Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[Boromir88]

Is that by the post, or by the sentence?~Nerwen

For you, Ner, per post.

Just some statements of intention...

I want to see Gwath show up, if he doesn't, I could possibily vote for him today.

Kath, I would also like to hear more from you. I have a feeling right now that you're innocent, but I want to hear your suspects and trusteds. I will have to go and look at your posts from Day 2 yesterday, because so far I still only remember your day 1 stuff...

That is, Eonwe and Greenie are wolves (I'll note you don't seem confident and just aren't sure). Also, as far as Day 1, you said you trusted Nogrod, Lommy, and Brinn. So, what do you have for us today.

And Agan (plus yes Nogrod, even you), I want your ideas today, and I'm sure I don't have to say this, because I bet both of you will be very participatory.

Nogrod, I don't like your reactions, it looks like baiting, I mean you quote me and say "backing away huh wolfy?" or "come on Boro, these weak cases aren't you" (I'm paraphrasing by the way), and I don't know what you're trying to get out of that. Then again, I guess you're giving me a taste of my own medicine, so maybe it's a sign your innocent. I don't know why you would vote for me as a rep, could it be taken as a "maybe he'll back away if I vote for him,"...possibly? Then again, I don't think that's you, and obviously your reason given is in no way saying think I'm innocent. Also, with some people saying how wierd it looks, I get a feeling that there are some wolves behind the scenes trying to get me to pull the latch on you ole buddy.

Edit: crossed with Greenie

[Boromir88]

You can't do anything in this village without people pointing to it and jumping up and down.~the phantom

Come on tp, you know with all the insanely, yet brilliant, stuff you've pulled people aren't going to easily trust you. They will look at everything you do as some evil bluff.

I've accepted it already, so just accept it, keep trying all the ploys, and move on.

[Gwathagor]

Hi Boro.

I think, phantom, that in this case Greenie might have let your ploy slide without trying to make you explain what was going on, but I agree with her that in general the village should hold people accountable when they say weird stuff. It always drives me nuts when players say outlandish things that require us to take their innocence for granted.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Gwath

It always drives me nuts when players say outlandish things that require us to take their innocence for granted.

I'm innocent.

And on that note, Fea lied. There aren't any WWs. We're just killing each other for no reason. The lesson being that government and politics destroys people and drives wedges between them.

And make me a sandwich please. With extra BBQ sauce. Thanks.

[the phantom]

For anyone who is interested, here is a two-day Rep vote list-

Agan +++ Brin/Boro
Brin +++ Agan/Kath
Boro +++ tp/Agan
Eonwe ++ Green/Lommy
Gil +++++ none/none
Green ++ Brin/morm
Gwath ++ Nog/none
Ilya ++++ Boro/Rune
KA ++++ Boro/Lommy
Kath +++ Lommy/Boro
Lommy ++ Ilya/Nerwen
morm +++ Nog/Agan
Nerwen ++ none/Lommy
Nog +++++ Ilya/Boro
Rune ++++ none/morm
Sally ++++ Legate/none
Shasta +++ Agan/Nerwen
tp ++++++ Legate/Kath

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Hello. . . I am back from Odense and will now read through todays posts, luckely they seem to be on a resonable level.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Nerwen: Why do you quote all those posts by Boromir without adding a comment to them, it would be much more helpful just linking to the posts you refer to in your last post. This way jut take up a lot of space and with such a build up I was quite surprised how little analysing there was done.
Anyways I am impressed with the lengths you go in order to make up your mind about a sertain link, I could never make my self do that.

[FONT=&quot]So are you an extremely helpful individual or are you just engaging in massive surveys to appear innocent, I must admit that I am slightly suspicious of you. Anyways that matters not as I have little power in this village, a fact that has me much disheartened.

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I see that Aganzir has posted while I was writting.

I actually thought that we had moved beyond this subject, but if you insist. . .

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Well if you were wondering whether to trust more a person who made really good big cases against people or one who popped in to say "X looks weird... I'll tell more later," which one would you choose? If by saying a threat to the wolves you mean a player who's good at spotting wolves, it's difficult to make a difference between them, but if you mean one who can more easily convince others to think the way s/he does, I think it's justified to call Nog a greater threat than Cab.

I don't know what you mean by a "good" case, but of course if one never says anything else than "this person is suspicous" then you are little threat. I just want to point out that we where on day 1, there was plenty of time for McCabber to come good and on day 1 extensive cases are clearly overkill and seldom better than a gut feeling.

You are not a threat to the wolves if you convince people about your case and you are wrong. . .and now we have returned to an earlier stage of this discusion: Are more experienced players better at catching wolves.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And on that note, Fea lied. There aren't any WWs. We're just killing each other for no reason. The lesson being that government and politics destroys people and drives wedges between them.

Honestly, I wouldn't doubt it coming from Fea. Sometimes I think she would rather toy with us than play with us.

Sorry I'm going to be absent for a bit today...my team is playing in a couple of hours and I'm going to watch the game at somebody's house and do a few errands today. I should be back before the voting time but may cast my vote sooner. Nothing has swayed me not to vote Nerwen.

[Thinlómien]

I'm here finally.

And I'm both baffled and flattered to have become a rep and an influential one too...

...too bad this village is confusing me.

Originally Posted by Agan

Was phantom irresponsible and outrageous when he threw away his vote on Shasta? Are reps whose votes don't make a difference irresponsible? Why should a rep who votes no one be considered irresponsible if they are not?

Making a throwaway vote is making a statement and making a track, and also fulfilling one's duty.

Originally Posted by Greenie

I assume that the first sentence is supposed to be "has given me no reason to suspect her". Otherwise your thinking is a bit original..

Oh. Yes, that's right.

Originally Posted by tp

So, do you not see the benefits that can be gained from taking the suspicions of others and logically answering them?

Not all suspicions can be answered logically. If I say I have a bad gut-feeling about you, what can you really say?

Originally Posted by Boro

I think what Lommy is trying to say is while you are in no way whatsoever quiet, and there is no question you are the most vocal player, you're not overly committing towards any one way...well if that makes sense.
Or let me put it this way, you're around a lot, giving lots and lots of information but you're holding back a bit. Thus, you're "behind the scenes," you know...doing all the prep work.

Yes, that's more or less what I meant. Thanks for rephrasing it for Mr Fandom.

And since it has become an issue, I'll clarify something for you, tp and Boro - I don't think you would have primarily picked McCaber just to be sporty, unlike Nog or I could have done. I know you both have a sort of different approach. BUT I think you could have taken the approach I suggested too, in certain conditions. Like, for example, if you were feeling the game was going very well for you.

I think Ilya's defenses of herself have been relatively innocent toDay. She sounds far more genuine than yesterDay.

I have absolutely no idea what to think of Noggie. He seems paranoid.

Originally Posted by Shasta

What good points, Lommy? Point them out for me, cause I don't see any.

Hey, Shasta, was that just a banterish comment, or do you really want me to go through them and quote them for you?

Originally Posted by Eönwë

As for the second, in WW people usually use slip to mean a Freudian Slip, so that confused me a bit. Do you just mean her confusion?

Confusion, yes, or maybe mis-statement would make a good word for it?

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, here I am.
I am honoured by the trust my (two) constituents have placed in me.
I give my word that during my time in office, I shall endeavour to be beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!
...Oh, and I'll see if I can't manage to lynch a wolf while I'm about it.
Thank you.

I'm more and more convinced power drives people crazy in this village...

At this point of the game, my mind is full of horrible ideas, like tp, Boro and Nog being wolves together, or like said before, there being no wolves at all. But like I said already earlier, I'm going to be disappointed if that's the case...

PS. It's me, Nog and Greenie sharing a computer tonight...


edit: xed with everything on this pages and with Ilya's post on the previous one...