurung

[Eönwë]

++Glaurung

Always been one of my favourite evil characters in the Silm (Well, always may be a bit strong, I only read the Silm something like 4 years ago).

Charismatic and evil in a hardened way, but very intruiging. He also strikes me as somewhat intelligent, even though he is a little too sure of himself.

[skip spence]

Smaug is great and all but Glaurung's still his daddy.

I'm tempted to quote a few segments from CoH and the sack of Nargothrond:

Then Túrin sprang about, and strode against him, and fire was in his eyes, and the edges of Gurthang shone as with flame. But Glaurung withheld his blast, and opened wide his serpent-eyes and gazed upon Túrin. Without fear Túrin looked in those eyes as he raised up his sword; and straightway he fell under the dreadful spell of the dragon, and was as one turned to stone. Thus long they stood unmoving, silent in front of the great Doors of Felagund. Then Glaurung spoke again taunting Túrin. 'Evil have been all your ways, son of Húrin,' said he. 'Thankless fosterling, outlaw, slayer of your friend, thief of love, usurper of Nargothrond, captain foolhardy, and deserter of your own kin. As thralls your mother and sister live in Dor-lómin, in misery and want. You are arrayed as a prince, but they go in rags. For you they yearn, but you care not for that. Glad may your father be to learn that he has such a son: as learn he shall.'

A bit later:

Glaurung laughed once more, for he had accomplished the errand of his master. Then he turned to his own pleasure, and sent forth his blast, and burned all about him. But all the Orcs that were busy in the sack he routed forth, and drove them away, and denied them the plunder even to the last thing of worth. The bridge he then broke down and cast into the foam of Narog; and being thus secure he gathered all the hoard and riches of Felagund and heaped them, and lay upon them in the innermost hall, and rested for a while.

Glaurung up against a fur coat? Bah!

++Glaurung

[Tuor in Gondolin]

For contrarians:
+ + Thuringwethil

P.S. Glaurung just doesn't have Smaug's
sardonic sense of humor. And he can't fly!

[Groin Redbeard]

Wow, I thought that it would be a closer contest than this. I thought that Thuringwethil's "coolness" would certainly be a match for Glaurung's intriguingly twisted way of speaking.

++Glaurung

[the phantom]

Glaurung is the father of dragons, and he did some pretty darn evil things.

But I just find Thuringwethil interesting. I wish we knew more about her. A flying vampire lady. Very cool. I picture her like this when in flight or battle.

And like most vampires she can take on a more human form (for disguise, and seducing the enemy). For that I picture this and this (minus the gun of course).

Deadly and beautiful. I simply must answer-

++Thuringwethil