Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Green

I disagree with you here. If you were innocent and I were wolf, I would definitely want to keep you alive...

Really? Even if you thought I was maybe the Seer? That sounds like suicide to me.

And even if you'd want to keep me alive despite that, I doubt your packmates would agree with you.

[the phantom]

Vote for me, Sally, or I will make like a "squid in a pepper shaker" and exterminate you!



EDIT: She tried to give me a crash course in Dr. Who yesterday. Don't ask.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And even if you'd want to keep me alive despite that, I doubt your packmates would agree with you.

Good that you reminded me of that tp.

I mean there has been a host of arguments going around like "X would not kill Y" or "Z would kill W" so "they are wolves" / "must be innocents". Now even if the wolves may stab each other in the back during the Days, during the Nights it's normally a teamwork and quite democratic indeed - at least to my experience of both being a wolf a host of times and reading wolf-PM's some have provided other players in the after-game discussions.

So I would take every such claim with a pinch of salt indeed.

[Kath]

Hello! Well I am here at last. I attempted to get on earlier and I have no idea why I couldn't. My Facebook was working, my hotmail was working, it just wouldn't link me through to here for some reason. Anyway, it's working now so. I shall have a look at what's been going on toDay and try to get back with some thoughts but I do have one immediate question ... why is phantom now called tummy?

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Kath

I do have one immediate question ... why is phantom now called tummy?

I can field that one. I gladly take credit for it. Earlier when I was commenting on his silliness I called him phantummy and then it went to tummy for short. I think we should all have a nickname, I'm just glad I have morm.

[Thinlómien]

++Shasta for rep

I think he's probably innocent and I want to know what he'll do with the power... but if he gives a mere spite-vote to tp I'm going to be seriously disappointed.

[the phantom]

Nog- does my view of the chess match make sense to you?

Green- did I answer your questions?

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I mean there has been a host of arguments going around like "X would not kill Y" or "Z would kill W" so "they are wolves" / "must be innocents". Now even if the wolves may stab each other in the back during the Days, during the Nights it's normally a teamwork and quite democratic indeed - at least to my experience of both being a wolf a host of times and reading wolf-PM's some have provided other players in the after-game discussions.

So I would take every such claim with a pinch of salt indeed.

I agree to some extent, but you also must keep in mind individual personalities when deciding how much salt to use.

For instance, when I've been a Werewolf, I've always been the one who PMs the kill to the Mod as far as I can remember. And I would not be above being undemocratic if my partners were being unreasonable.

For instance, if someone was ringing Seer bells and the rest of my pack wanted to kill somebody else merely to cause some sort of flimsy set up that may or may not work, I would PM them and tell them that hitting the Seer was the priority.

If they actually disagreed with that statement, then I'd disown them, and could very well just pretend to go along with them and then send my own pick to the Mod.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Lommy

++Shasta for rep

I think he's probably innocent and I want to know what he'll do with the power... but if he gives a mere spite-vote to tp I'm going to be seriously disappointed.

Yeah, right. Because no one would guess that would happen.

What it looks like to me- you're hoping he'll do just that, but saying what you did in an attempt to distance yourself from him when he does what you are betting he'll do.

[Boromir88]

Hmm. I was thinking about tp or Nogrod as a rep. But, I may follow Lommy's suit and go with Shasta. Shasta, I like your combative style so far against suspicions, that's a good sign, but I wish I could see more of your own suspicions. I may be missing them.

Right now, morm's making me uneasy. You avoided the confrontation too easily. What I remember of you morm is you're not only sensible, but a strong player, in the sense that you don't back away easily. I liked your points against Nerwen yesterday, but today you started efforts against tp and myself, which doesn't mean you're a wolf, but you shied away from that confrontation too easily. When I challenged you as to why I suddenly leapfrogged tp in your suspicions, you put on the brakes again. It looks like you're making sense by continually making points on your suspects, but when challenged, you don't want to go through with it, you don't pursue your suspicions any further.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Right now, morm's making me uneasy. You avoided the confrontation too easily. What I remember of you morm is you're not only sensible, but a strong player, in the sense that you don't back away easily. I liked your points against Nerwen yesterday, but today you started efforts against tp and myself, which doesn't mean you're a wolf, but you shied away from that confrontation too easily. When I challenged you as to why I suddenly leapfrogged tp in your suspicions, you put on the brakes again. It looks like you're making sense by continually making points on your suspects, but when challenged, you don't want to go through with it, you don't pursue your suspicions any further.

I'm sorry Boro I don't follow you here? I haven't backed down against you, I simply voted for my rep and got busy with other things. As to why you leaped frogged phantom on my list I would say you leap frogged a whole host of people on my list, including my previous top suspect, Nerwen. I still suspect others that I've mentioned, namely Nerwen, Nogrod, Ilya and phantom. I have no other explination than you stand out as the most likely of the 5 to be a wolf. If I were to pick between you and phantom, assuming only 1 is a wolf, you seem to be the one who would be the wolf and using the phantom relationship to your advantage.

[Nogrod]

We have 16 people in this village, 4 of them wolves.


Of these we have the quiet departement:

Gil-Galad whom I think is innocent but may not return to the game. Let's hope he does.

The Ka looks like the über-submarine. I might support her lynch toDay unless some real pressing RL reasons come to the surface.

Kath I'm very unsure of as she seems to trust me somewhat (at least the last time she was around of which some time has really gone) and I find it slightly suspicious. Maybe I should just start to learn to be a bit more grown-up and stop suspecting her everytime (I quess this is the second time I'm saying this; now what does it tell? ). But she really should post more. I'm not inclined to suggest her lynching anyway, at this point at least.

Gwath I'd just like to see more. I have no clear picture of him. Sometimes I think not even a picture... where are you?

Also Brinn has been relatively quiet toDay. But so far I have no idea. She looks reasonable but that's what she always does. And that really bothers me right now.



Then there are Rune, Sally, Shasta, Greenie and Ilya who are all falllng into my category "I really should pay more attention to them as they do actually post". Somehow my mind has been in other places (thanks Boro & tp ). I'll promise to look at at least some of them tomorrow (the rep-day that is).


The people I have a "better" vision (meaning I think I have something) on remain.

Lommy looks and feels genuine, from her defence from Agan's attack to her frustration with Boro and tp toDay.

morm seems to enjoy a lot of trust in here. He looks almost botheringly innocent. But I must agree that he hasn't looked suspicious this far. I'd trust him but wouldn't make him a super-delegate anyway which he looks like be becoming if all those intending to vote him do that...

Nerwen is either a wolf or a victim of a nasty plot made by wolves. Her defences can be interpreted both ways. I have no clear feeling on her but if I'd had to be the one to vote the lynch at this moment I would probably try her (or then The Ka, just to be sure).


Boromir88 & the phantom then... Well, they could be anything, really. Two wolves, one wolf & one innocent, two innocents...

Somehow I'm thinking we should leave them for the seer - if they promise to not draw all the discussion on themselves from now on...

I mean I see now I have used a lot of my time toDay looking at things relating to them. Some of them give me the creeps, some of them assure me of their innocence. But with 12 innocents against 4 wolves the ratio is quite good and we probably should not take rushed decisions with them.

But we shouldn't talk about them every Day and all the time either. At least I see I have failed in that toDay in a monstrous fashion.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Gwath I'd just like to see more. I have no clear picture of him. Sometimes I think not even a picture... where are you?

Directing a play i.e. super busy!

[Brinniel]

Just a real quick summary of my thoughts:

Suspicious
Boromir88
the phantom

Semi-Suspicious
Nerwen
Nogrod

No Clue
Ilya
Rune
Greenie
Gwathagor
mormegil

Innocentish
Kath
Sally
Shasta
Lommy

Where did they go?
Gil-Galad
Ka

As of now, I'm most interested in voting Shasta or Lommy as my rep. Of those from my innocent list, it is those two that I trust the most.