The Middle Earth Popularity Cup - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mormegil · 12-12-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Plus you simply can't pass over his accomplishments and the amazing amount of time that he was able to be a force in Middle-Earth.

Yes if you count all the time we was a mere malicious presence, but essentially a non-entity and wasn't really in power but other than that yes he was great. C'mon he spent the majority of time trying to get his power back and bowing to the might of Numenor. He was a pawn of Melkor who his real purpose was to get him back and he failed.

the phantom · 12-12-2008, 03:00 PM

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Yes if you count all the time we was a mere malicious presence

I do count that time, because his will and his servants were still a force in Middle Earth through that time. That's more than you can say for pretty much everyone else.

And yes, he did for a time bow to Numenor, but it was all a plot to bring about its downfall. Which he pulled off, thank you very much.

Strongbow · 12-12-2008, 03:21 PM

++Beleg

Namesake, rather than avatar.

Groin Redbeard · 12-12-2008, 03:31 PM

++Sauron

Has done more for the sake of evil than any other character in Arda, besides Morgoth.

Elmo · 12-12-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

++Sauron

Has done more for the sake of evil than any other character in Arda, besides Morgoth.

Exactly, everyone loves a trier.

mormegil · 12-12-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

I do count that time, because his will and his servants were still a force in Middle Earth through that time. That's more than you can say for pretty much everyone else.

And yes, he did for a time bow to Numenor, but it was all a plot to bring about its downfall. Which he pulled off, thank you very much.

So then Galadriel is your pick eh?

the phantom · 12-12-2008, 05:22 PM

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So then Galadriel is your pick eh?

Huh? Her match isn't until later. This is the Sauron-Beleg match.

Are you trying to draw a parallel between Sauron and Galadriel? She never took down Numenor. And she definitely didn't come within an inch of taking over the world. And her actions didn't cause the shape of the earth to be altered either. She's not comparable when it comes to deeds. Her chance for victory lies in personality, her positive dealings with others (Aragorn, Gimli, etc), and possibly her looks.

Ibrîniðilpathânezel · 12-12-2008, 08:11 PM

++Sauron

Beleg just never did anything for me. shrug

Andsigil · 12-12-2008, 09:26 PM

++Beleg

He was a true friend, indeed.

Besides, I just hate evil on principle, no matter how interesting it might be.

Ilya · 12-12-2008, 10:49 PM

++Beleg

If this were some sort of power cup, the one in need of clearasil would have it. But, Beleg's far more personable.

12-12-2008, 03:21 PM	#3
Strongbow Wight Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South of the Capital Wasteland Posts: 119	++Beleg Namesake, rather than avatar. __________________ Is é gáire ár gcuid páistí a bheas mar dhíoltas againn. - Roibeard Gearóid Ó Seachnasaigh

12-12-2008, 03:31 PM	#4
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	++Sauron Has done more for the sake of evil than any other character in Arda, besides Morgoth. __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Last edited by Groin Redbeard; 12-12-2008 at 04:15 PM.

12-12-2008, 08:11 PM	#8
Ibrîniðilpathânezel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the Helcaraxe Posts: 733	++Sauron Beleg just never did anything for me. shrug __________________ Call me Ibrin (or Ibri) :) Originality is the one thing that unoriginal minds cannot feel the use of. — John Stewart Mill

12-12-2008, 09:26 PM	#9
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	++Beleg He was a true friend, indeed. Besides, I just hate evil on principle, no matter how interesting it might be. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

12-12-2008, 10:49 PM	#10
Ilya Wight Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In the cold Posts: 202	++Beleg If this were some sort of power cup, the one in need of clearasil would have it. But, Beleg's far more personable. __________________ Arvedui III has walked to Rivendell!