What do you assign to Mordor? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lindale · 12-07-2008, 11:10 AM

The pig, cattle, chicken, lamb, you eat. It goes somewhere, for want of better term, productive. Kicking a cat or running it over with your brand-new SUV is a useless act, unless that cat had hurt you or done some damage. But a cat that is obviously a pet, which you kick just for the heck of it, does that act not make you evil?

Groin Redbeard · 12-07-2008, 11:20 AM

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But a cat that is obviously a pet, which you kick just for the heck of it, does that act not make you evil?

Not evil, but cruel.

Rock singers who think they can sing traditional Christmas Carols.

Gollum the Great · 12-07-2008, 12:35 PM

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Rock singers who think they can sing traditional Christmas Carols.

I know what you mean.

That was funny, Morth.

Andsigil · 12-07-2008, 12:48 PM

Cretins driving cars with loud bass systems through your neighborhood. If that's not an invention of Mordor...

Thinlómien · 12-07-2008, 01:00 PM

Being too busy.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 12-07-2008, 01:17 PM

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Cretins driving cars with loud bass systems through your neighborhood. If that's not an invention of Mordor...

Cretins with a loud bass system who live above you and turn it up to shake all of your belongings intentionally just to see if your hot room mate will come up and yell at them.

Lindale · 12-07-2008, 11:56 PM

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Cretins driving cars with loud bass systems through your neighborhood. If that's not an invention of Mordor...

Every other jeepney (our main transport service, and one I have to ride every single day of my life) has a loud bass system blasting some rap or other form of music I or the other passengers can't appreciate. Now riding in that for an hour or so is surely like going on a field trip to Mordor.

Skippy: Hmm, I'll just say, we'll slaughter that lovely little pig we spent three months feeding to get its meat so that it can be served for Christmas dinner (as a lechon baboy, one of my all-time favorites!!). It isn't cruel or evil or some such word, because that's the whole point of feeding that pig and bathing it and buying meds for it for months. But I was a member of an animal whatnot society, and one of our main points, don't do needless cruel things to anything. Your pet, your neighbor, your seatmate in bio, your neighbor's pet, your dead formaldehyde-filled frog at bio, your suckling pig which you will slaughter for Christmas.

Groin: In this country you'd have to search really hard and long to find decent carolers. Well, maybe not that hard, if you live on campus, then you might just want to go to the Conservatory. But if you watch TV or listen to the radio you'd get to hear Christmas carols both local and international, sung very horridly by those who pose as "rock bands."

Morthoron · 12-07-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Rock singers who think they can sing traditional Christmas Carols.

I will both agree and disagree with you on that one.

For instance, Bob Seger's renditon of 'Little Drummer Boy' is strained and I hate hearing it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S50cf3xIb50

However, Simon and Garfunkel's version of 'Silent Night/Seven O'clock News' is absolutely brilliant, particularly with the addition of tragic news headlines in juxtaposition to the calm, peaceful carol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcGBcJKalrQ

Of course, there are an equal number of dreadful Christmas songs mucked up by Country and Western performers and by any number of Pop performers. Aside from performers trying their hand at traditional Christmas Classics, I would have to say there are a number of Rock performers who wrote some of the greatest modern Christmas songs, ones that will certainly stand up with anything Bing Crosby crooned or Nat King Cole embraced in velvety intonation:

Jethro Tull --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdalBvgNAxI

Emerson, Lake and Palmer --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRkOw...eature=related

And of course, John Lennon --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBfEGETyGjs

P.S. Oh, and how can I forget the wonderfully drunken 'Fairytale of New York' by the Pogues (warning: some yuletide obscenity) --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjEIP...eature=related

Lalwendë · 12-07-2008, 03:21 PM

Hmmm, rock stars and traditional Christmas songs and carols (there is a difference between a Christmas song and a carol

). Some to make you change your mind:

Steeleye Span - Gaudete - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lN9AJj...eature=related

Mike Oldfield - In Dulce Jubilo - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=atD18otb95o

However, maybe controversially, i send to Mordor the sort of Christmas song that's designed to make you feel guilty, things like Do They Know It's Christmas. Aside from the fact it's a ruddy awful dirge of a 'song', the lyrics are dumb and I resent Bob Geldof ruining my Christmas by telling me to give him my you-know-what-ing money.

And on the subject of people who kick cats, I'd more than send to Mordor anyone who kicked my cats...they'd end up in the Void!

Inziladun · 12-07-2008, 05:12 PM

Morthoron

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P.S. Oh, and how can I forget the wonderfully drunken 'Fairytale of New York' by the Pogues (warning: some yuletide obscenity)

Now that is a good one. I don't care much for The Pogues, but Kirsty MacColl can make anything listenable.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 12-08-2008, 12:26 AM

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And on the subject of people who kick cats, I'd more than send to Mordor anyone who kicked my cats...they'd end up in the Void!

You go Lal!

I assign nassty projects that never seem to get done, so that I have to sneak my Downs time!

Oddwen · 12-08-2008, 10:09 AM

On a similar tangent, I would like to assign simple carols that get big-banded, Vegas-ized, jauntified or have their delivery otherwise...changed. The only one allowed to do that type of thing is Richard Cheese, thank you very much.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 12-08-2008, 10:42 AM

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P.S. Oh, and how can I forget the wonderfully drunken 'Fairytale of New York' by the Pogues (warning: some yuletide obscenity)

I heard this blasting in a chain bookstore recently and expressed my amusement to the girls I was with. "Don't they know how many curse words there are in this?" "They don't listen to any of the words," they responded.

And then I happily hummed what follows, "You're a bum, you're a punk-"

Inziladun · 12-08-2008, 12:10 PM

Feanor of the Peredhil

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P.S. Oh, and how can I forget the wonderfully drunken 'Fairytale of New York' by the Pogues (warning: some yuletide obscenity)

I heard this blasting in a chain bookstore recently and expressed my amusement to the girls I was with. "Don't they know how many curse words there are in this?" "They don't listen to any of the words," they responded.

And then I happily hummed what follows, "You're a bum, you're a punk-"

The store probably had no idea what songs they were playing. Most of the time they just broadcast from satelliite radio and such.
Good thing you stopped with that line, Feanor.

Morthoron · 12-08-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

The store probably had no idea what songs they were playing. Most of the time they just broadcast from satelliite radio and such.
Good thing you stopped with that line, Feanor.

Good thing the store didn't play the song 'Bottle of Smoke' from the same album. I believe the lyrics of that tune set a Guinness record for use of a certain naughty word. But somehow, coming from Shane MacGowan, it seems applicable and not forced...almost natural.

I assign Rap music. Personally, I see no redeeming quality in the genre.

Inziladun · 12-08-2008, 09:12 PM

Morthoron

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I assign Rap music. Personally, I see no redeeming quality in the genre.

Musical beauty is, I guess, in the ear of the beholder, but I have to agree. I most highly value strong, clear melodies and lyrical wit, and that style seems to possess neither. By all appearances it most emphasizes volume and crudity, and I'm not at all impressed by the 'rhythm' prowess of the performers.
To be fair, I have an equal dislike for some other forms, notably country and R & B.

Lindale · 12-13-2008, 07:47 AM

Very untimely storms and rains. Uggh! Still raining even in the cold dry season! Imagine celebrating Christmas or going Christmas shopping or partying while it's raining like it's the height of June in tropical Philippines.

Nerwen · 12-13-2008, 08:50 AM

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Very untimely storms and rains.

I second that. It's supposed to be summer down here!

Kath · 12-13-2008, 11:17 AM

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Imagine celebrating Christmas or going Christmas shopping or partying while it's raining like it's the height of June in tropical Philippines.

No need for imagination, that's how those of us in England spend Christmas every year!

I assign hurting your back with absolutely no idea how you've done it. Not only are you in pain, you're constantly running over everything you did recently to try and work out what caused it!

Oddwen · 12-13-2008, 08:50 PM

I assign second-guessing myself...it's very frustrating when I realize I'm doing it, and then my mind will go into overdrive third and fourth-guessing myself, until I realize I was right the first time.

Nerwen · 12-13-2008, 09:08 PM

I assign losing another of my cats. At least this one had a long life. I'm still going to miss him, though.

Lindale · 12-14-2008, 06:29 AM

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I assign hurting your back with absolutely no idea how you've done it. Not only are you in pain, you're constantly running over everything you did recently to try and work out what caused it!

Maybe you slept in a wrong position the night before. Happens often to me.

Aww, Nerwen, that's just sad.

Eönwë · 12-14-2008, 07:40 AM

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No need for imagination, that's how those of us in England spend Christmas every year!

Yep.

In fact, I assign it raining absolutely all day yesterday and most of all the other other days this week. I haven't seen the sky for almost a month!

12-07-2008, 11:10 AM	#1
Lindale Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: midway upon... in a forest dark Posts: 975	The pig, cattle, chicken, lamb, you eat. It goes somewhere, for want of better term, productive. Kicking a cat or running it over with your brand-new SUV is a useless act, unless that cat had hurt you or done some damage. But a cat that is obviously a pet, which you kick just for the heck of it, does that act not make you evil? __________________ The heart does things for reasons Reason itself cannot comprehend. - Blaise Pascal Legal Madness.

12-07-2008, 12:48 PM	#4
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Cretins driving cars with loud bass systems through your neighborhood. If that's not an invention of Mordor... __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

12-07-2008, 01:00 PM	#5
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Being too busy. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-07-2008, 03:21 PM	#9
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Hmmm, rock stars and traditional Christmas songs and carols (there is a difference between a Christmas song and a carol ). Some to make you change your mind: Steeleye Span - Gaudete - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lN9AJj...eature=related Mike Oldfield - In Dulce Jubilo - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=atD18otb95o However, maybe controversially, i send to Mordor the sort of Christmas song that's designed to make you feel guilty, things like Do They Know It's Christmas. Aside from the fact it's a ruddy awful dirge of a 'song', the lyrics are dumb and I resent Bob Geldof ruining my Christmas by telling me to give him my you-know-what-ing money. And on the subject of people who kick cats, I'd more than send to Mordor anyone who kicked my cats...they'd end up in the Void! __________________ Gordon's alive!

12-08-2008, 10:09 AM	#12
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,145	On a similar tangent, I would like to assign simple carols that get big-banded, Vegas-ized, jauntified or have their delivery otherwise...changed. The only one allowed to do that type of thing is Richard Cheese, thank you very much. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

12-13-2008, 07:47 AM	#17
Lindale Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: midway upon... in a forest dark Posts: 975	Very untimely storms and rains. Uggh! Still raining even in the cold dry season! Imagine celebrating Christmas or going Christmas shopping or partying while it's raining like it's the height of June in tropical Philippines. __________________ The heart does things for reasons Reason itself cannot comprehend. - Blaise Pascal Legal Madness.

12-13-2008, 08:50 PM	#20
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,145	I assign second-guessing myself...it's very frustrating when I realize I'm doing it, and then my mind will go into overdrive third and fourth-guessing myself, until I realize I was right the first time. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door Last edited by Oddwen; 12-13-2008 at 08:54 PM.

12-13-2008, 09:08 PM	#21
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	I assign losing another of my cats. At least this one had a long life. I'm still going to miss him, though. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.