T-I-G LV Sing when you're winning

[the phantom]

Anyone have a vote summary from yesterday? It would be nice.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Anyone have a vote summary from yesterday? It would be nice.

If there isn't one up when I get off work (~10-15 minutes) I'll do one before I go to class.

[Boromir88]

I'm done with the gloom and bleak outlook...the news was a bad choice for me. I turn on the tube and they're testing what happens when you throw a large goose into a jet engine. Ugh...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I'm done with the gloom and bleak outlook...the news was a bad choice for me. I turn on the tube and they're testing what happens when you throw a large goose into a jet engine. Ugh...

On the news?!? I once saw that on an episode of Mythbusters.

Getting off work now. Heading back to campus, then doing vote tally.


ETA: Well, it wasn't a goose, it was a chicken I believe, but still. Good episode. Vote count coming shortly.

[Boromir88]

On the news?!? I once saw that on an episode of Mythbusters.~sally

I know that's why I came back here...

What do we have? I'm no longer assuming anything except my own innocence, Agan's, and that tp can't die again and it's pointless to go that route.

That leaves, in no specifice order...

sally
Lari
Gwath
Shasta
Kath

2 critics, 1 cobbler, 1 divo.

I'm none of the above. It still might be beneficial for the divo to stay hidden unless in danger of a lynch today, but I'll leave that up to the divo.

I'll go through to see who fits either as critic or cobbler. Our hands are tied, we virtually have to get critics now, Walter counts in our tally. It will be beneficial to try and oust walter if to do nothing else than give us someone we know is not a critic, and see if Walter knows a critic and attempts to save the known critic.

[Boromir88]

sally I guess is on the vote tally, I will let you know, I'm highly suspicious of you girl but it might be better to try and get everyone involved here. If there's any trickery we can notice.

Other points to look at...why the Mac choice last night? Why not take the known innocent Agan? Why not some one else? We can look through all the vote tally's to try and find Walter as well. I was hoping if we couldn't get Walter, than the wolves would accidentally kill him off. But in this sneak set up, votes could be a way to clue the critics into who Walter spied on the previous night. Maybe there is something a little more evil behind those who missed votes? Did Walter abstain from voting when xe spied and found a wolf? That is a signal, and how does each of the remaining people's votes coincide with the wolf choices?

[Lariren Shadow]

Mac's dead?!

Huh, well, that changes my plan for today of "get Mac". And I have to go through and see about the votes as well. And I really thought Gollum was a critic too.

To be honest, I don't think the divo/a should revel themselves today. Critics could then post that they are the real one. We won't know who is the real divo/a. It's a great ploy to do that too, considering that's the only innocent gifted left.

[satansaloser2005]

Sorry, I am indeed on the vote tally, but I had a thought, and I am admittedly too lazy (and a bit crunched for time presently) to read over the rules again.


Does the other soulmate necessarily HAVE to be an ordo?

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I'm done with the gloom and bleak outlook...the news was a bad choice for me. I turn on the tube and they're testing what happens when you throw a large goose into a jet engine. Ugh...

Blimey - what is wrong with the media ... managing to turn a rare happy story of survival due to the great skill of pilot and crew into a gorefest...anyone would think they were sorry there were no casualties... Anyway...digression...

[Aganzir]

Note to self: stop obsessing.

Originally Posted by phantom to Boro

And you know precisely where to find shoes, don't you?

Yes, I'd imagine he does.

Sally why do you think Boro is innocent?

The bad thing is, I'm still alive and I'm going to be busy tomorrow because of a stupid school thing. The good thing is, Mac is dead and I can finally concentrate on others properly.

Originally Posted by sally

Does the other soulmate necessarily HAVE to be an ordo?

Yup. Even if it wasn't stated in the rules, Mith said it later.

I don't think the diva/divo should believe people who tell xem not to reveal, but decide for xemself. Two known innocents today wouldn't be a bad thing, and even if someone else tried to pose as xem, we'd find them out soon enough.

I don't trust anyone of you and least of all phantom.

[Boromir88]

And what did you mean about Nog, if you don't mind my asking?~sally

Nog's not really important, just asking if on Day 1 when he voted for you if he was on the right trail.

Yes, I'd imagine he does.~Agan

Well I do have 4 pairs of black dress shoes, and 1 pair of brown ones, plus some sandals, a pair of boots, and a pair of walking shoes...so I guess for a gentleman that is an excessive amount of shoes, but I would feel safe in saying everyone here can find their shoes lying around somewhere. If you're trying to suggest what I think you're suggesting, it'd be best for you to stop.

[Aganzir]

What kind of boots are they? I like old military style boots (or fascist boots as some people I know call them).

Originally Posted by Boromir88

it'd be best for you to stop.

Ah but why? I'm bored.

Although I probably shouldn't be, I should be doing something useful. Like going through posts. However it's rather late and I have to wake up early tomorrow.
I'll see if I can come up with something before going to sleep.

I would really like to hear more from Shasta today.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Nog's not really important, just asking if on Day 1 when he voted for you if he was on the right trail.

Ah, gotcha. And not that I expect you to take my word for it, but no, he wasn't.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

[B]
Well I do have 4 pairs of black dress shoes, and 1 pair of brown ones, plus some sandals, a pair of boots, and a pair of walking shoes...so I guess for a gentleman that is an excessive amount of shoes

Err what would you say was an excessive amount of shoes for a lady?
Otherwise could someone enlighten a poor befuddled Moddess (by PM if necessary what this is about?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Err what would you say was an excessive amount of shoes for a lady?
Otherwise could someone enlighten a poor befuddled Moddess (by PM if necessary what this is about?

Love, you can never have too many shoes.


(13 more posts to my 1k!)

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Love, you can never have too many shoes.

Oh really?

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Love, you can never have too many shoes.


(13 more posts to my 1k!)

Well it does occur that I have many pairs of shoes few of which I ever wear....

And I have twigged about shoes..and googled cleats....

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Lari

To be honest, I don't think the divo/a should revel themselves today. Critics could then post that they are the real one. We won't know who is the real divo/a.

Nah. The real Divo will have a way to prove his identity. It is doubtful the claim would be challenged.

Unless the Critic or Walter had planned, from the very beginning, on the possibility of a false reveal, in which case they would have a way to "prove" themselves as well. But there aren't many who would plan in detail that far ahead for things that are unlikely to ever happen.

But that isn't to say that there is no advantage to be gained from a hidden Divo. There is. But of course it's all useless if a baddie is not lynched today.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Nah. The real Divo will have a way to prove his identity. It is doubtful the claim would be challenged.

And you know this how, exactly?

Blah, I'm being a terrible person and popping out from class for a bit. Best get back soon. (We're not even watching the X-Files, much to my chagrin. )

EDIT: Heading back to class now, back later. Make lots of shiny posts for Miss Sally whilst I'm gone, savvy?
EDIT #2: Just noticed Phantom's location. *smiles and toddles off*

[the phantom]

On the subject of shoes....
-black formal
-brown formal
-4 casual everyday
-snow boots
-water shoes
-running
-tennis
-basketball
-hiking
-cleats
-slippers

Grand total: 14

Verdict: Not excessive. All serve a specific purpose.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Sally why do you think Boro is innocent?

Just a feeling. You I know are innocent, he strikes me as innocent.

The bad thing is, I'm still alive and I'm going to be busy tomorrow because of a stupid school thing. The good thing is, Mac is dead and I can finally concentrate on others properly.

I don't think the diva/divo should believe people who tell xem not to reveal, but decide for xemself. Two known innocents today wouldn't be a bad thing, and even if someone else tried to pose as xem, we'd find them out soon enough.

Agreed. That's the only secret left to the critics, the identity of our diva/devo, so the longer we keep that hidden the better.

I don't trust anyone of you and least of all phantom.

I don't know why Phantom would betray us. How exactly would he benefit from that?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

JAgreed. That's the only secret left to the critics, the identity of our diva/devo, so the longer we keep that hidden the better.

Actually I'm rather for xer revealing, but that's just my opinion. I don't know how likely it is that the critics don't already know xer identity, and therefore there's a risk that xer abstaining from revealing benefits the critics more than us.

Originally Posted by sally

I don't know why Phantom would betray us. How exactly would he benefit from that?

I don't think he'd exactly betray us - it's more like that he posts without caring which side he's helping, and he could do it just for fun. How else could he amuse himself during these boring days of not being allowed to vote? He isn't on our side, either. That's why I'm not really trusting him.

edit: xed with phantom & sally

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I don't know how likely it is that the critics don't already know xer identity, and therefore there's a risk that xer abstaining from revealing benefits the critics more than us.

And if the critics do know who the divo (or diva, as the case may be) is, then they aren't likely to be too concerned about keeping the cobbler around anymore.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

And if the critics do know who the divo (or diva, as the case may be) is, then they aren't likely to be too concerned about keeping the cobbler around anymore.

The cobbler can always help them in the end. With a vote, for example. And if the critics know the diva/divo's identity, they just want xem to stay hidden so the village wouldn't get a known innocent.

After all the diva/divo can be lynched.

[the phantom]

Did you hear the news?

Concentric Circles Emanating From Glowing Red Dot!!

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Anyone have a vote summary from yesterday? It would be nice.

You're very particular for a ghost.

(Name that book!)

EDIT: (And don't google the quote!)

[the phantom]

Think holiday songs.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Gwath

I think because knowing who is innocent will make it easier for us to figure out who is not.

Or you all could just vote a little earlier. That way if you have voted for the Divo he can let you know and there will still be plenty of time to think about what you will change your vote to. (And this way the Divo doesn't have to step out needlessly.)

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Think holiday songs.

[satansaloser2005]

*googled, but just to check her suspicions*

Ah, very nice, Gwath dear.

Back but soon going to supper. And thus I leave you with a quote (which I didn't even realize I knew....weird....)

"Permit me thus to be torn from thee." (Well, at least until my tummy's full.)

(As with Gwath's, no googling. Enjoy, darlings~!)

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

*googled, but just to check her suspicions*

Ah, very nice, Gwath dear.

Back but soon going to supper. And thus I leave you with a quote (which I didn't even realize I knew....weird....)

"Permit me thus to be torn from thee." (Well, at least until my tummy's full.)

(As with Gwath's, no googling. Enjoy, darlings~!)

As long as you don't call me "Gwathie."

Well...it's not Shakespeare, but that's all I can say for sure. That, and I wish it were. Shakespeare, I mean.

[the phantom]

But of course there is this....

If I had been assigned the role of Walter, I would have, without a doubt, seen the benefits in impersonating the Divo. I mean, usually a suspected gifted would get killed in the Night, and thus when you keep living and keep living a gifted impersonator would be swiftly suspected.

But not if you're impersonating the Divo, for they cannot be killed at night, and so it would be no wonder that you continue living. It is protection from the village and the Critics to be the suspected Divo. And thus I would have, right from the start, set out some clues that, upon looking back, would "prove" my claim as the Divo.

So, if our resident Walter sings the same way I do, he will be as likely as the Divo to be believed. In that case an early reveal (as in now) would indeed be nice.

[Mithalwen]

Lot earlier than Uncle Bill, Gwathagor....

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

As long as you don't call me "Gwathie."

Well...it's not Shakespeare, but that's all I can say for sure. That, and I wish it were. Shakespeare, I mean.

I considered it but decided against, in favor of, ya know, not being killed.


Indeed, not our dear Billy Bob. Think back a bit (read, while) farther.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

You're very particular for a ghost.

(Name that book!)

EDIT: (And don't google the quote!)

Shall if I want to *pouts*..and you have no idea what weird stuff I got before I put the quotation marks in....

[Aganzir]

See, if we lynch an innocent today and an innocent dies in the night (which will happen because the wolves know they are able to kill at least me), we lose. It'd be 3-2 for the wolves as the cobbler can join them then.

And I don't want to see a critic about to be lynched today come out shouting, 'I'm the diva!' and have some poor wavering soul retract and vote someone else just because they don't want to risk killing xem. Also, it's usually difficult for an innocent to predict how the vote goes.

Gwath, I'm not planning to become a dictator... yet. And though I wear a uniform I was not born to fight.

edit: xed with phantom. I will probably have to vote early (ie an hour or two before deadline) because I've promised to go to cinema with some friends and the movie they want to see begins at, erm, don't remember. Around deadline anyway.