Tol-in-Gaurhoth LIV: The Council of Evil - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gwathagor · 12-28-2008, 12:21 AM

I'm sorry I missed yesterDay. I was out skiing.

There isn't a lot of discussion to work with yet toDay, so I'll just do some solo pondering.

I have the same question as Aganzir: why has there only been one kill per night thus far? I can think of only a couple different possibilities. Either the wolves or the werebear might be waiting to let the other party flush out the hunter - this seems more likely to be a werebear tactic, since time is on its side, whereas the wolves really have to kill as much as possible if they are going to win - particularly since there's only two of them. It's also possible that the werebear (I find it very unlikely that BOTH wolves could have forgotten their kill BOTH Nights in a row - at least one of them would surely be around to send in a kill choice to the mod) might have skipped its kills as a misdirection or through neglect. This makes the most sense to me. The bear is probably either someone like Shasta or Isabellkya, who I believe are the low posters so far, or someone trying to make us think it's Shasta or Isabellkya.

If this wasn't helpful to you, sorry. It was helpful to me.

Meneltarmacil · 12-28-2008, 12:48 AM

OK, so the traitors have killed Nogrod and Boromir88 thus far, which brings me to an interesting conclusion.

We have somebody who knows which innocents are troublesome and which aren't. Someone intelligent and experienced is probably working against us, driving us into confusion by hitting our best and brightest.

With this information, I find Kath to be the most capable of carrying this sort of plan out. She's been around many werewolf-plagued villages here and is likely familiar with people's playing styles. I don't have the time for it now, but later toDay I will look through her posts and put up an analysis of her behavior.

Aganzir · 12-28-2008, 06:26 AM

What about lynching sally today?

I think it might be worth a try, and even if she's innocent, we can afford it. I got this inexplicable bad feeling about her yesterDay when she started posting, and it just got worse in the Night. The way she was somehow controlling the discussion... A certain determination.

Shasta I'm fine with you playing.

Gwath, it's also possible that they take turns in killing but somehow the kills make me doubt it because it would mean there are three players who are fine with killing the loudmouths at first.

Menel, the killers needn't necessarily be experienced to kill off Boro and Nog. It's enough that they know even a little about everyone as players, which I suppose everyone does.

Kath · 12-28-2008, 07:01 AM

Is there any particular reason you would want to lynch sally apart from a bad feeling Agan? Because I'm getting pretty much the opposite feel on her so I'd like to know where your suspicion of her has come from.

Menel, I think your argument about someone with experience killing the wolves is a good one but I wonder how you ended up with me as a wolf when people like sally, Agan, Gwath and Shasta are also around and know the players just as well.

Aganzir · 12-28-2008, 08:36 AM

And there's also Eönwë who has played with probably all of us, and Bowie who hasn't played but gives the impression of being aware of what kind of players we are. And Izzy but I doubt she'd come to post a kill yet not be here in the day.

Kath it's mostly just a bad feeling about sally, but an exceptionally strong one, and I find it hard to concentrate on anyone else properly as long as sally is alive.

(Ooh by the way, lovely avvie sally.

<3)

Okay I try to elaborate.

It's somehow the way sally was so keen on analysing Boro's death, and later also Nog's. Anyone could have done it; 'X would have had this reason to kill him but then again there's also this aspect...'

Quote:

Originally Posted by sally

Point is, either Boro's death was random, a bluff, or a deliberate kill because of how Boro plays. Great. That tells us nothing.

And her resolution. I know she's one of the few who are being loud but still, it looks weird.

Garr I just don't know. Something in her feels wrong but I can't put my finger on it, just can't.

satansaloser2005 · 12-28-2008, 09:37 AM

Well, sweetie, there's not terrible lots to talk about.

I just can't do anything right in these games, can I?

Aganzir · 12-28-2008, 09:44 AM

Sally you do, I just can't help this. It's irrational.

And with loud players dying one by one I'm not sure how much I like the idea of lynching you... However right now I feel you're my best bet.

Sorry I haven't been posting anything but currently my post count is almost twice that of anyone else's and I don't have the energy to go through the thread once again.

12-28-2008, 12:21 AM	#1
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	I'm sorry I missed yesterDay. I was out skiing. There isn't a lot of discussion to work with yet toDay, so I'll just do some solo pondering. I have the same question as Aganzir: why has there only been one kill per night thus far? I can think of only a couple different possibilities. Either the wolves or the werebear might be waiting to let the other party flush out the hunter - this seems more likely to be a werebear tactic, since time is on its side, whereas the wolves really have to kill as much as possible if they are going to win - particularly since there's only two of them. It's also possible that the werebear (I find it very unlikely that BOTH wolves could have forgotten their kill BOTH Nights in a row - at least one of them would surely be around to send in a kill choice to the mod) might have skipped its kills as a misdirection or through neglect. This makes the most sense to me. The bear is probably either someone like Shasta or Isabellkya, who I believe are the low posters so far, or someone trying to make us think it's Shasta or Isabellkya. If this wasn't helpful to you, sorry. It was helpful to me. __________________ Stories and songs.

12-28-2008, 12:48 AM	#2
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	OK, so the traitors have killed Nogrod and Boromir88 thus far, which brings me to an interesting conclusion. We have somebody who knows which innocents are troublesome and which aren't. Someone intelligent and experienced is probably working against us, driving us into confusion by hitting our best and brightest. With this information, I find Kath to be the most capable of carrying this sort of plan out. She's been around many werewolf-plagued villages here and is likely familiar with people's playing styles. I don't have the time for it now, but later toDay I will look through her posts and put up an analysis of her behavior. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

12-28-2008, 06:26 AM	#3
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	What about lynching sally today? I think it might be worth a try, and even if she's innocent, we can afford it. I got this inexplicable bad feeling about her yesterDay when she started posting, and it just got worse in the Night. The way she was somehow controlling the discussion... A certain determination. Shasta I'm fine with you playing. Gwath, it's also possible that they take turns in killing but somehow the kills make me doubt it because it would mean there are three players who are fine with killing the loudmouths at first. Menel, the killers needn't necessarily be experienced to kill off Boro and Nog. It's enough that they know even a little about everyone as players, which I suppose everyone does. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

12-28-2008, 07:01 AM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Is there any particular reason you would want to lynch sally apart from a bad feeling Agan? Because I'm getting pretty much the opposite feel on her so I'd like to know where your suspicion of her has come from. Menel, I think your argument about someone with experience killing the wolves is a good one but I wonder how you ended up with me as a wolf when people like sally, Agan, Gwath and Shasta are also around and know the players just as well. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

12-28-2008, 09:37 AM	#6
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Well, sweetie, there's not terrible lots to talk about. I just can't do anything right in these games, can I? __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

12-28-2008, 09:44 AM	#7
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Sally you do, I just can't help this. It's irrational. And with loud players dying one by one I'm not sure how much I like the idea of lynching you... However right now I feel you're my best bet. Sorry I haven't been posting anything but currently my post count is almost twice that of anyone else's and I don't have the energy to go through the thread once again. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.