T-I-G LVI: Panic at the Prancing Pony

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Who did 'er in, then?

You, most probably.

I have only twenty minutes now, so excuse me for bantering this little. Off to business then...

There's eighteen of us and only three ringwraiths. Granted, there's an informer to help them, but still, I would say our situation looks quite good.

Which exactly might be the problem. Villages with the setting that favours the innocent surprisingly often leads to their loss, because they become careless and entangled in silly discussions because they feel no hurry to catch the wolves. So let's not do that this time.

And *hint hint* that also means we could move away from banter to more serious suttf, if anyone has anything at all to say.

So maybe I'll start about that.

My opinion on this bantering? It annoys me a little because I subconsciously assume this game has already been going for for 5-8 hours although in reality, we only started 3h ago. So I should not be harsh.

But given that there were so many people around, one could imagine they'd have come up with something. Anything. Even such sort of useless and obvious discussion about roles and setting like I just started. So, do we have just a few ordos having fun? A cobbler messing around *glares at Gollum and sally* or even wolves who feel the most comfortable talking nonsense?

*happy sigh* I missed ww. Hmm, anyway, I'd better leave for work in ten minutes. I'll be back in ten hours or a bit more, I hope I can expect everybody has posted by then and that there will be talk - about other subjects than mattresses, drinks and stellar signs too....

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Besides, I'm far too adorable to be a wraith. Now who wants to buy me some ale? Legate?

Never, young one. Drinking is not for the young ones like you. You have to be accustomed to drinking. Could any Ringwraith pass me a drink?

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Oh, and clearly our troubles will be solved if everyone clearly states their birth sign.

A herring. Sorry, that would be pisces.

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

*Dodges* What are, you, a clown? Hey, that gives me a great idea! Join up with me on my next trip and I'll get you into a travelling circus!

Trying to get together, eh? An Informer and a Ringwraith, no less! Kill them!

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

There's eighteen of us and only three ringwraiths. Granted, there's an informer to help them, but still, I would say our situation looks quite good.

Which exactly might be the problem. Villages with the setting that favours the innocent surprisingly often leads to their loss, because they become careless and entangled in silly discussions because they feel no hurry to catch the wolves. So let's not do that this time.

And *hint hint* that also means we could move away from banter to more serious suttf, if anyone has anything at all to say.

So maybe I'll start about that.

My opinion on this bantering? It annoys me a little because I subconsciously assume this game has already been going for for 5-8 hours although in reality, we only started 3h ago. So I should not be harsh.

Now at least something in-game which makes me unnerved. Great As well as Brinn's post a little. But that is most likely just because they are the first ones to actually say something, which is of course a good thing for a Ringwraith to start turning suspicion towards some victims. Not that their points would be incorrect: we should really try to discuss something more important. But the Day has just started, and I hope people will acknowledge by themselves that it is reasonable to speak reasonable and not just mess around. But it's maybe just something in Lommy's phrasing which I find weird. But as it has been just one and quick post, then of course I will wait for further input to state anything. But I just wanted to say this, as it's far better than to say "bring me some ale", or even "we should discuss serious stuff" (which is not an information of any value by itself either. I always want to ask people who go around and post things like this, and nothing more, what serious things would they discuss. Or rather, perhaps they should instead lead by example and just do it).

P.S. I don't know what suttf is, but I certainly don't want to meet that in the middle of a dark alley at night.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

People are not postiiiing, yah-dah-dah-dadey...

Everybody's laaaa-zyyyy...

This way, comrades, this way we won't ever build that socialism.

Erm... okay. Hey, but our comrades in the Shire almost succeeded already... just need to get rid of a few Baggins exploiters and everything's gonna be fine...

The Shire needs five thousand new tractors. Why is there a weapons dealer, and not a tractor dealer?

All hail to the People's Republic of Michel Delving! Waiting for comrade Sharkey to arrive to set things right.

Hobbitton needs a new mill.

And what about our village? Are we going to stay behind? I take the pledge to supply Bree with five hundred herrings per day. Every herring is a serious blow to the Western imperialism. Which means probably the Dwarves from the Blue Mountains. Yeah, they think they have a monopoly on everything.

Bree needs to produce more charcoal! Heaps all over the edges of Chetwood.

Or are you not going to post in order to make me being silly here? Yes, pretty much succesful.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

But it's maybe just something in Lommy's phrasing which I find weird.

But what, though? That seems a bit of a hit-and-run suspicion, Legate. *looks at him hard*

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

People are not postiiiing, yah-dah-dah-dadey...

Everybody's laaaa-zyyyy...

Lazy? Drunk, my friend– or should I say comrade? My special brew is powerful stuff (as opposed to Suttf, who is clearly up to no good).

EDIT: x'd with Aganzir and Legate.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

But what, though? That seems a bit of a hit-and-run suspicion, Legate. *looks at him hard*

Just like that: the phrasing overall. I simply find it queer. But that is why I said I would have to see how things go further. It is by no means a suspicion yet, it is stating what I think at the moment. (And I can hardly think much, as almost nobody has posted anything yet.)

Lazy? Drunk, my friend– or should I say comrade? My special brew is powerful stuff (as opposed to Suttf, who is clearly up to no good).

True. Yes, I say we lynch him.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Legate

Who do you call a bunny? Are you not the person who calls rabbits conies, when you don't turn their Frodos to wolves? Or something very similar.

No, actually I call them Cobys.

Originally Posted by Legate

Unless the ordo tries to pretend to be a Wolf just to get him to his side.

Grr you're revealing all my plans.

Originally Posted by Legate

I guess we cannot do anything much sensible for the time being, especially as we won't know anyway who that is.

Yeah but would it help us or the wolves more if we pointed out Frodo-ish behaviour in others? That's what I meant.

Originally Posted by Legz

And it's probably better now for Frodo to stay put and hope the Ringwraith don't notice him.

The thing is, I'm not sure if Mr. Baggins wants to do that. If I was him I'd certainly try to get myself killed and become a wolf (but then again, I love being a wolf, whereas some people like to have different tactics. I remember my first game where Kit the Shade [kind of an assassin/seer/ranger] sided with the village against all odds [and killed me on the last night]).

For once it's not me who finds Lommy's phrasing suspicious.

I read through the thread with plans to make a Guilty/Innocent/Neither list, but decided against it. Lommy, Legate and Nerwen look innocent enough thus far, of the others I have absolutely nothing to say.

[Beregond]

Having labored all day to complete it, Beregond sharpens the edge of the sword he had made a week ago.

"It's not pretty, but it should get the job done. I've never been much use making blades, but I have been improving my art."

He sticks it deep into an old chipped and mangled wooden block in the corner of his shop. Then he checks the tip.

"Hmmm. Not bad, not bad. Been getting some pointers from Gollum. Creepy fellow, and talkative, but I've never met anyone so knowledgeable.

I'm going to keep this sword on my side from hereon. Can't be too careful. Can't get the image of... of... No, rather not think about that. What we need to do is find these wraiths, or whatever they are, and see they don't do us no more harm!

I have suspicions, but it's real hard to see under the cloaks, so to speak. And I've happened to notice, only nine out of the nineteen or so people in our village have even spoke out yet. Ten, now. But wouldn't a wraith want to stay out of the sunlight, so to speak? Maybe none of them have posted at all. But wraiths are crafty folk - so I've heard from the elders, I haven't seen them myself - and by posting they could avoid suspicion, or try. Now, like I said before Gollum is a strange one, and he talks more'n I've heard before, but I can't fix him as an evil one. Maybe I owe him too much. Who else, then: Sally? Shasta? Durelin? Nerwen? I dunno about them. I have a feeling Brinn could be something other than she seems - she was the first to really encourage proper discussion and then she left, almost to deflect suspicion and avoid notice all in one. I don't know about the rest of you, but I just don't know as she is who she says she is."

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I disagree with you Legate, I do not think that Brinn or Lommy has said anything of substanse. . . It is just the usual "look at me I am all serious about the game" nonsense that allways pops up, it is no more usefull than the in charachter banter, but it is less intertaining.

It would be foolish of me to assume them evil because of these comments, but it is worth taking a note about. It shows that they to some degree would like to be viewed as people who are focused on catching the evil-doers.

Anyways I am afraid I won't be around much today, I have many things that needs tending to.
(I am babysitting my little brother)

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Hello, children. I meant to stop in this morning at work, except I um... couldn't access the... village...

Anyway, I'm here and my only goal for day one is to try to scare wolves by attempting to vote for one, given that logically their only real fear on Day 1 is to be accidentally caught, since they haven't left behind any clues yet that could actually lead straight to them.

I think... Sally.

Sally shall be my go-to person for a lynch target for now.

She just seems to enthusiastic, and I tend to find that the more enthusiastic players on day one usually have a special role.

So I shall just go take a bit of my belladonna now, nap for a little while, take advantage of an unexpectedly free afternoon...

Awwww, thanks sweetheart. I feel so loved!

(Actually, I just REALLY didn't want to do my paper.)

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Sorry to come in this late but I actually had a 14-hour workday today and have basically just come home and eaten the first time today (10PM). I'll be reading next and come back then.

*hugs you* Poor kid. I hope you've got a full tummy (and leftovers ) and can get a chance to relax.



So, apparently Gollum has a vote. Good for Golly. Good Golly, in fact. (Two points. First, I am really sleep deprived. Second, Agan, I love you for coming up with that name. Made me giggle.) I'm almost certainly going to wait a while to vote (I actually plan on taking a nap, if no one minds) but I'm pretty sure I won't be voting him.

Anyway, to nap land, but I'll be back later and since I'm no longer trying to avoid my paper I'll probably post something of at least some substance.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Legate on Frodo

Well, that's you. I thought the basic idea was that he was supposed to try to be on the side of the goodies as long as possible, but I guess the rules would have to be more clear on that.

Yeah, I thought the same. If he's an ordo until changed, then I would assume he's "supposed to" behave as an ordo, i.e., try to help the village to win. (Although I can absolutely see the appeal of changing sides.... mwahahaha!)

Originally Posted by Lommy

Agan - you ruined my nice sort of plan by sounding innocent.

Rikae - I feel like an idiot.

Yeah, I can't put my finger on it, but somehow Agan's words have a ring of truth...

Don't feel like an idiot -actually, it was quite a funny pun when you pointed it out.

[Aganzir]

Good catch about Mac Lommy. Because that just looks like either "Hey I'm Billy and I'm gonna give you my name this night!" or "Hey Billy would you like to give us your name?".

Originally Posted by Legz

I thought the basic idea was that he was supposed to try to be on the side of the goodies as long as possible

I recall Kitanna said it's up to the RB in the admin thread... At least I think so. It might have been another thing as well.

Originally Posted by Legz

What? I must have missed something. Or are you pulling something, Nogrod? (Or I am dumb?)

You remember how Aragorn was first pictured in Lotr?

Originally Posted by Lomz

Agan - you ruined my nice sort of plan by sounding innocent.

Sorry love.

Okay I'll go take a shower & be back to vote. I find it immensely unfair though that you only start posting when I want to go to sleep!

edit: xed with Rune, Berry & sally

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Good catch about Mac Lommy. Because that just looks like either "Hey I'm Billy and I'm gonna give you my name this night!" or "Hey Billy would you like to give us your name?".

Well, now that you drag it all out in the open, it could just as well be intended to confuse Billy and/or the wraiths.

[Rikae]

Ah, here it is:

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Good catch about Mac Lommy. Because that just looks like either "Hey I'm Billy and I'm gonna give you my name this night!" or "Hey Billy would you like to give us your name?"

Lommy didn't say that (at least, not anywhere I can see). What she did say:

Originally Posted by Lommy

Something in this phrasing troubles me a little... I don't like it how much Mac has been thinking about this (or then I don't like the fact that I don't see how Ferny can identify himself to the wolves, but whatever, under no circumstances say it aloud) nor do I like him saying "this end". What the ?? It sounds like he was a wraith and made a silly slip.

[Gollum the Great]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

This way, comrades, this way we won't ever build that socialism.

Socialism! *Is scared out of mind* Evil Legate, I for one will not redistribute my property amongst the great unwashed! *Closes Castle drawbridge* Ahh! Now my loot- that is to say my well earned capital will remain in competent hands.

[Gollum the Great]

I agree with whoever it was that situation looks good. For the moment. What seems to be overlooked is that hanging over the Pony like the Sword of Damacles is the danger of losing an ordo and gaining another wraith. The Ringbearer will be their prime target and we cant spend valuable time chit-chatting (like me, for instance). Once a couple of Wraiths are gone then we'll be on fairly solid ground. Also I agree with the other whoever it was that Beregond and Mirandir should be given a day or two- but not necessarily the game. Remember me in Di's game, using "newbieness" as a cloak for for my evil? I hope there isn't a repetition of that here.

[Beregond]

Well, I'm not cloaking anything, and I'd like to survive as much as the next guy!

I'd "discuss" if I knew what that meant. How can we find and protect the Ringbearer? Or should we eliminate the Ringbearer to remove the threat? Do we even want to discover the Ringbearer, or should that person stay hidden from all?

EDIT: Lots of crossing! You can call me Bere, in fact, please do - that's the only shortened version I have for this alias.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Beregond

I'd "discuss" if I knew what that meant. How can we find and protect the Ringbearer? Or should we eliminate the Ringbearer to remove the threat? Do we even want to discover the Ringbearer, or should that person stay hidden from all?

Well the Ringbearer is an ordo for now, but xer death is probably only a matter of time. I think the best thing to do might be to remain quiet about who we think could be the RB and bring these points up only if the wolves get xem. Then we wouldn't help the wraiths or Billy to find xer, either.

edit: xed with Mira

[Aganzir]

Hello bunnies.

What is it that the day has been going for six hours and there's already two pages? I'm not used to this. *okay reads the two pages and is not surprised anymore*

I am concerned about Menel based solely on the narration. Something more sinister just sounds awfully bad!

Originally Posted by Shasta

Oh, and clearly our troubles will be solved if everyone clearly states their birth sign.

I'm Capricorn. Or Sagittarius. I'm not quite sure which one. I wonder what that makes me, Sagittarius being a fire sign and Capricorn an earth one.

Originally Posted by Brinn

feel free to help yourself to some pie.

Thank you! Mmm... this is goo- WHAT? A finger!

Originally Posted by Lommy

There's eighteen of us and only three ringwraiths. Granted, there's an informer to help them, but still, I would say our situation looks quite good.

Thus far. However I find it quite possible the wraiths will learn Ferny's identity soon enough as xe can give them xer opinions etc. Plus, if the wraiths attack the Ring-bearer they get a fourth member to their team. In the worst case there might sooner or later be five baddies around.

I'm not overly fond of the banter either. I find showing off with my post count worth my while only when I've actually posted some serious substance.

Originally Posted by Legate

A herring. Sorry, that would be pisces.

Liar. You're Cancer. That is, a crab.

Okay some things about the roles.

The seer cannot trust xer dreams completely as Ferny is revealed as an ordo. I assume Ferny counts as an ordo in numbers, then, too? Has the seer dreamed already?

I wonder what should be done with Frodo. We might not want to lynch xem as long as xe's an ordo but we also wouldn't like to get xem wolf-killed.

Comrade Legate is being sensible. However, the situation being as it is, I think the Socialist Republic of Breeland needs a strong intelligency agency to spy on every citizen in order to find the wrongdoers. Let's make this a police state until things are solved!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Hello bunnies.

Who do you call a bunny? Are you not the person who calls rabbits conies, when you don't turn their Frodos to wolves? Or something very similar.

Thus far. However I find it quite possible the wraiths will learn Ferny's identity soon enough as xe can give them xer opinions etc. Plus, if the wraiths attack the Ring-bearer they get a fourth member to their team. In the worst case there might sooner or later be five baddies around.

Well, there is still enough of us for the time being. And there is quite a large chance that, hopefully, we may lynch a Wolf, or the Informer, or in the worst case, poor Mr. Frodo (still better than lynching just an ordinary Ordo, or a Gifted, of course). However, and here I agree with what's been said here, we really should not overestimate our situation and try to go after the wolves as hard as if there were nine of them.

Liar. You're Cancer. That is, a crab.

Not from a Jedi.

Sorry, I meant to say: Not in this village.

The seer cannot trust xer dreams completely as Ferny is revealed as an ordo. I assume Ferny counts as an ordo in numbers, then, too?

I would assume so. Although it makes little sense, if there are let's say one Wolf and one ordo and the Informer remaining, and they are to vote, the Informer would of course vote for the ordo. Unless the ordo tries to pretend to be a Wolf just to get him to his side. Now, that would be pretty impressive!

I wonder what should be done with Frodo. We might not want to lynch xem as long as xe's an ordo but we also wouldn't like to get xem wolf-killed.

I guess we cannot do anything much sensible for the time being, especially as we won't know anyway who that is. And it's probably better now for Frodo to stay put and hope the Ringwraith don't notice him.

Comrade Legate is being sensible. However, the situation being as it is, I think the Socialist Republic of Breeland needs a strong intelligency agency to spy on every citizen in order to find the wrongdoers. Let's make this a police state until things are solved!

Police state? You are being suspiciously eager, comrade. I suggest we place you to the workcamp in Fornost for a while, to see what happens.