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Old 03-16-2002, 12:46 AM   #14
Kalimac
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Kalimac has just left Hobbiton.
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I think Celebrian left because she had been "tormented" after being captured by Orcs; once she escaped she was so badly hurt that she had to pass over to the West to be fully healed. Don't know if it's a reflection on Elrond that he stayed behind, though - he had a lot of work to take care of first (keeping a rein on Elladan and Elrohir, making sure Arwen didn't take up with some sleazy guy who didn't deserve her [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]). Sort of the way Sam stayed behind when Frodo left the Havens; he had a lot of work still to do in Middle-Earth and it just wasn't time for him to go yet (and no, I'm NOT saying Sam and Frodo were a couple. Just that the mentality is the same). Just my 2.5 cents, though [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img].

Eh...I want to be nice to Eowyn. She was definitely flirting with Aragorn but there's no reason she would have known about Arwen, besides you start wanting some halfway-honorable company when you've been spending months waiting on a cranky uncle and being hit up on by the likes of Wormtongue. And besides, she let go in the end [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. If she and Aragorn had actually *married* - now that would be awful. Too much alike in some ways to get along for more than a month or so, besides you'd have all the guilt over Arwen in the background.

I still vote for Morgoth and Ungoliant, though. There's no other combination that screams "Run away! Run away!" quite as loudly as this one...
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