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Old 01-28-2009, 05:29 AM   #1
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Oh my, well, as you can see, even the best players (meaning myself, of course) can make mistakes. But really, I was so convinced that Fea must be some Cobbler - I mean, how comes? She behaved really unbelievably sillily (in my opinion).

And now Lommy says Mac is innocent. Okay. Had she not said it, I would have tried, with all my authority (that has been severely damaged after yesterDay's lynch), to lynch him. Now that undermines my trust in my opinions in this game being right even more. But whatever. I can still do something. Maybe.

As for Lommy's claim. I believe you, because I think it fits. I was actually wondering about that yesterDay, when you voted sally - I only thought you perhaps may have dreamt of sally before, and thus were voting her. But in that case, I would be surprised if the Wolves did not target you. I am still a bit surprised. But then, perhaps they were so sure who Frodo is that they decided to get him before he can reveal? If that is the case, they must be better than we are - for at least when it comes to myself, I have no idea who that might be.

Okay, while one may be worried whether Lommy is not an impersonator after all, I am going to give it a shot, not get too overcomplicated and just believe her. There is nothing better for me to do now. And even if you are impersonator, Lommy, it will be known after toDay, if we lynch let's say sally. Let's also hope a Ranger may protect you this Night and thus, you get another dream.

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I just got a weird gut-feeling (err not like those *coughseerishcough* "gut-feelings" mentioned in my yesterDay's summary ) that Legate is Frodo. Interesting.
But I can assure you I am not.
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Old 01-28-2009, 06:17 AM   #2
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Well, I'm sure the wraiths are happy now. Not only did they get to stand by (more or less - unless Legate is one) and watch Fea be lynched, and now have Legate and I as perfect scapegoats for the next lynch, but they have Frodo as well.
I assume that you knew the risks by attacking a person so agressivly as did. . .

Personaly I don't think it makes Legate look as the obvious scapegoat, he was more after Mac than Fea, but of course we have just learned that Mac is innocent.

Anyways I won't be around much today, it is my mothers birthday so I will be gone most of the day and I cannot stay up all night until deadline because I have to take care of my brother tomorrow.(he is sick)

I will make a post of more substans before I leave.
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Old 01-28-2009, 06:58 AM   #3
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In answer to my own question: no, all Brinniel does is say that a would-be wraith Frodo would do best to play the part of a loyal but inconspicuous villager– basically to fly under the radar. And we don't know if Frodo took her advice anyway.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:13 AM   #4
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12 votes in 3 days and yet alive - and now I will probably be wraith-killed soon. What an end.

And I was so looking forward to feuding with Legate toDay.

When I read that Frodo was turned I was going to do the "told ya" thing about the importance of lynching a wraith early. Now that we do have two of them, it looks a lot better. We also have two Days to contemplate who the third original wraith is, and by the end of that time span, Fraitho has probably done something to incriminate himself.

Wait... the wraiths probably went after somebody who looked seerish. Maybe we can find a lead to Frodo by looking at who looked seerish yesterDay. Then again, with Brinn and Sally high on her list with little reason, who looked more seerish than our actual seer? Well, we'll see.

As a quasi-known innocent I should try to give a lot of input toDay. I'll be away for some time and I'm still sick, but I'll give my best.
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That wouldn't make sense. I think it'd be more important to kill the seer first and concentrate on finding Frodo only afterwards. Either the wolves didn't figure she was the seer or had a reason to leave her alive, which seems unlikely given that she was suspecting at least two of them.
That's what I thought as well. The thing that makes sense to me besides what you said is only that they would have spotted Frodo, been very certain of him, and decided to kill (wraithise) him before he can reveal to the village.

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Mac, you are still looking horribly sinister to me, had I not had the word that you are innocent, believe me, I would have suggested lynching you again. You are behaving horribly fishi-ly. However, after yesterDay, I am not that worried about it, as my suspicions seem to mislead me in this game completely

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Old 01-28-2009, 07:24 AM   #6
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This is good news! Nice work, Lommy, and I think you did the right thing (sure, revealing after Brinn and Sally had a chance to talk a little would have been slightly better, but they've already done quite a bit of talking while thinking they were safe).
I thought the wraiths would have used the Durelin-wagon to their advantage, and so they did.
I hope Brinn's edgy posts of Day 1 were genuine, and not a wraithish plot, since that would be quite un-sporting. (I've been accused of that type of play, but I never actually did it. Wolves have feelings, too!)

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I think Rune and Brinn's fight looks a bit too ugly for a staged wolf-on-wolf. (Or is it actually so ugly it can't be real? Hmmm...)
The latter possibility reminds me of the time Legate's attempt to distance himself from me as a fellow wolf led innocent Mac to send a PM scolding Legate for being mean to me.

Hm, well, one thing I just want to point out at the moment is that, although he's obviously no lynch target for the next couple Days, we shouldn't discount the possibility that Mac is indeed Ferny. I know I said he wasn't, but that was largely based on his failure to pick up my hints that I was a wraith who had been given his name. But on second thought, Mac doesn't tend to be one to look very hard for hints. Fact is, he did engage in Fernyish behavior and is worth keeping an eye on.

Both of us have to go run some errands this morning, so we won't be around for a while (plus, my semester's started, so I won't be participating as much as before from now on, anyway. Guess I'll lose the highest-post-count, then. Oh well.)

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Old 01-28-2009, 07:28 AM   #7
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I just remembered something else I wanted to say about Mac - the reason I think he's worth mentioning at all: he hasn't behaved like an ordo. He's been far more careful than he is as one (and yes, I think he's careful in spite of the celebrated "slips", which were more like hints. That politeness Legate mentioned, I guess.)
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Greenie's assuring she believes Lommy's claim for now looks a bit weird. I don't know, it's just the way she systematically brings up things; Lommy would be a bold wolf to do that, but then again... Today would be the perfect time to impersonate the seer, but then again... She could be Ferny, but then again... And in the end she kind of apologies for trying to make us feel worse about Lom
That post looked a bit fishy to me, too. Although Greenie as an earlier wolf companion to Sally and Brinn doesn't seem really likely, could she be Frodo?

That reminds me - I thought Agan Frodoish early on. Better take another look.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:44 AM   #9
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Oh, jeez. I shouldn't have said what I did above. Now I've gone and messed up our chances of the wraiths making a mistake. Rikae = doof.
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Bah, well, as long as I'm talking about it anyway... jeez, he could have ignored my hints because he *didn't* send his own name to the wraiths after all. In fact, I can think of a reason why he wouldn't... oh, I'm so stupid... *headdesk*
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That post looked a bit fishy to me, too. Although Greenie as an earlier wolf companion to Sally and Brinn doesn't seem really likely, could she be Frodo?
Yeah that's what occurred to me as well.

Anyway I've been looking at the voting but don't really know what I'm trying to achieve, apart from looking at the first day bandwagon where Brinn could have been lynched. I'm not nearly done yet but I have to leave now. So much for napping.
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I hope Brinn's edgy posts of Day 1 were genuine, and not a wraithish plot, since that would be quite un-sporting. (I've been accused of that type of play, but I never actually did it. Wolves have feelings, too!)
I hope so too.

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Oh, that was cute. Good old times...

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Hm, well, one thing I just want to point out at the moment is that, although he's obviously no lynch target for the next couple Days, we shouldn't discount the possibility that Mac is indeed Ferny. I know I said he wasn't, but that was largely based on his failure to pick up my hints that I was a wraith who had been given his name. But on second thought, Mac doesn't tend to be one to look very hard for hints. Fact is, he did engage in Fernyish behavior and is worth keeping an eye on.
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I just remembered something else I wanted to say about Mac - the reason I think he's worth mentioning at all: he hasn't behaved like an ordo. He's been far more careful than he is as one (and yes, I think he's careful in spite of the celebrated "slips", which were more like hints. That politeness Legate mentioned, I guess.)
Hmm, now that I think of it, a MacFerny (Scottish) is not as impossible (although, like I said, I am not trusting myself anymore). But, in either case, we should be careful, as when Fea wasn't, somebody is still Ferny - somebody around here, and for certain, somebody far more careful than an average Cobbler (although perhaps he was just lucky that there was Fea around to steal his or her fame At least in some people's eyes).

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Lommy's time was up. She stayed awake anxiously for hours after Brinn's death. As night wore she began to wonder if maybe the ranger was watching over her. That had to be it. Dawn was fast approaching and Brinn's companions hadn't appeared.

Lommy sighed with relief. She'd live to see another day. However, as Lommy climbed into her bed the door to her home open. She didn't hear it because she was already asleep, dreaming pleasantly. The three remaining wraiths crept into Lommy's room. The innkeeper's disguise had come off and now Butterbur had to die.

~*~*~

Lommy was found in the morning with her eyes caught out and her skull cracked open. The wraiths had nailed her eyes to the wall. Her brain had been removed hastily and with no real care, bits of it scattered the floor. No one could locate the wayward brain. It couldn't have escaped during the attack.

The villagers searched the entire house. Finally they came across a pie sitting on the kitchen table. It was red and had an unpleasant oder emitting from it. The wraiths had put Lommy's brain into a pie as a means of exacting their revenge from Brinn's death.

The Prancing Pony had lost its innkeeper and the village had lost its seer.

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Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
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Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
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Rikae's voice was hoarse from the screaming match with Sally. She was settling down for a nice cup of tea when something outside rustled. Forgetting the terror presented by the wraiths, Rikae found she was more afraid of Rune and his rock of silence.

She peaked out her front window to see if a disgruntled Rune was lurking in the shadows. He wasn't. She returned to her comfy chair. It was probably in her mind. Or hiding in the closet.

~*~*~

The next morning the village found Rikae still in her chair. However she was missing her skin. Her muscle was exposed and her organs were threatening to ooze out. Some already had. The wraiths had decided having her skin was too much of a hassle, so they relieved her of it.

But the left her skin behind as a gift to the village. It was nailed draped over her kitchen table as a semi-tablecloth. Too bad her blood ruined the wood finish.

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Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
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Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
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satansaloser2005 – Brained by Rune Day 5 (wraith)
Rikae – Skinned alive Night 6 (innocent)
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Lets see what you make of this

That is disgusting, it reminds you of that Robbie Williams music video doesn't it? except she isn't moving. . . .

I don't understand why nobody has posted yet. . .have everybody been out in the nightlife saturday or what is the explanation here?

I will be checking what happens on the tread the next hours and comment on what is going on, but I have other stuff to do at the same time.
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I have taken a look at our friend Gandhi-buri-Gandhi. (Ha! Should that be Gandhi-Berry-Gandhi, after all???)

I am not sure if he would be so bold as a newbie Wolf to react to Brinn, of all people, in his first post of all:
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And Brinn on him at the very beginning:
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Beregond: How many nicknames does this poor guy have? I see some newbie-ish behaviour, but overall I think he's doing well for his first game. And I certainly won't underestimate the possibility of a newbie being a wraith.
I've lost count. Thank you! I feel terribly newbie-ish.
That does not look quite incriminating on first sight.

On Brinn and Sally, he is not very specific in his lists:
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Brinn - tend to think she's innocent, but not wanting to underestimate
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Sally, Fea, Lari, Mira - not making themselves suspicious
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Brinn: the only thing about her is I didn't understand why she was so surprised when Fea (and myself) commented about Rikae. Besides this incident, I'm not sure where Brinn stands. I'm going to be watching her, but she's safe for now because I don't have much to go on.
(...)
Sally: didn't post enough today.
In general, nothing concrete against them. Now that might be a reason - a newbie Wolf trying not to say anything concrete about his packmates. But then, again, he is generally very... well, indecisive, or how to say that, about people.

Also, his going for Mac on the first two Days, and in fact, he stated, he wanted to go for him even on the third, look innocentish - as if a (newbie) innocent suspected a person. His vote for Fea troubles me a little, it could have been hiding something in the general frenzy. But as a Wolf, he really gained nothing by that - unless he was planning to save Mac, a possible Cobbler ally.

He also had some exchange with Brinn concerning Rikae's "Seer revelation", however, it was Brinn who started it, not him. A newbie Wolf would hardly have started that, but Brinn could - to sort of put in order (and "interrogate" him before somebody else does that, which might have been more dangerous) the newbie Wolf who made a mistake by concerning himself too much with Rikae's revealing joke.

My question would be - what was Brinniel (the known Wolf, let's bear in mind!) following by this? By initiating this talk, I mean? As it didn't seem like incriminating Beregond, or was it?

He was for lynching Brinn instead of Sally... it looks like he came to that via his own thinking process, on the run, so to say... (as he was first going for sally, but later he joined the cause for Brinn in its very beginning, before more people even started to support voting Brinn).

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That could be an attempt from a Wolf to defend the Seerishness of a fellow Wolf, but I tend to doubt it. Wouldn't it be a bit weird and, well, dangerous? Not very comfortable for either of them...

All in all, I am inclined to see him as likely innocent, and very likely not like Frodo, either (Frodo would have been more careful, I believe. Also, generally thinking, I am not sure if the Wolves would have picked Beregond as a target, of all people, unless they thought he is Frodo - which he seemingly, again, isn't - or does not make that impression, I'd think).

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot. With voting Mac first, he was jumping on the existing suspicion, but then again, he was not alone who thought that, not at all... and at the time Durelin was being voted for, it would have been perhaps easier for a newbie Wolf to go with the flow and vote Durelin, yet he decided to vote for Mac - who was likewise innocent (as we now know as well). So, again, not sure if a Wolf would do that...
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So, now, if I recapitulate the stage in which I am now:

I think our Wolf (at least the one who wasn't Frodo at first) isn't:

Beregond
Rune
- for both, see my recent "excavations"

(though I think they are not even Frodo, at least those two. Bere the most.)

I think our Wolf rather isn't:
Nerwen - same as above
A Little Green - from before. She still seems innocentish to me.

I would be inclined to believe our Wolf isn't:
Lariren Shadow - After reading her posts... well, her style is consistent (doesn't look like Frodo coming here, not very openly, at least), and what Rikae says about her, when checking some of her posting for myself, for example this interaction with Brinn and Sally really looks un-wolfy.

I know our Wolf isn't:

Macalaure - he may be a Cobbler, but now that aside...

Oh my. And here it comes. That leaves me with:

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Great. Fantastic. Absolutely brilliant I am mainly referring to Aganzir there. Because I really can never discern whether she is not a Wolf. I never have any proofs. Of course not. And very often she just is. Eeeeek... Sally, Brinn... Agan? What kind of a village would that be... again?

As for Menel, think, like LG does as well, I am not voting him toDay. He is not around. I got mostly innocentish feeling from him this far, but again, with little posting, you get little. Mira... looked innocentish to me in some aspect, but... not really in any significant way. I have to go through her posts. She could also be a good Frodo, in my opinion.
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:02 AM   #18
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Kitanna is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.Kitanna is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.
The village was one less the next morning. Legate, the friendly town herring dealer was missing. Hoping that maybe he had overslept the village went to investigate.

Legate's home was a mess. Something large and hairy had been let in. Much to the horror of the village they found Greenie's bear, from her former bear taming career leashed in Legate's living room.

At one point in time Greenie and her bear, Fernado, had traveled across Middle-Earth, delighting spectators and performing daring acts. Now Fernado had Greenie's bloody shirt and a banana peel tied around his neck along with the leash. It seemed the wraiths had played on the bear's loyalty to Greenie and sent it after Legate to do their dirty work.

Fernado sat on the floor, picking at what was left of Legate. The wraiths had claimed another innocent villager.

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Kitanna – Made an example of Night 1 (moddess)
Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
Shastanis Althreduin – Forced to swallow a sword Night 2 (innocent)
Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
Thinlómien – Brain forcibly removed and made into a treat Night 5 (Butterbur)
satansaloser2005 – Brained by Rune Day 5 (wraith)
Rikae – Skinned alive Night 6 (innocent)
A Little Green – Slipped on a banana peel Day 6 (innocent)
Legate of Amon Lanc – Eaten by a bear Night 7 (innocent)
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:16 AM   #19
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Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.
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