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Shady She-Penguin
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Definitely unseerish on Day1. He's suspicious of Agan pretty consistently, but it does not look too seerish. I don't think the wraiths would have thought him to be the seer after day1, unless Agan is a wraith and they thought Nogrod is trying very carefully trying to hide his role. Oh, crap it all. I know. I bet the wolves were thinking something like: "Why is Nogrod making such an issue about Dury's ranger impersonation? Maybe because... he's the real ranger!" I think that'd make a lot of sense. More sense than any other explanation I'm coming up with at the moment. (His posts are not seerish, he would not actually make a good no-trace kill etc.) YesterDay's lynch Fea's sudden vote for Durelin later yesterDay is definitely fishy. Lari follows it just as fishily. (Any chances you're secretly Pisces by the horoscope, ladies? Mira votes Dury, cross-posting with Fea and Lari. Somehow it looks less fishy than Fea's vote, although there's no rational reason why it should. Maybe just because she's a newbie. Rune voted Dury before Mira. His vote looks simply fatalist. Brinn is the official protestor - or a wolf who can know how to make herself look good. Mac is just making sure he won't be the one to die. Nog and Beregond were late, and Mr Dwarf-city is dead by now and Rego's vote, I think, looks very innocent. edit: xed with Nerwing
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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All right, hello people, I am back. And I have not yet had the chance to read the thread as for what had happened yesterDay, but okay, I will try to do it... hopefully it won't take as long. So, more like so that you know I am here... as I might not show up for several hours again yet, depending on how fast I read
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I'm going to take my own look at the Durelin-voters. Back soon. EDIT: X'd with Legate.
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Rereading yesterDay's posts from the time after I went to sleep
I'm becoming a little uneasy about sally. I just think she might bear more watching than we've given her lately.
To sort of balance that, I'm becoming a bit more positive of Mac's innocence, but knowing how it's with me and him in ww, I will probably become convimced he's guilty before the end of the Day. ![]() Fea puzzles me. Her post complaining about the fake gifteds looks very innocent, but many other posts of hers look rather sinister. I don't quite like Lari's manner... she seems sneaky and somewhat nervous, if I may say so. Quote:
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Then again, a wraith Fea could consider herself seer-dreamt anyway and therefore behave suicidally. If there's another baddie in the Dury voters, I would guess it was Lari, but I don't think there necessarily is. It seems possible Lari and Mira were misled. Rune, I suppose, could also be evil, but, though I haven't played with him in quite a while. I seem to recall odd, erratic behavior being pretty normal for him. (I actually forgot he was part of it above, though). I don't want us to let Fea slip through the cracks, though. Like I said, she basically handed herself in. There is no way she actually thought Nog's case against Dury had any merit, and no way such a deception, at that time, could benefit the village. Unless we have someone else pop up and literally go "hey, I'm a wraith, lynch me", she's our best bet. I have another suspect at the moment who is climbing higher on my radar, but I think I'll refrain from making my case against xem for now & see if xe further incriminates xemself. |
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Shady She-Penguin
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Rikae, I agree. Fea looks rather fernyish, but not like a wraith. (Although, I have to add that an ordo Fea has been known to act really weirdly. Maybe she'll show up and explain.) But whatever, unless she looks more innocent toDay, lynching her might be a good back up plan. (But I'm worried of it becoming the official back up plan everybody can bring up and avoid naming any actual wraith suspects.
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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Yes, well, what do you expect. Anyway, don't expect from me to reply on anything, if anybody asks me anything, for the few following hours. You will have to wait. I will leave for a few hours now, I'll see if I can post commenting on at least some events from yesterDay before I leave, but then I will be back and finish it. Should not take THAT long... so, in some four or five hours, you should get me here "up-to-date" and ready to post in the currently running discussion
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PS. Mirandir is a she. ![]() edit: xed with Legate - well, you're right, I didn't expect anything else. ![]()
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The Death of Durelin.
I spent too long on this, and I'm not sure it's all that useful. But here it is anyway:
Note: only relevant sections are quoted/cited. Part One: La-la-la-I'm-Not-Listening #324.Nogrod makes a case on Durelin based on her Ranger-like IC posting at start of Day One. #325. Quote:
#348. Nogrod continues to find Durelin evil; has missed the point about her posting IC. #363. Durelin posts IC. #366.Durelin lists people who “bother" her (Brinn, me, Rikae, Nogrod and Fea) for various reasons. #367. Fea complains about Durelin's IC posting. #368. More IC posting from Durelin. This is perverse of her and probably helped get her killed. Note, however, that she only posted a few sentences. #371. Quote:
#373. Lari puts forward the theory that Kitanna would have made Durelin's hooded and cloaked character a wraith rather than a ranger. #374. Nogrod agree with Fea that Dury and Rikae are not behaving like innocents. #375. Quote:
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#378.Lari speculates that Durelin could be Evil Frodo, trying to get the wraiths to kill him at Night. #379. Quote:
Part Two: The Fea Fan-Club to the Rescue! And this is where it gets even weirder. Rune, Lari and possibly Mira act as though they have to save Fea from the lynch mob, even though she has no votes, and I think Nog's was the first mention of lynching her. #384. Quote:
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#397.Rune says he feels like lynching Agan or Durelin. #398.(replying to Mirandir's comment at #393). #400. Quote:
#403.Fea says Durelin should be posting content, not just in character narration. #405.Rune votes Durelin (no reason given– apparently to save Fea). #406. Mirandir votes Durelin: "Posting IC 40 minutes before deadline seems like a strange move, and it makes me very suspicious." #407. Brinn votes Fea. #409. Mac votes Durelin (no reason given). #410. Quote:
#413. Brinniel say she does not like "this Durelin bandwagon". #415. Nogrod votes Durelin. Comments: Mac's vote is probably self defence, as I think he had two or three votes himself at that point. The reasons for the other votes boil down to: "we must save Fea!" and "Durelin's pretending to be the Ranger! Get her!" Nogrod (known innocent) started the case on Dury, Fea seized on it, and Lari and Mira followed Fea, and then Rune joined in when the idea of lynching Fea came up. Early in the piece, everyone was told that Durelin was simply playing a character she had described before the roles were given out. They... well, basically, they just didn't care. ![]() Durelin did contribute to her downfall a bit by going on with the IC posting... but there were actually only a couple of posts like that, and she made other comments. Conclusion: Fea is probably evil, and seems to have led the lynch-mob, but is more likely Ferny than a wraith. (Although she might be a wraith pretending to be Ferny, in the hope that the Seer won't dream her, or we won't bother lynching her, or something.) I still can't tell whether Lari and Mira are acting more like manipulated newbies or like newbie wolves. And I have no idea what Rune was thinking of, except that he did mention he was drunk. So... yeah. That was weird. EDIT: fixed quotes. EDIT2: paraphrased for easier reading. X'd with lots of people. EDIT3:fixed bolding.
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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All right. This goes slower than I anticipated. For now, I will post some comments on what happened since I posted the last on Day 1. I have not read yet the rest, so it is possible I say something which is already "outdated" (had been discussed since then) and possible I will change my opinions on something later. However, still better that I post something now than only later.
MY THOUGHTS IN THIS POST, SUMMED UP (i.e. whoever does not want to read through all this, may as well read just this and get the main points): Menel looks like his normal self, whatever that is, but he may be innocent. He likely IS innocent, actually. I don't see anything so suspicious about Brinn. Fea looks to me like a Cobbler; and Mac still like a possible Wraith. Sally cannot be well defined. Rikae looks innocent to me. Rune is a bit sleeping under my reindeer, but whatever. He may be innocent: most of his posts are innocent-like, however they are of the "detached" sort - they often have little to do with game itself, but are turning around people's RL actions, which I think is nothing that concerns the topic of who is the Wolf. Nerwen looks sometimes innocent, but may be a well-calculating Wolf. (Something a bit like what Aganzir often is.) It is hard about Mira, there is a possibility of a newbie wolf, but not really anything too suspicious here in truth. *** Now starts the "boring" part. ( ![]() Rikae, 152: Quote:
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And Fea just does not help me at all. I still suspect her. Her list posted without any explanations for those she finds suspicious, and her explanations at those she does not want to vote are not much better either... those for Rikae and Mac, I mean. Quote:
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I like Nerwen (post 167), though it is true she may be a calculative wolf, trying to appear like a good and innocent person in the eyes of the others. Which I could expect from her - if she is one. I like Brinn's comments on Frodo (168), although it is just more of a "fair play" style and it has little to do with the in-game thing itself, so it looks more like a question of opinion (on how one should handle the Frodo role, that is). But anyway... Okay, Rune (170) acts kind of weird against Brinn, I think, these RL reasons... though I don't believe a Wolf would use such "unfair" tactics to make Brinn being suspected... so it looks to me that Rune would be likely innocent. It is explainable that he wants to stab Brinn with a rusty knife after her last WW performance. Menel looks innocent. What does not help Fea in my eyes is her vote on Day 1 (178): Quote:
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Nerwen #184 looks more unnerving - it looks like listing the people everybody wants to lynch, sometimes for quite easy reasons (Gollum), so really giving herself a relatively wide choice (it won't be even a problem to incorporate some wolf into the lot, still she could choose some of the others). Quote:
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Rikae looks overall innocent to me, despite I can see there may be things looking suspicious on her, I don't think they are anything more than her own opinion. Rikae looks innocent to me. Sally - 193: I don't like that either: Quote:
But on the other hand, Sally seems like just Sally at times, so hard to say. Her reason for voting him rather than Brinn or Lommy is not necessary a suspicious thing, quite the opposite - and especially if it turns out Mac is a Wolf. Mac: Quote:
Well, as for the Gollum lynch at the end of the Day 1: Mac has a logical reason to wish to lynch Gollum (be he a Wolf or not), as for others, on first sight, of course it was wrong (as it showed later), but explainable. So, nothing much special in there for me on first sight.
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Woman of Secret Shadow
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Hello I just came home, have a horrible headache & need to leave in a few hours because of going to theatre with my Swedish group (ewrgh). I also have two papers to write for tomorrow which means I'm not going to be too loud today.
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And I'm not going to go through your posts, at least for now. I don't find it necessary. Because I simply can't believe you would go after me with such reasons if you were a wolf. Okay onto other things. Quote:
I don't know why but Mira has started to bother me a little. I might want to read through her posts when I have time. And now I read Lari's summary and it's the same with her. I am also getting a bad feeling about Rune. He annoys me & doesn't make sense. Okay, it might be because he was drunk yesterday but still. To be honest I have no idea why you ended up lynching Durelin. Mira's vote (or the reasoning for it) seems the most suspicious to me but I need to read her posts before forming a proper opinion. Quote:
I think Lommy's idea of the wraiths thinking Nog was the real ranger is a good one.
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I find it funny how Mac goes from claiming Fea's guilt to claiming her innocence within a few hours. (But it does make sense, so it makes me amused more than suspicious. ![]() Quote:
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Mellifluous Maia
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Some would. I did exactly that once as a wolf. However, I think you're probably right in thinking Rune most likely wouldn't. Quote:
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If she's a cobbler, it's much the same situation. Now Mac, Lari and Lommy have all repeated this assumption that Fea is only suspicious because Nog died. Utter nonsense! I, for one, was ready to lynch Fea before deadline fell yesterDay (and would have switched my vote, had I been on my own computer instead of Mac's laptop. I can't type fast on that thing.) Nog's death doesn't even make Fea more suspicious. The most a living Nog would have done is offered a runner-up to Fea in lynchability, and he had a built-in excuse (Lommy's comment about drinking too much wine). Now you're all making me talk about Fea more. ![]() Last edited by Rikae; 01-26-2009 at 01:05 PM. Reason: Fixing messed-up spacing. |
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