Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[Brinniel]

As of now, I believe these are the ones with rep votes:

Lommy 2
morm
Shasta
Noggie
Kath

Lommy has already been made a rep, so I will vote:

++Shasta for rep

Because right now I find him pretty innocent and I'm curious to see what he does in a position of power.

[THE Ka]

I’ve seriously given it some thought, and I’m going to have to vote for Greenie this time around. Echoing the concerns of Boro88 and tp, our wolves are obviously enjoying the fact that we’re all sitting around on our thumbs and trying to come up with some clues to vote for whom and why. It might put our seer in a different position by taking a different approach, but sometimes it’s needed to stroke the fire a bit.
With this in mind, and from past experience of playing with her, I can see her as being a much needed catalyst to at least getting a clear view on what so far looks like a mundane haze. So, I’m electing Greenie because I know she’ll poke better than the Spanish inquisition. The only thing I’m hoping for is that the other possible reps will try to act differently as well.

Originally Posted by tp

Trust me- we'd much rather you looked elsewhere.

If I felt like starting a joke wheel I could make a pun of this, but tp does bring up a good point. The only reason why they both appear in the spotlight and ‘annoying’ is because its more convenient for the wolves to have us babbling over whether to vote B88 or tp, or which one is a ‘wolf’ than pay any heed elsewhere. If the voters are looking somewhere else, their reps are looking somewhere else as well whether out of their own need or respect for their base.
It would be much harder for a wolf representative or other individual wolves to swing suspicion if we’re not looking at just two people, whether arguing such as Agan and Lommy were, or agreeing as B88 and tp appear to be.

++Greenie for Rep

~ Ka

[the phantom]

Updated list-

Cleared of all charges-
the phantom

Off on a technicality-
Boro
Kath
Nog
Sally

Plea bargained-
Gil
Green
Gwath
Ilya
KA
Rune

On trial-
Brin
Lommy
morm
Nerwen
Shasta

[the phantom]

The votes thus far-

morm for Lommy
Green for morm
Lommy for Shasta
Shasta for Lommy (2)
Nogrod for Kath
Brin for Shasta (2)
The KA for Green

The Reps:

Lommy- 2
Shasta- 2

[Nerwen]

Re: Boro and the phantom.

On the one hand, it is quite unreasonable of them to expect that they can act the way they're doing without being questioned, and the fact that they refuse to see this doesn't look good.

On the other hand–

I'd have been very suspicious if, in my absence, no-one had accused Boro... I mean, it's hard to claim you're being framed if no-one's framing you. (That's a thing that worried me about him on the McCaber issue.) But that's not what happened this time.

The fact that no-one else has defended either Boro or the phantom to speak of suggests to me that for them to be wolves, we must be dealing with a planned wolf-sacrifice situation.

So whatever they are, it follows that there are probably wolves among their accusers.

Therefore my vote will go to an independent, i.e. someone who hasn't taken sides on this issue.

EDIT: x'd since the phantom at #980.

[Boromir88]

On the one hand, it is quite unreasonable of them to expect that they can act the way they're doing without being questioned, and the fact that they refuse to see this doesn't look good.~Nerwen

And I repeat, I've encouraged Greenie to ask questions twice, I've answered what I did, tp's answered what he's done. And you wonder why we're so impatient.

[Boromir88]

EDIT: Oops, I just agreed with you. That's very suspicious. ~tp

That's nothing this is going to be the real kicker. Out of the choices I see I could vote for Nogrod or Kath as a representative.

But, I would really like to get you in there tp, if no one's willing to follow up, I will vote for someone else.

[Boromir88]

tp, post 934, Kath voted for Nogrod as rep.

[satansaloser2005]

++Greenie for rep



Didn't see that coming, did you?

[the phantom]

After my readthrough of yesterday (that I did before this day started), I came into today wanting to give Nog a try. I may still do it.

But I will do what I must to protect myself and the people I believe to be innocent, and so my vote might go elsewhere against my initial leaning.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by mormegil

I can field that one. I gladly take credit for it. Earlier when I was commenting on his silliness I called him phantummy and then it went to tummy for short. I think we should all have a nickname, I'm just glad I have morm.

From now on you are known as Mormegeil, in short: Geil

Originally Posted by Nogrod

We have 16 people in this village, 4 of them wolves.


Of these we have the quiet departement:

Gil-Galad whom I think is innocent but may not return to the game. Let's hope he does.

The Ka looks like the über-submarine. I might support her lynch toDay unless some real pressing RL reasons come to the surface.

Kath I'm very unsure of as she seems to trust me somewhat (at least the last time she was around of which some time has really gone) and I find it slightly suspicious. Maybe I should just start to learn to be a bit more grown-up and stop suspecting her everytime (I quess this is the second time I'm saying this; now what does it tell? ). But she really should post more. I'm not inclined to suggest her lynching anyway, at this point at least.

Gwath I'd just like to see more. I have no clear picture of him. Sometimes I think not even a picture... where are you?

Also Brinn has been relatively quiet toDay. But so far I have no idea. She looks reasonable but that's what she always does. And that really bothers me right now.



Then there are Rune, Sally, Shasta, Greenie and Ilya who are all falllng into my category "I really should pay more attention to them as they do actually post". Somehow my mind has been in other places (thanks Boro & tp ). I'll promise to look at at least some of them tomorrow (the rep-day that is).


The people I have a "better" vision (meaning I think I have something) on remain.

Lommy looks and feels genuine, from her defence from Agan's attack to her frustration with Boro and tp toDay.

morm seems to enjoy a lot of trust in here. He looks almost botheringly innocent. But I must agree that he hasn't looked suspicious this far. I'd trust him but wouldn't make him a super-delegate anyway which he looks like be becoming if all those intending to vote him do that...

Nerwen is either a wolf or a victim of a nasty plot made by wolves. Her defences can be interpreted both ways. I have no clear feeling on her but if I'd had to be the one to vote the lynch at this moment I would probably try her (or then The Ka, just to be sure).


Boromir88 & the phantom then... Well, they could be anything, really. Two wolves, one wolf & one innocent, two innocents...

Somehow I'm thinking we should leave them for the seer - if they promise to not draw all the discussion on themselves from now on...

I mean I see now I have used a lot of my time toDay looking at things relating to them. Some of them give me the creeps, some of them assure me of their innocence. But with 12 innocents against 4 wolves the ratio is quite good and we probably should not take rushed decisions with them.

But we shouldn't talk about them every Day and all the time either. At least I see I have failed in that toDay in a monstrous fashion.

It is true that Morm has not gathered suspicion and that in it self is suspicious ergo Morm AKA Geil is a wolf!

Actually it has been bothering me that Morm has been regarted so innocent, but there really is very little reason to suspect him.

Originally Posted by the phantom

I said earlier that the Seer had dreamt of me already. I'm serious here, Gwath- I'd bet my entire Werewolf career on it.

I'm not sure if Boro has been done yet as the day is not over yet (and thus potential hints have not finished coming out), but if not I'd bet he's the dream tonight.

What makes you sure the seer has not dreamt about the more quiet people in our village?

EDIT: I forgot to type in one of the responses

[the phantom]

Here's my Rep voting list from yesterday with votes from today added to those that have cast them.

Brin +++ Agan/Kath/Shasta
Boro +++ tp/Agan
Gil +++++ none/none
Green ++ Brin/morm/morm
Gwath ++ Nog/none
Ilya ++++ Boro/Rune
KA ++++ Boro/Lommy/Green
Kath +++ Lommy/Boro
Lommy ++ Ilya/Nerwen/Shasta
morm +++ Nog/Agan/Lommy
Nerwen ++ none/Lommy
Nog +++++ Ilya/Boro/Kath
Rune ++++ none/morm
Sally ++++ Legate/none/Green
Shasta +++ Agan/Nerwen/Lommy
tp ++++++ Legate/Kath

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Here's my Rep voting list from yesterday with votes from today added to those that have cast them.

Brin +++ Agan/Kath/Shasta
Boro +++ tp/Agan
Gil +++++ none/none
Green ++ Brin/morm/morm
Gwath ++ Nog/none
Ilya ++++ Boro/Rune
KA ++++ Boro/Lommy/Green
Kath +++ Lommy/Boro
Lommy ++ Ilya/Nerwen/Shasta
morm +++ Nog/Agan/Lommy
Nerwen ++ none/Lommy
Nog +++++ Ilya/Boro/Kath
Rune ++++ none/morm
Sally ++++ Legate/none/Green
Shasta +++ Agan/Nerwen/Lommy
tp ++++++ Legate/Kath

Alternatively, it's Doctor Who, not Dr. Who. And I'm a-shakin' in my boots, my little accent challenged companion.

*runs to Canada before she gets roasted*

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Sally

Alternatively, it's Doctor Who, not Dr. Who.

Ooh... Huge difference.

Originally Posted by Sally

my little accent challenged companion

I think it's funny that the self proclaimed "Queen of the Midget People" would call someone "little".

[Boromir88]

Oh...

morm watch out I smell a back-stab on it's way:

Actually it has been bothering me that Morm has been regarted so innocent, but there really is very little reason to suspect him.~Rune

Just giving you the heads up buddy.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by tp

Ooh... Huge difference.

Actually, there is a huge difference. And if you had ever seen the show, you would know.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Rune

What makes you sure the seer has not dreamt about the more quiet people in our village?

My friend, I said something to Lommy about this type of question earlier.

Such a query is akin to asking me, "Okay, who is the person that you think is the Seer who has dreamed of you?" or, "Okay, so are you maybe hinting that you are the Seer?" Though those interpretations are a bit extreme, you see what I'm driving at.

There's no true way I can directly answer a question about probable Seer dreams without pointing at potential Seers and potential Seer dreams and that sort of thing.

And so I must respectfully decline giving a full answer to that.

[Boromir88]

What makes you sure the seer has not dreamt about the more quiet people in our village?~Rune

That is possible, when I'm the seer sometimes I like to dream of those who I really will never have a clue about...whether that's because they're quiet, or they're just plain out sneaky. But, I also make sure I check bases with those who take a lead in the village.

The fact is the seer's had three dreams now, if tp wasn't one of them I'd be extremely shocked. You check base with the one's who take a lead, and therefor you can be sure what their intentions are. Now I also understand the current situation, there are 4 wolves, so if tp was a wolf, I wouldn't expect the seer to make a reveal, there's still lots of wolf-hunting to be done. But, I have yet to see a reveal, saying tp is a wolf, and I have yet to doubt his intentions, until then I will trust him.