Tol-in-Gaurhoth LIV: The Council of Evil

[satansaloser2005]

Seriously, nine hours with no posts?



No, I didn't die, but not for lack of trying. (Read that I got rather ill and decided to take a nap, not that I need to see a counselor. Just so that's clear.) I'm actually going to bed now but I'll be back up in a few hours and I will discuss Menel's posts, I promise.

[Kath]

Thanks for those posts by Menel sally, I've been reading them through but I think I'm getting more confused as I go. I would never have pegged him as the Seer and even now with that knowledge and his posts I'm having trouble working out who on earth he dreamt of.

He mentions Gwath, says that he thinks he could be a traitor. That might indicate a first Night dream except that a couple of Days later he drops suspicion of Gwath in favour of Strongbow, who has now been proven innocent and so cannot have been a dream.

I think he might have actually dreamt of Agan and found her innocent. He argues with her a bit and then pretty much clears her apart from saying that going after Brinn was odd.

He mentions me but I'm not sure what to make of that. Whether he did dream of me and so mention and then clear me within the Day or just based his opinion on my posts. I don't know whether he would start the Day basically announcing who he's dreamt of but in that subtle way - though I suppose it wasn't that subtle to everyone if the wolves figured him out. I guess that would be true for whether he dreamt of Agan too though as he mentioned her early in the Day and then sort of cleared her by the end of it.

And again with sally I'm unsure because even after posting and using the words 'evil sally' and things that might suggest he's dreamt of her and found her evil he goes and votes for Strongbow who we know he cannot have dreamt of.

I think we can be sure that Menel hadn't dreamt of two wolves even if he dreamt of every person above or surely he would have revealed. And Gollum said there was no before game dream so there will only have been two I believe.

So I think the choice for those he might have dreamt of given the posts that he made would be:
Gwath
Agan
Kath
sally

I am not sure which of those he actually dreamt of because I don't know his style. If he does actually mention who he dreamt of early in the Day and then says what he found out later then I would think he dreamt of Agan and/or me and/or Gwath and found whoever innocent.

The thing with sally is that the way he talks about her is different to the way he mentions everyone else on that list which does make me think he found out something different about her - but would he really have voted for someone he didn't know the role of over someone he knew to be a wolf?

[Aganzir]

Thanks for posting those quotes sally. And yes a post requires at least one letter in addition to quotes.

This should teach me to wait before revealing because if I was just someone Menel had probably dreamed of and found innocent the wolves might have come after me next night. Unless they had figured I was the hunter. Maybe.

I don't really know what to make of Menel's posts. He might have dreamed of me, but then again he did misinterpret some things in my posts.

He keeps toying with the Gwath/Bowie thing but doesn't indicate having dreamt of either. Bowie was innocent, and his mistrust of them included the idea of them both being wolves, so I don't know. I don't think he has dreamt of Gwath, but then there's this

Originally Posted by Menel

I'm really getting some negative vibes about the arguments between Gwathagor and Strongbow.

I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the possibility he had dreamed of an evil Kath, naming her as the most capable of killing Boro and Nog. However his next post doesn't give that impression - if he had dreamed of her, why didn't he try to find something suspicious in her posts then?

The Evil Sally bolding caught my eye already yesterday because it isn't that usual that adjectives are bolded as well, and it might be a hint... But why didn't he vote sally then? Hmm he was the first to vote and I think I was the only one expressing constant suspicion of sally and it was not at all obvious that she'd be voted. Also, if sally's evil, it's possible he didn't want to draw her attention to himself by voting her.

One thing leaves me wondering - why am I still alive? Did the baddies have me figured out early (which I wouldn't be very surprised of) or did they just have more important people to kill? To be honest I would have quite expected to die last night.
Did they guess Menel was the seer or was he just a random kill? Unlike Boro and Nog, he isn't a very loud player, but he's one of the old school guys.

Garr I don't know anything.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Thanks for posting those quotes sally. And yes a post requires at least one letter in addition to quotes.

Heh. Yeah, it took me a bit, because I've done something like that before and it worked, but not on this board. I'm a special child. *facepalms*

Well, off to Menel land. Back in a couple minutes.

[satansaloser2005]

Attention!

I realized when I multi-quoted the posts one wasn't added, so I put it in. Just so you can all (both, the way it's going right now) see it.

I'm basically done with my analysis, but I need to do that post now since I realized I'd missed it. Give me like five or ten minutes so I can take care of bolding and things in my post and add the rest of it in, and I'll be back.