The Middle Earth Popularity Cup - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gollum the Great · 12-12-2008, 01:31 PM

++Beleg

Rune Son of Bjarne · 12-12-2008, 02:23 PM

++Beleg

Because he smells of curry

the phantom · 12-12-2008, 02:41 PM

Ooh, tough one here. Both would be great to advance. I'd love to champion the underdog here (Beleg is one of my favorite characters), but I think advancing Sauron would lead to more interesting semis and finals perhaps. Plus you simply can't pass over his accomplishments and the amazing amount of time that he was able to be a force in Middle-Earth.

++ Sauron

Tuor in Gondolin · 12-12-2008, 02:44 PM

++ Beleg

If you're going to walk down a dark alley,
who better for reliable, potent muscle?

mormegil · 12-12-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Plus you simply can't pass over his accomplishments and the amazing amount of time that he was able to be a force in Middle-Earth.

Yes if you count all the time we was a mere malicious presence, but essentially a non-entity and wasn't really in power but other than that yes he was great. C'mon he spent the majority of time trying to get his power back and bowing to the might of Numenor. He was a pawn of Melkor who his real purpose was to get him back and he failed.

the phantom · 12-12-2008, 03:00 PM

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Yes if you count all the time we was a mere malicious presence

I do count that time, because his will and his servants were still a force in Middle Earth through that time. That's more than you can say for pretty much everyone else.

And yes, he did for a time bow to Numenor, but it was all a plot to bring about its downfall. Which he pulled off, thank you very much.

Strongbow · 12-12-2008, 03:21 PM

++Beleg

Namesake, rather than avatar.

Groin Redbeard · 12-12-2008, 03:31 PM

++Sauron

Has done more for the sake of evil than any other character in Arda, besides Morgoth.

mormegil · 12-12-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

I do count that time, because his will and his servants were still a force in Middle Earth through that time. That's more than you can say for pretty much everyone else.

And yes, he did for a time bow to Numenor, but it was all a plot to bring about its downfall. Which he pulled off, thank you very much.

So then Galadriel is your pick eh?

the phantom · 12-12-2008, 05:22 PM

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So then Galadriel is your pick eh?

Huh? Her match isn't until later. This is the Sauron-Beleg match.

Are you trying to draw a parallel between Sauron and Galadriel? She never took down Numenor. And she definitely didn't come within an inch of taking over the world. And her actions didn't cause the shape of the earth to be altered either. She's not comparable when it comes to deeds. Her chance for victory lies in personality, her positive dealings with others (Aragorn, Gimli, etc), and possibly her looks.

12-12-2008, 01:31 PM	#1
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	++Beleg __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

12-12-2008, 02:41 PM	#3
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Ooh, tough one here. Both would be great to advance. I'd love to champion the underdog here (Beleg is one of my favorite characters), but I think advancing Sauron would lead to more interesting semis and finals perhaps. Plus you simply can't pass over his accomplishments and the amazing amount of time that he was able to be a force in Middle-Earth. ++ Sauron __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

12-12-2008, 02:44 PM	#4
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	++ Beleg If you're going to walk down a dark alley, who better for reliable, potent muscle? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

12-12-2008, 03:21 PM	#7
Strongbow Wight Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South of the Capital Wasteland Posts: 119	++Beleg Namesake, rather than avatar. __________________ Is é gáire ár gcuid páistí a bheas mar dhíoltas againn. - Roibeard Gearóid Ó Seachnasaigh

12-12-2008, 03:31 PM	#8
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	++Sauron Has done more for the sake of evil than any other character in Arda, besides Morgoth. __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Last edited by Groin Redbeard; 12-12-2008 at 04:15 PM.