T-I-G LVI: Panic at the Prancing Pony - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Meneltarmacil · 01-28-2009, 08:33 PM

I'll let my Sally vote stand for now, as I can be reasonably sure she's a wraith. This seer business should clear itself up soon enough when we see who the wolves try to kill.

The only person here who really ought to worry about who is the real Seer at this point is the Ranger, whose task it will be to protect her tonight. The ranger should find out who is actually the seer by dawn tomorrow if she survives, and if she dies we'll know who to lynch. Of course, the wraiths could choose not to kill the Seer, but that probably wouldn't put them in a good position.

Mirandir · 01-28-2009, 08:46 PM

While I do think that sally is definitely a wraith (one of the few things both "seers" agree on), I agree with whoever said it earlier that it makes more sense for us to lynch Brinn. Her death will leave us with more information. So for now, I'll vote for her but reserve the ability to retract later if my over-tired brain comes up with something different or better justification.

++Brinniel

satansaloser2005 · 01-28-2009, 08:55 PM

*snickers*

You do of course realize that Brinn never said she dreamed me as a wraith. She said she dreamed me and I am a wraith. Big difference.

*snickers as she reads the bit about only having one retraction per day*

Just putting that possibility out there.

Beregond · 01-28-2009, 09:03 PM

Erm, sorry for being thick, but what difference?

Nerwen · 01-28-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Beregond

Erm, sorry for being thick, but what difference?

None... but I think she's implying she's actually Ferny and this was all a Fiendish Plot to lynch Brinniel. Or something.

Except, why would she say that now if it were true?

Brinniel · 01-28-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Except, why would she say that now if it were true?

Because she thinks enough of you have already retracted once that I'm doomed to die whether you change your mind about me or not. That might be so...though the voting might actually be closer than she thinks.

I don't blame her for gloating though. The plan to get me lynched obviously worked...toDay's events went brilliantly for the wraiths. They have a reason to celebrate. :/

Macalaure · 01-28-2009, 10:09 PM

Lily:

In #247 she lists Brinn as innocent (though she uses maybe a few too many words to state it). Her opinion of Sally ("there was something but I can't find it anymore") sounds genuine. YesterDay she has no read on Sally and defends Brinn. She lacks suspects yet nobody votes her for that, how unfair.

None of the other opinions she expressed really point toward her being evil. Defending Brinn, being undecided about Sally, and lacking other suspects - I surely sympathise with that.

Also, Brinn pursues her a bit, in a way that doesn't appear wraith-on-wraith-ish.

I have no reason to suspect her.

Nerwen:

If she's evil, then her Day1-vote must annoy her in hindsight: she could have lynched the seer (both!)! Abstains from voting on Day2. Analyses the end of Day2 and reaches softer conclusions than I did. She's quite determinedly after Fea, a bit in Legate and Rikae's smoke screen. She consider voting me and short before the deadline gets on Sally's trail.

She's constrained by time. What she says does not point towards evil. She's probably innocent, but Nerwen is a smart one, so you never really know.

Lari:

#195 looks suspicious to me. Sure, it's Day1 and nobody knows anything yet, but the reasons she gives for her considerations are either joking or weak. Sally she has no idea about and Brinn she forgets, which probably speaks against her guilt.

#373: both Sally and Brinn are innocent to her. Afterwards she gets entangled into the Durelin-lynch, and suspiciously so, even though the "save Fea" thing doesn't look so bad anymore.

YesterDay she flip-flops from wanting to lynch Fea to defending her (and everything in between) all the time. Tries to deflect the Fea-save-suspicions on Rune. She gets a bit tangled up in her own arguments.

ToDay she hasn't yet committed to either side.

Lari's still the most suspicious thing I have.

I'll try to have another look at others from my list, but I'm not sure whether I'll make it. Maybe the wraiths will be merciful.

Nerwen · 01-28-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brinniel

Because she thinks enough of you have already retracted once that I'm doomed to die whether you change your mind about me or not. That might be so...though the voting might actually be closer than she thinks.

You'd think she'd have checked first, wouldn't you?

All right. I have hesitated about retracting, mainly because I have rather lost faith in my own judgement after yesterDay, but this clinches it for me: I think Sally is simply trying to get us to lynch her instead of Brinn.

--Sally

++Brinniel.

And if by any chance we're wrong and Lommy is evil and Brinn is the real Seer... well, she was probably done for anyway.

EDIT: X'd with Lari.

Mirandir · 01-28-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

You do of course realize that Brinn never said she dreamed me as a wraith. She said she dreamed me and I am a wraith. Big difference.

But Lommy did dream of you as a wraith (I think; I don't really have the time or energy to go sifting through a million back posts to find it) and she's the one I'm inclined to believe.

EDIT: x-ed with Berry and Nerwen

Nerwen · 01-28-2009, 09:03 PM

Wait, I'm back. Trip postponed due to bushfire danger (RL in these parts can get nearly as exciting as WW sometimes).

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Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

I'll let my Sally vote stand for now, as I can be reasonably sure she's a wraith.

*scratches head* Both Seer-claimants say Sally is a wraith. Sally says Sally is a wraith... and you're only "reasonably" sure?

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Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

This seer business should clear itself up soon enough when we see who the wolves try to kill.

The only person here who really ought to worry about who is the real Seer at this point is the Ranger, whose task it will be to protect her tonight. The ranger should find out who is actually the seer by dawn tomorrow if she survives, and if she dies we'll know who to lynch. Of course, the wraiths could choose not to kill the Seer, but that probably wouldn't put them in a good position.

And if the Ranger chooses the wrong "Seer" to protect?
EDIT: X'd with Sally and Beregond.

01-28-2009, 09:03 PM	#4
Beregond Playful Ghoul Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,251	Erm, sorry for being thick, but what difference? __________________ "Hope and memory shall live still in some hidden valley where the grass is green."

01-28-2009, 08:33 PM	#1
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	*I don't hic* care which of you ish the real hic innkeeper, jusht get another beer! I'll let my Sally** vote stand for now, as I can be reasonably sure she's a wraith. This seer business should clear itself up soon enough when we see who the wolves try to kill. The only person here who really ought to worry about who is the real Seer at this point is the Ranger, whose task it will be to protect her tonight. The ranger should find out who is actually the seer by dawn tomorrow if she survives, and if she dies we'll know who to lynch. Of course, the wraiths could choose not to kill the Seer, but that probably wouldn't put them in a good position. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

01-28-2009, 08:46 PM	#2
Mirandir Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CT/NY Posts: 681	While I do think that sally is definitely a wraith (one of the few things both "seers" agree on), I agree with whoever said it earlier that it makes more sense for us to lynch Brinn. Her death will leave us with more information. So for now, I'll vote for her but reserve the ability to retract later if my over-tired brain comes up with something different or better justification. ++Brinniel __________________ Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.

01-28-2009, 08:55 PM	#3
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	snickers You do of course realize that Brinn never said she dreamed me as a wraith. She said she dreamed me and I am a wraith. Big difference. snickers as she reads the bit about only having one retraction per day Just putting that possibility out there. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

01-28-2009, 10:09 PM	#7
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Lily: In #247 she lists Brinn as innocent (though she uses maybe a few too many words to state it). Her opinion of Sally ("there was something but I can't find it anymore") sounds genuine. YesterDay she has no read on Sally and defends Brinn. She lacks suspects yet nobody votes her for that, how unfair. None of the other opinions she expressed really point toward her being evil. Defending Brinn, being undecided about Sally, and lacking other suspects - I surely sympathise with that. Also, Brinn pursues her a bit, in a way that doesn't appear wraith-on-wraith-ish. I have no reason to suspect her. Nerwen: If she's evil, then her Day1-vote must annoy her in hindsight: she could have lynched the seer (both!)! Abstains from voting on Day2. Analyses the end of Day2 and reaches softer conclusions than I did. She's quite determinedly after Fea, a bit in Legate and Rikae's smoke screen. She consider voting me and short before the deadline gets on Sally's trail. She's constrained by time. What she says does not point towards evil. She's probably innocent, but Nerwen is a smart one, so you never really know. Lari: #195 looks suspicious to me. Sure, it's Day1 and nobody knows anything yet, but the reasons she gives for her considerations are either joking or weak. Sally she has no idea about and Brinn she forgets, which probably speaks against her guilt. #373: both Sally and Brinn are innocent to her. Afterwards she gets entangled into the Durelin-lynch, and suspiciously so, even though the "save Fea" thing doesn't look so bad anymore. YesterDay she flip-flops from wanting to lynch Fea to defending her (and everything in between) all the time. Tries to deflect the Fea-save-suspicions on Rune. She gets a bit tangled up in her own arguments. ToDay she hasn't yet committed to either side. Lari's still the most suspicious thing I have. I'll try to have another look at others from my list, but I'm not sure whether I'll make it. Maybe the wraiths will be merciful.