Rohan and Lorien

[Tuor in Gondolin]

And Rohanites, for all their undoubted virtues, were not noted
for farsighted diplomacy, witness their shortsighted
treatment of the Dunlanders (whose territory they
did occupy- reminiscent of American Indian and
aboiriginal history), especially since the people of
Dunland were alienated but were secure in the
borders near Rohan (somewhat the way Afghans have
reacted to repeated foreign incursions). Also the unwise,
if granted generally justified, treatment of Freca by Helm-which
contributed to Rohan's occupation.

Btw, in PJ's flawed TTT movie, I liked the bit of having Helm
Hammerhand's statue in the courtyard without specific
allusiion (rather like the trolls in the much better FOTR).