Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

On a more serious note, good job Boro - I don't know whether I would have instantly believed your claim but morm's confession cleared it... I'm still wondering why he did it, though.

I also have been wondering why morm confessed.

[Kath]

Alrighty then!

++NERWEN for rep

++NO filibuster

If Boro and phantom are wolves and play this move out it will be a masterstroke. If that happens I wouldn't even mind losing because it would be just too impressive to be cross!

[Boromir88]

I mean, the real seer could still be lurking somewhere with no chance to post toDay yet?~Lommy

I think you are just really paranoid right now still.

If there is the "real" seer lurking around, then it would be foolish not to step up now. With the Ka as one wolf, morm confessing, that makes two wolves, and if this is tp's and myself super bold to the point of stupidity wolf ploy, than we'd be dead. I admit I'm insane, and it's hard not to think everything I do is really just something evil, but also I do look at the benefits, if this was two last wolves strategy it would not work, there'd be no point.

It's like looking at Nogrod's theory of how if tp and I were wolves, this is what we would do, and all he did was spew out exactly what we were currently doing. Which by the way was absolutely hilarious Nogrod, but that was just too out there even for an innocent Nogrod.

Yesterday, since I found out morm was a wolf, and I was suspicious of his and Rune's interaction. I was honestly thinking about revealing and making Rune believe I dreamt he was a wolf, thus killing two wolves with one dream. But I was a little tentative and scared, that if I was wrong about Rune it could really backfire severely and thus there would be no benefit. So, I simply just went with being an annoying distraction and try to draw out some other wolves. So, for anyone who is innocent, sorry if I gave you a major migraine, I was just hoping to give the wolves a bigger one.

Lommy, you did outwit me, I don't know if tp would like to admit it, but I will. Also, you probably noticed how I assured tp that Legate was not the seer either and completely lied that in this set up the seer would like to lay low and try to get a couple dreams in.

Aren't you happy though that you will have to do no analysis on me or tp? That's got to be a big relief. Plus, morm I think might enjoy this as I would if I was in his place, so you dont' have to pay attention to anything he says today. Or Nogrod for that matter, whatever that sly wolf is up to.

[Boromir88]

but even stranger is his sudden turn for voting phantom. Those things combined to his earlier behaviour, especially his votes, made me quite convinced of his guilt.~Greenie

Yes, and if you can't get it all out don't worry about it. But that is something that I was wondering about. When Nogrod voted it was

tp - 2
the Ka - 2
sally - 2

He put the phantom up, with Shasta (ordo), morm (wolf), and me (seer) and 3 votes left to vote.

So my question is why didn't he go for sally. There was no reason he could have possibly thought I would have voted for tp, so he had to have been banking on other votes. Obviously, morm's because he was a wolf, but maybe he thought Shasta would cast his in for tp?

However, morm would be put into a tough position if he was the deciding vote, because he had pretty much conceded to tp. Unless if Nogrod was purely banking on Shasta's vote for tp, in which case, morm could have cast his vote for me, causing tp's lynching. That could have been seen as suspicious, but wolf-morm could have wriggled his way out of it, and precisely why I didn't want him deciding things yesterday.

I think it's obvious that with Shasta's vote and reaction to my vote for the Ka made the wolves believe he was the seer. I assumed that some time during the 2nd day Shasta caught on to me being the seer, just how he was reacting to me. I was actually glad he was killed, because if he wasn't I would have had doubts as to whether he was a wolf too and it was a plan to have one turn on tp, and the others rescue him. It's clear though that they thought Shasta was the seer, because of his timely vote. I considered actually setting him up too for a death, and seeing if tp wanted to join, but I thought since we kind of already discussed that in detail about Agan, I didn't want to make it obvious. I had a strong feeling that Shasta was trying to pose as the seer for me, I'm glad he did, so I just let him do his thing.

But in my circular way here...why didn't Nogrod vote for sally, why make such an obvious turn on tp?

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

However, morm would be put into a tough position if he was the deciding vote, because he had pretty much conceded to tp. Unless if Nogrod was purely banking on Shasta's vote for tp, in which case, morm could have cast his vote for me, causing tp's lynching. That could have been seen as suspicious, but wolf-morm could have wriggled his way out of it, and precisely why I didn't want him deciding things yesterday.

Jerk!

Oh I confessed did I, ummmm just remember this is a Fea game and anything is possible...*laughs manically*

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Yesterday, since I found out morm was a wolf, and I was suspicious of his and Rune's interaction. I was honestly thinking about revealing and making Rune believe I dreamt he was a wolf, thus killing two wolves with one dream. But I was a little tentative and scared, that if I was wrong about Rune it could really backfire severely and thus there would be no benefit.

Whatever you do, do NOT push this button. Seriously don't dream of Rune it would be a waste of dream.

[the phantom]

Ah, so Lommy- you were betting on Boro being the Seer?

*sniff*

Why not me? Was my act not good enough?

But in all seriousness, after you began looking like you wouldn't in fact vote for us despite not believing us, I started wondering if you were suspecting that something Seerish was going on. The ideal behavior for such a situation would be to still keep some pressure on us (keep sparring, don't buy into us) but not actually vote for us. And that's what you did, and so when you voted for KA I gave a grin and thought, "Hmm... Lommy may indeed be on board with us."

I thought that Nog was catching on too for a bit, by continuing his suspicion and yet saying we should be left for the Seer. But then he turned and voted for me, which caused me much confusion.

Originally Posted by Green

The way he keeps suspecting phantom yet insists that the two of you should be left for the seer is plain weird. Bringing up point after point against someone but refusing to vote that someone is strange, but even stranger is his sudden turn for voting phantom.

The first part I didn't mind. Keeping me under pressure but not voting for me was a rather good way to treat me if you had in fact realized that I was innocent, as being under lynching pressure would make my Night survival more likely.

But then the turn and vote. Yeah. That confused me to no end. But now that I know what he is, I suppose it makes sense.

And in case you don't want to go back and look for it, here is the voting plan.

[the phantom]

The votes-

Ner +++ Sally
Rune ++ Boro
Boro ++ Ner
Sally ++ tp
Ilya ++ Boro
Kath ++ Ner

Left to vote-

Brinniel- vote Boro
Greenie- vote Phantom
Gwathagor- vote Nerwen
Lommy- vote Phantom
the phantom- vote Sally

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Boro

why didn't Nogrod vote for sally, why make such an obvious turn on tp?

Unless he was wondering if I was the Seer and thought it would be worth it to bump me off, even if it did look a bit fishy.

Plus, you know Nog. He could've come up with a perfectly reasonable explanation for why he had done it.

[Boromir88]

Plus, you know Nog. He could've come up with a perfectly reasonable explanation for why he had done it.~the phantom

True, maybe we shouldn't make too much out of it. I just had in mind this, when I thought...wait a second the Ka and sally were tied with tp:

Sally lives to butter up, erm, serve, sweet Master.

Then I thought if sally is bold enough to say she's going to make me taste better when she eats me tonight. But then thought, I always imagined wolves were salt and pepper creatures.

[Boromir88]

Oh and Lommy I had crazy theories cooked up about you too, but that doesn't mean I have to make them public.

I thought once I knew about morm, and then thought Rune was also a wolf, I remembered Rune so adamantly campaigning for a representative position. That reminded me of you on Day 1 saying, you would think wolves would not want to be reps, and would just want to sit back. So, I had this big thing rolling in my head that you would try to get everyone to believe the wolves didn't want to be reps, when the whole time your partners would be out there campaigning. Now you see just a little bit of the really out in outer-space ideas and theories go through my head in all this.

For what it's worth, I think what you've said, and claim fits well, and like you said about my reveal, there's no gaping holes. So, I am inclined to believe you're innocent (and I sure hope if you are a wolf you don't try Nogrod's plan and try to argue me assuring that you are innocent).

[Mithalwen]

No filibuster? *feels deprived* but I guess I wouldn't have been around to see it. Yet I had hoped to see The Phantom or Mr Aconite go off on one .....

[the phantom]

You want to hear a crazy theory, Boro?

If Fea approves then I'll tell the absolutely crazy thought I had yesterday afternoon. I have to get her approval first because it features political terms (though, I assure you, no personal opinions or anything like that).

So... Fea... permission to share my special wacky thoughts?