Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Groin Redbeard]

Well done on the Dagger-throwing Firefoot. This will make your character, Scyld, stand out more in Scarburg.

Nogrod, for the sack-fight, I think that Erbrand will fair quite badly in it. He's tall and not too flexible, his sense of balance would be completely destroyed due to his height. For the quarterstaff, Erbrand would not have used one for fighting purposes, though I'm sure he could grasp the concept very fast, especially if he watched someone fight first.

I'm really anxious for Erbrand to go up against Crabannan in either the sword fight or the quarterstaff. If you wouldn't mind, Nogrod, I'd like Erbrand to face Crabannan off in the quarterstaff, seeing as Erbrand would have a better chance with that weapon.

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being extremely weak and 10 being exceptionally strong, I'll rate the abilities that you wanted: strength= 8, agility= 4; balance= 5.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

I'm really anxious for Erbrand to go up against Crabannan in either the sword fight or the quarterstaff. If you wouldn't mind, Nogrod, I'd like Erbrand to face Crabannan off in the quarterstaff

You just got yourself a deal (and Gwath as well - unless he protests mightily). I had pondered whether I should make just a full lottery for "who meets who" but that I think settles it for you guys. Any other favourites?


Also I'd like to hear more about the sack-fight as well; Harreld, Dan, Javan, Kara?

I should have ample time on the few days to come so I might start writing and maybe posting the sack-fight on let's say thursday (if that isn't too rushed that is). But I'd like to have a few points about the participators before I start doing it.

And as you are with it, just give the points on their quarterstaff-abilities as well - and how you anticipate them to fare in that.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

You just got yourself a deal (and Gwath as well - unless he protests mightily).

Bring it on.

[Gwathagor]

Exactly what stats would you like, Nogrod, for the quarterstaff fight?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Bring it on.

That's the spirit!

Any "values" like Groin offered for my dices, or do I decide on them myself? It's your chance to affect the outcome now...

Gah, X'd with Gwath...

Yeah, the sack-fight is the harder (more factors in it) one I suppose...

[Gwathagor]

For Crabannan:
Agility=7
Balance=6
Strength=7
Cunning=7

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being extremely weak and 10 being exceptionally strong, I'll rate the abilities that you wanted: strength= 8, agility= 4; balance= 5.

Originally Posted by Gwath

For Crabannan:
Agility=7
Balance=6
Strength=7
Cunning=7

So you got to pick the later?


Anyway, if you don't feel like it I don't need as exact numbers from all of you - some guidelines would help though; like Dan is extremely clumsy but powerful and obstinate or Javan is agile but not so powerful... or whatever you think...

I'll make some believable "scores" for our NPC -soldiers making them believably good but not downright easy winners... and the dices will then roll.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So you got to pick the later?

Yeees. If they seem inordinately high, I ought to point out that fighting is what Crabannan does best by nature and by nurture.

[Eönwë]

Ok, Nogrod.

Which event/s do you need it for?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Ok, Nogrod.

Which event/s do you need it for?

Well, the sack-fight is first and the quarterstaff-fight will follow...

[littlemanpoet]

Fea, I'll have to get back to you on Eodwine's question for Degas. I did some research before I wrote the post, but it's late.

Harreld in the sack fight: strength 9, agility 7, balance, 4

Harreld in the quarterstaff fight: str 9, agility 7, stamina 6

Is that enough info?

[Gwathagor]

I guess stamina stats would be a good idea.

Crabannan:
Stamina=7
Strength=7
Agility=7
Balance=6
Cunning=7

[Groin Redbeard]

Sorry I missed the this, the stamina part should give my character a boost.
Stamina=9/8
Strength= 8
Agility= 4
Balance= 5

[Gwathagor]

Yeah, Erbrand's gonna need all the help he can get.

[Folwren]

Nogrod, you did great! Javan's stuff in the post is excellent and I have no complaints.

Don't worry about it, Elempi. I am just voicing my impatient curiosity to let you both know that it didn't fall on deaf ears - at least in this quarter.

-- Foley

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I am just voicing my impatient curiosity to let you both know that it didn't fall on deaf ears - at least in this quarter.

-- Foley

I'm sorry, Foley, and thanks. Now that you've expressed your 'excitement,' I feel a bit more pressured to do a good job on writing what I've been planning. *gnaws on fingernails nervously*

I really have to wait for the sword fight, though. I'm just hoping I can write when it finally comes...

[Folwren]

Well, which game is next? The quarterstaff fight, right? And then what - the sword fight? Who's writing that?

I am very excited to see what's stewing. I am guessing, but whether or not I'm guessing correctly, we shall see. I see that Harreld and Ginna are getting rather warm with each other. lol!

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Well, which game is next? The quarterstaff fight, right?

We still need the final for the sack-fight. Then there will be the quarterstaff-stuff...

[Thinlómien]

Now I'm pretty sure Kara's going to win the whole sack-fight!!!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Writing a paper (taking a mini break), so I can't really post for real at the moment, but here's what I'm thinking:

""You have blessed me with knowing your desire that Saeryn become my wife, for which I thank you. But we have not spoken, you and I, of bride price and dowery. Now that you are head of your house, and Saeryn is your sister, what would you have from me in plight for the good of your sister, both while we live, but more to the point, for her security in widowhoood?"" (Eodwine to Degas)

Saeryn would have had a dowery in place already, yes? Presumably? But would Crazy-Fenrir have left it alone, particularly once she fell from favor? To the point: can I assume that Saer already has a dowery containing dowery-stuff, or does the rather prodigal Degas need to come up with a new one from the wreckage of his long-avoided home?

And I'm now definitely thinking of bride-price as 'retirement fund.'

Also, I'm thinking, Saeryn hasn't really been a part of the Folde for quite some time now, so handing over stuff to make up for what the Folde will be losing isn't quite like if she'd been living at home being the sole weaver or something.

Also, though- would it be appropriate for Degas to go home and see what his lands need before naming a bride price? Or is this a conversation that must be settled 'now' regardless of the current state of the Folde?

[littlemanpoet]

I think that Degas' and Eodwine's combined situation is rather unique. Both are relatively poor lords in start-up phase. Eodwine has very little to offer Degas in bride price, and Degas has very little to offer Eodwine in dowry because no doubt stoopid crazy brother sabotaged it. So I think that the two of them are likely to come to one of two decisions:

1) "let's settle this when we're both a bit more settled". This has the negative for Eodwine of nothing new for start-up, but it's a positive for Degas, obviously; and Saeryn's bride price/retirement fund is unaffected.

2) Bride price and dowry are combined in a pact of life-long alliance, aid, and friendship, as long as two of the three individuals shall live. This has the negative of no real boost to any of them in the start-up phase, but the long term rewards would of course be huge for all involved.

Can anybody think of a 3)?

[littlemanpoet]

Will you look at that? The peasants get to hug each other while the socially hire ranking tradesman and land holder's daughter dare no more than to stand arm in arm; but the lord and lady, compared to that, may do no more than bow and curtsy or sit near each other. Ah me, ah well. Such is the price of nobility.

Fun posts, everyone! Fea and I are in the midst of building a PM post so that poor Fea doesn't have to wrack her brains all alone how Degas would reply to Eodwine. Hope to post it soon - maybe tonight or tomorrow. Then the quarterstaff fights can begin.....

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Will you look at that? The peasants get to hug each other while the socially hire ranking tradesman and land holder's daughter dare no more than to stand arm in arm; but the lord and lady, compared to that, may do no more than bow and curtsy or sit near each other. Ah me, ah well. Such is the price of nobility.

Ah, the joys of being the lower class.

Is our goal to get the games done by the end of this week, or are we all set now that people are posting?

[Folwren]

One thing, Groin - Thornden did not help Erbrand up. Others were there before him. He helped Kara down.

Hey, Elempi, funny you shouldn't notice that. I didn't, but it's so true. lol!

[littlemanpoet]

Groin, as long as there are people posting, it's okay if the games don't get done in a hurry. However, let's not drag our heels either.

Fea and I have finished our PM post. I'll post it up as soon as I'm at a computer that can copy and paste.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

One thing, Groin - Thornden did not help Erbrand up. Others were there before him. He helped Kara down.

What?! why is he doing that? Hands off Thornden, if Erbrand didn't know Thornden would beat him to a pulp he would give that soldier a piece of his mind! I'm going to have to keep my eye on your character Folwren.

Excellent editing with your post Elempi! My hat's off to you and Fea for your work.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

My hat's off to you and Fea for your work.

I give him the credit. I've been in meltdown stress mode and wouldn't have come up with dust if he hadn't helped me along with it.

I'm merely concerned Degas will snuff it and Eodwine and Saeryn will need help. Of course I don't intend for him to snuff it, I intend for him to get married and produce little redheads. He needs to learn how to plow a field properly. Boy's been spoiled.

Of course I also don't intend to actually write any of these events, I intend to follow him to the edges of his lands and leave him there with the promise of a future, thence retiring from his story and getting to work on a novel that's been incubating since summer.

[Thinlómien]

Nog - would you have time to write the post for the boys? I'm going to be awfully busy this week...

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

thence retiring from his story and getting to work on a novel that's been incubating since summer.

You simply MUST let me read some of that when you have it written. I LOVE reading new stuff and also (watch out) LOVE offering advice and encouragement.

Sorry to rain on your game, Noggie, but the three way quarterstaff fight seems unworkable to me. I suggest a play-in round by non-soldiers and less experienced soldiers instead. Up to you, of course.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

You simply MUST let me read some of that when you have it written. I LOVE reading new stuff and also (watch out) LOVE offering advice and encouragement.

Hm. I'll have to remember that if I ever write one of my incubating novels.

Sorry to rain on your game, Noggie, but the three way quarterstaff fight seems unworkable to me. I suggest a play-in round by non-soldiers and less experienced soldiers instead. Up to you, of course.

It definitely would be interesting, Nogrod, but something savage, I would guess. Just think...two decide to take one out, so they're fighting him, and then one gets more caught up in the fight than the other, and the other who is not really fighting at all, decides to put out his short-term ally...

I can picture it in my mind but I can't put it on paper. It just seems like a whole arena for treason and back whacking (opposed to back stabbing, you know )

-- Foley

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

You simply MUST let me read some of that when you have it written. I LOVE reading new stuff and also (watch out) LOVE offering advice and encouragement.

Hm... Perhaps I should send you the pieces of unfinished projects I've been ignoring for a while and you can give me ideas on how to finish them.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

What?! why is he doing that? Hands off Thornden, if Erbrand didn't know Thornden would beat him to a pulp he would give that soldier a piece of his mind! I'm going to have to keep my eye on your character Folwren.

Haha! That's funny. Thornden wouldn't beat him to a pulp at all...not even half way there.
As a matter of fact, it would be extremely interesting if you wanted to make a deal out of this and have Erbrand say something. I think it could be fun.
But, really, Thornden was just being a gentleman like he always is.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So would there be something that Javan owns - and which Garmund and Cnebba might crave for? Would he have something like a very neat dagger / knife, a nice toy, something? I guess both Garmund and Cnebba would have at least some nice toys made by their fathers which they would have to put in risk to counter the bet then...

Or do you think the bet should be immaterial, like "you'll be our servant for a week" or something? That might be fun as well.

Oh, I have no idea. The only posession that Javan has that either of them would want would possibly be a knife of some sort (if he's allowed to have one). He owns really very little. He has his horse, but that may be a bit extreme, and I guess he might be said to own his own bow, but the boys probably have their own, too.

The idea of the servant for a week (or whatever else you come up with) sounds interesting and fun. Either that or the knife, I guess. Or if you come up with some other toy or something, then do it. I'll probably be happy with whatever you come up with.

This make reading the game and seeing how Thornden does even more interesting for me!

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Haha! That's funny. Thornden wouldn't beat him to a pulp at all...not even half way there.
As a matter of fact, it would be extremely interesting if you wanted to make a deal out of this and have Erbrand say something. I think it could be fun.
But, really, Thornden was just being a gentleman like he always is.

That might not be a bad idea, Folwren. Just like with Crabannan, Erbrand can get overly defensive with Thornden. I think I'll run with that idea, thanks Folwren!

[Folwren]

Elempi, there's one problem...and I spotted it Sunday when I wrote my post. Eodwine seems to be away during the dagger throwing (at least, if we go by where your post is positioned right before the competition), and yet, he takes part in it in Firefoot's post.

May I propose that posts be shuffled a bit, somehow?

Cross posted in Nogrod...

Whenever either of you get a chance to post, that's fine! My school week runs from Monday through Wednesday, so until Thursday, I really don't have much time to post in any games.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Rather than shuffling posts, Fea and I can in our next posts for Degas and Eodwine, respectively, simply describe returning to the games just in time for the dagger throwing contest. Make sense?

[Folwren]

Sure! It makes sense. Sorry if I was sticking my nose into business that wasn't mine.

-- Foley

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Sorry if I was sticking my nose into business that wasn't mine.

Psh. None of that now- I'd just about kill for a few people in my advanced writing class to be more willing to point out potential flaws and errors. I think they're all afraid of me, so I'll know perfectly well something I've written needs work yet nobody will speak up and tell me what I've screwed up.

Critics are downright useful, so please please please don't stop.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Psh. None of that now- I'd just about kill for a few people in my advanced writing class to be more willing to point out potential flaws and errors. I think they're all afraid of me, so I'll know perfectly well something I've written needs work yet nobody will speak up and tell me what I've screwed up.

*Foley trembling in her boots* Ooookay, Mrs. Fea. Sorry for being a trouble by apologizing to be a trouble. I'll keep that in mind.

Critics are downright useful, so please please please don't stop.

Yeah, I know, but it can really be troublesome to have someone be a critic when you don't want to be critiqued.