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Strongbow · 12-27-2008, 11:17 AM

Well, I think I'd like to hear a bit more from Shasta (I know the interwebs is on the fritz for him) and Isabell (don't know what is up with Isabell), and I'm having a hard time reading Kath and Nog because of the lack of contact.

Ergo, I will remain silent until there is more to say. However:

Gollum - who was torn apart in the Night?

Edit: For format!

satansaloser2005 · 12-27-2008, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongbow

Well, I think I'd like to hear a bit more from Shasta (I know the interwebs is on the fritz for him) and Isabell (don't know what is up with Isabell), and I'm having a hard time reading Kath and Nog because of the lack of contact.

Ergo, I will remain silent until there is more to say. However:

Gollum - who was torn apart in the Night?

Edit: For format!

I don't think the night's over. Or is it?

Gollum the Great · 12-27-2008, 02:50 PM

The night will be over soon; perhaps your clock is off Strongbow?

Strongbow · 12-27-2008, 04:29 PM

Maybe I was just insAaAaAAane.

Oops.

satansaloser2005 · 12-27-2008, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongbow

Maybe I was just insAaAaAAane.

Oops.

Hehe. Silence, precious. The night ends in 25 minutes.

Gollum the Great · 12-27-2008, 05:17 PM

After a sleepless night spent mulling over the various issues, the Council gathered once again in the main hall. A terrible spectacle awaited them.

The chamber's one source of light, a huge iron lamp of sorts, hung in the centre of the room, over the table the Councilors sat at. And under this device, dangling from his own entrails, was Nogrod.

His eyes were burst from their orbits, his messy blood almost entirely coated him and the table, and his gaping jaw was smashed. And as the Council gazed incredulously at the gory spectacle a devil's voice laughed, but when they looked around they saw no one but themselves.

Luckily surviving:

Aganzir
Eonwe
Gwathagor
Isabellkya
Kath
Meneltarmacil
Sally
Shasta
Strongbow

Dead/gone:

Boro (inno)
Brinn (inno)
Ilya (inno)
Nogrod (inno)

satansaloser2005 · 12-27-2008, 05:20 PM

Oh....my....

*looks at death list and lets her jaw drop to the floor*

(Back in a minute. Gonna do a quick vote tally, and I mean quick, as there weren't many votes.)

Aganzir · 12-27-2008, 05:30 PM

Just a quick post I'm at Lommy's.

Ack what's this thing. I'm not quite happy with two of the scariest loudmouths dying in a row (especially as Nog wasn't even around yesterday) and I can't see any reason why someone would want to kill them this early. In my opinion this would point at rather inexperienced (or quiet) wolves who want to get rid of the most dangerous players at first.

So did the bear still choose not to kill or do the wolves and the bear both get a kill every second night?

I find it alarming there's still two players who haven't posted (okay Shasta has net issues but just where's Izzy?).

However due to only one kill a night we're not that badly off now.

satansaloser2005 · 12-27-2008, 08:05 PM

Well, wolves, I hope you're happy. An hour and a half of nothing.

Kath · 12-27-2008, 08:33 PM

Seriously, 5 people didn't vote yesterDay? I could understand it on Day 1 as there was a lot of confusion over whether the game had started, myself included, but on Day 2 after an extra long Night to help people catch up ... that's just mad. Even Nog didn't vote and he's usually one of the keenest to be around at the deadline. Have we heard anything from Shasta and Izzy at all? I would like to hear from those who didn't vote yesterDay, whether it was due to RL busyness or something else it would be good to know at least.

I'm on my way to bed so I won't post much now but right now I'm liking the look of sally. She is actually being helpful I think rather than talking a lot and trying to look helpful.

I'll be back in the morning (RL) with some more thoughts.

satansaloser2005 · 12-27-2008, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kath

Seriously, 5 people didn't vote yesterDay? I could understand it on Day 1 as there was a lot of confusion over whether the game had started, myself included, but on Day 2 after an extra long Night to help people catch up ... that's just mad. Even Nog didn't vote and he's usually one of the keenest to be around at the deadline. Have we heard anything from Shasta and Izzy at all? I would like to hear from those who didn't vote yesterDay, whether it was due to RL busyness or something else it would be good to know at least.

I'm on my way to bed so I won't post much now but right now I'm liking the look of sally. She is actually being helpful I think rather than talking a lot and trying to look helpful.

I'll be back in the morning (RL) with some more thoughts.

....So I'm alone again?

Fabulous.

I think Shasta's internet's been funny the last couple days, but I don't know about the rest. I just wish people would talk.

Meneltarmacil · 12-28-2008, 12:21 PM

I've gone through Kath's posts, sparse as they are. The only one of substance was near the end of Day 2, and aside for some strangeness in backing me on my misguided ideas about Aganzir, I can't find anything that jumps out as suspicious. She does have a good point toDay about other experienced parties; I'd forgotten just how long they'd been around due to my long absence.

Eönwë · 12-28-2008, 01:50 PM

There isn't really much I can say about other people, as I'm feeling the same way about most of them. Just two things to note:

-Aganzir- She was starting to look more suspicious in my mind, but if she really is seriously considering voting Sally then I think she's innocent, as she will be only loud player left (other than Strongbow), and people will start looking at her more closely (there's not really much of a choice).

-The Gwath-Strongbow thing. I assume it was just because Gwathagor was the only one there at the time. And because we have such quiet days, people are just picking (pecking probably fits it better) at any little thing others have said until it starts getting a little violent. And then they suddenly stop. So I'm not suspecting any of you much more, but Gwathagor stays where is on my suspicion list and Strongbow goes down two- I'm looking at you more carefully now.

edit: I do think Gwath has a point, though- he just overreacted a little.

Just clarifying and fixing spelling mistakes

Aganzir · 12-28-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sally

I honestly don't mind people suspecting me -really, I don't, it's part of the game- but I don't like that I'm usually suspected for no reason.

Trust me I know the feeling.

Kath, I don't know why but I think sally reminds me more of a bear than a wolf... And I know I should go find some evidence but it's difficult because this is so irrational. Well let's see what I can do while I'm here.

Bowie it was just a theory. If you're ready to vote yourself because of it, you're overreacting.

Also, since your comment about players saying they're active ie innocent was quite clearly directed to me, I ask you to point out where I've used my activity as an argument for my innocence. I have used it as an argument for not bothering to post but that's all. Certainly not everybody but too many are so quiet it feels a bit frustrating to sit online the whole day.

In my experience here on the Downs posting much nonsense doesn't help give an active impression. It requires some actual substance.

Also, for one posting only serious analysis you have surprisingly many two-liners, Bowie. I don't like being accused of posting not entirely necessary posts by someone who isn't that much better off himself.

In sally's defence I must say she always posts the vote counts. They can be useful if someone bothers to take a look, or then not.

I agree with Gwath about Bowie's threat. We have two options: either to take your word on it and trust in your innocence, or actually lynch you to check. If you don't have that much suspicion against you it's not very likely we bothered to lynch you yet. So no I'm not taking your threat seriously. You could be bluffing very very easily.

Strongbow · 12-28-2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Trust me I know the feeling.

Kath, I don't know why but I think sally reminds me more of a bear than a wolf... And I know I should go find some evidence but it's difficult because this is so irrational. Well let's see what I can do while I'm here.

Bowie it was just a theory. If you're ready to vote yourself because of it, you're overreacting.

Also, since your comment about players saying they're active ie innocent was quite clearly directed to me, I ask you to point out where I've used my activity as an argument for my innocence. I have used it as an argument for not bothering to post but that's all. Certainly not everybody but too many are so quiet it feels a bit frustrating to sit online the whole day.

In my experience here on the Downs posting much nonsense doesn't help give an active impression. It requires some actual substance.

Also, for one posting only serious analysis you have surprisingly many two-liners, Bowie. I don't like being accused of posting not entirely necessary posts by someone who isn't that much better off himself.

I overreact because I am absolutely innocent. I am aggressive because I am absolutely innocent. I will continue to be aggressive and will continue to overeact until I am lynched or nightkilled. I am not going to pull any punches when it comes to suspicion towards me.

The "active therefore innocent" comment is not directed at you, and I'm sorry that it came out that way.

It is me merely being purist about that sort of thing. (Where I first played mafia, you couldn't wish the mod a happy birthday without being accused of lurking and being in the mafia. In fact, I was lynched once because of it.) If I stepped on your toes, Agan, I'll put Band-Aids on them myself.

x'd with Gwath and Agan

Aganzir · 12-28-2008, 03:13 PM

GUILTY
sally. I'm so sorry dear, I can't help this.

INNOCENT
Gwath is the one I'm actually feeling the best about for the time being.
Eönwë is the other one. I'm not quite as sure as with Gwath but I find no reason to be worried about him either.
Menel looks rather innocent again now that the flip flopping issue was cleared.

NEITHER
Kath. I seem to disagree with her on so many things I can't trust her but I'm not willing label her as Guilty yet, though. I might want to check her posts later.
Bowie. Earlier he seemed innocent enough but I don't know anymore. He's somehow a bit jumpy to defend himself, and his last suggestion to vote himself really looked overreactive to me. I don't know how much I should put down on his relative newness but he's one I might consider voting for later on.
Shasta. I have nothing against keeping him alive. However if your net doesn't get fixed soon is there any chance you could use computer in, say, a public library?
Izzy. Dunno what should be done with her. If she's not the bear, is there any chance the bear would want to be nice and just kill her off, at least if there's no way we could get a word to her? I suppose our hunter is normal in the way s/he doesn't have any special killing abilities unless s/he's attacked?

edit: xed with Bowie

12-27-2008, 11:17 AM	#1
Strongbow Wight Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South of the Capital Wasteland Posts: 119	Well, I think I'd like to hear a bit more from Shasta (I know the interwebs is on the fritz for him) and Isabell (don't know what is up with Isabell), and I'm having a hard time reading Kath and Nog because of the lack of contact. Ergo, I will remain silent until there is more to say. However: Gollum - who was torn apart in the Night? Edit: For format! __________________ Is é gáire ár gcuid páistí a bheas mar dhíoltas againn. - Roibeard Gearóid Ó Seachnasaigh

12-27-2008, 02:50 PM	#3
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	The night will be over soon; perhaps your clock is off Strongbow? __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

12-27-2008, 04:29 PM	#4
Strongbow Wight Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South of the Capital Wasteland Posts: 119	Maybe I was just insAaAaAAane. Oops. __________________ Is é gáire ár gcuid páistí a bheas mar dhíoltas againn. - Roibeard Gearóid Ó Seachnasaigh

12-27-2008, 05:17 PM	#6
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	After a sleepless night spent mulling over the various issues, the Council gathered once again in the main hall. A terrible spectacle awaited them. The chamber's one source of light, a huge iron lamp of sorts, hung in the centre of the room, over the table the Councilors sat at. And under this device, dangling from his own entrails, was Nogrod. His eyes were burst from their orbits, his messy blood almost entirely coated him and the table, and his gaping jaw was smashed. And as the Council gazed incredulously at the gory spectacle a devil's voice laughed, but when they looked around they saw no one but themselves. Luckily surviving: Aganzir Eonwe Gwathagor Isabellkya Kath Meneltarmacil Sally Shasta Strongbow Dead/gone: Boro (inno) Brinn (inno) Ilya (inno) Nogrod (inno) __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

12-27-2008, 05:20 PM	#7
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Oh....my.... looks at death list and lets her jaw drop to the floor (Back in a minute. Gonna do a quick vote tally, and I mean quick, as there weren't many votes.) __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

12-27-2008, 05:30 PM	#8
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Just a quick post I'm at Lommy's. Ack what's this thing. I'm not quite happy with two of the scariest loudmouths dying in a row (especially as Nog wasn't even around yesterday) and I can't see any reason why someone would want to kill them this early. In my opinion this would point at rather inexperienced (or quiet) wolves who want to get rid of the most dangerous players at first. So did the bear still choose not to kill or do the wolves and the bear both get a kill every second night? I find it alarming there's still two players who haven't posted (okay Shasta has net issues but just where's Izzy?). However due to only one kill a night we're not that badly off now. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

12-27-2008, 08:05 PM	#9
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Well, wolves, I hope you're happy. An hour and a half of nothing. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

12-27-2008, 08:33 PM	#10
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Seriously, 5 people didn't vote yesterDay? I could understand it on Day 1 as there was a lot of confusion over whether the game had started, myself included, but on Day 2 after an extra long Night to help people catch up ... that's just mad. Even Nog didn't vote and he's usually one of the keenest to be around at the deadline. Have we heard anything from Shasta and Izzy at all? I would like to hear from those who didn't vote yesterDay, whether it was due to RL busyness or something else it would be good to know at least. I'm on my way to bed so I won't post much now but right now I'm liking the look of sally. She is actually being helpful I think rather than talking a lot and trying to look helpful. I'll be back in the morning (RL) with some more thoughts. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

12-28-2008, 12:21 PM	#12
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	I've gone through Kath's posts, sparse as they are. The only one of substance was near the end of Day 2, and aside for some strangeness in backing me on my misguided ideas about Aganzir, I can't find anything that jumps out as suspicious. She does have a good point toDay about other experienced parties; I'd forgotten just how long they'd been around due to my long absence. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

12-28-2008, 01:50 PM	#13
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	There isn't really much I can say about other people, as I'm feeling the same way about most of them. Just two things to note: -Aganzir- She was starting to look more suspicious in my mind, but if she really is seriously considering voting Sally then I think she's innocent, as she will be only loud player left (other than Strongbow), and people will start looking at her more closely (there's not really much of a choice). -The Gwath-Strongbow thing. I assume it was just because Gwathagor was the only one there at the time. And because we have such quiet days, people are just picking (pecking probably fits it better) at any little thing others have said until it starts getting a little violent. And then they suddenly stop. So I'm not suspecting any of you much more, but Gwathagor stays where is on my suspicion list and Strongbow goes down two- I'm looking at you more carefully now. edit: I do think Gwath has a point, though- he just overreacted a little. Just clarifying and fixing spelling mistakes __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place Last edited by Eönwë; 12-28-2008 at 03:10 PM.

12-28-2008, 03:13 PM	#16
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	GUILTY sally. I'm so sorry dear, I can't help this. INNOCENT Gwath is the one I'm actually feeling the best about for the time being. Eönwë is the other one. I'm not quite as sure as with Gwath but I find no reason to be worried about him either. Menel looks rather innocent again now that the flip flopping issue was cleared. NEITHER Kath. I seem to disagree with her on so many things I can't trust her but I'm not willing label her as Guilty yet, though. I might want to check her posts later. Bowie. Earlier he seemed innocent enough but I don't know anymore. He's somehow a bit jumpy to defend himself, and his last suggestion to vote himself really looked overreactive to me. I don't know how much I should put down on his relative newness but he's one I might consider voting for later on. Shasta. I have nothing against keeping him alive. However if your net doesn't get fixed soon is there any chance you could use computer in, say, a public library? Izzy. Dunno what should be done with her. If she's not the bear, is there any chance the bear would want to be nice and just kill her off, at least if there's no way we could get a word to her? I suppose our hunter is normal in the way s/he doesn't have any special killing abilities unless s/he's attacked? edit: xed with Bowie __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.