Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[A Little Green]

You guys should really really slow down. I've been reading the thread for a few hours... Okay, then to some thoughts that came to me as I read.

Originally Posted by Noggins

I would hate to see a scenario where some of the "generally trusted veterans" would make all the votes when we have this kind of opportunity to try things in the first Days.

I agree that a situation with only "generally trusted veterans" as reps is not nice, but for a different reason. I think it is not a favourable situation because, quoting Lommy,

Originally Posted by Lommy

I only fear this will lead more and more to the village being divided in two parts - the loud expert elite and the less experienced or less loud ones.

That I think is a real problem, not only because it enables quiet wolves to slip by, but also because it will lead to a not-so-enjoyable and not-so-sporty game. I agree that when playing werewolf one should contribute and post actual substance; nevertheless, I don't like the way people seem to think that flooding the thread with posts is the only right way to play and the closer you get to that the better you are. We can't all be phantoms or Nogrods, nor do we need to be. It's just alarming how this "loud, experienced veteran" type seems to be the "ideal" werewolf player who sort of must be respected just because of that status. No, I'm not saying "Don't respect experienced loudmouths". What I mean is that we should avoid only considering these kind of players as good players or players worth being a rep.

Okay, sorry for that. I got a bit heated on that topic. Now back to the actual game.

Originally Posted by Gwathy

Ok, so toDay I am voting

++Nogrod

as my representative. I think he'd do a good job of keeping the quiet players on their toes, making the ranks of the sub-reindeer-sitters a less than safe place for a wolf to hide. This, at any rate, is my hope.

I must wonder at this. He's basically voting Nogrod because he'd keep quiet players on their toes, but then, I at least would count Gwath among those very same quiet players. I don't know what to think about that, but I felt the need to point it out.

Originally Posted by Shasta

Hmm. Perhaps it's more of an angle, with Phantom at the center. I just latched on to Lommy's phrase because I saw the same thing she did.

This argument looked very weird to me. Shasta? What did you mean?

One more thing - like Agan, I don't quite understand where these phrases like "great trust" and "large front of support" come from. I never said I had great trust in Brinniel - I think I said that she looks innocentish and is a sensible player or something along those lines. Don't know, but it looks like someone is trying to make small issues into big ones.

Generally, I think Leggie looks quite innocentish, Ka is slightly creepy, and Agan speaks good sense and raises good questions. I'm also happy to see Rune and Nerwen around.


EDIT: x-ed with Boro and Brinn

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Agan

However, if there's something strange in them, it's the seeming lack of reasoning , but that's a thing that applies to the voting in general, not only these "alliances".

Could be. I have no doubt it will useful to go through all the reasons for the rep votes. But on the other hand, there's lots of other stuff that would be useful too, like for example wolf-hunting...

Originally Posted by Agan

Could you elaborate on our great trust in her. Where did you find it?

It was rather great taking into account how little she had said. Neither of you spared postive adjectives when describing her capacity to take up the task. Also, it is kind of curious that the first two rep votes go to the same person. (Although, it kind of make sense too that Greenie wanted to make sure her vote counts when she went to sleep...)

Originally Posted by Agan

I don't like it how Lommy seems to exaggerate things that seem rather small to me.

Slight exaggeration has always been a part of my way of talking, you should know that. But honestly, I don't think I've been exaggerating anything in this game.

Originally Posted by Boro

True, but as I noted, if a wolf-Nogrod can't become a rep, it could be an attempt to keep power out of other vocal players who could be trouble for him.

That seems unlikely to me. Kind of goes against the fact that he wants to keep dangerous adversaries around by not killing them during the Nights.

Originally Posted by Boro

Also, it could be a way to get the wolves more involved in the voting, and he's simply masking it under the umbrella of "trying to get more info" from people.

Now, that's a better point. He could very well do that. But you would have to apply that suspicion/accusation to me too since I think I was the first one to bring up the idea of voting people to make them more active.

Originally Posted by Greenie

I must wonder at this. He's basically voting Nogrod because he'd keep quiet players on their toes, but then, I at least would count Gwath among those very same quiet players. I don't know what to think about that, but I felt the need to point it out.

Now that's a good point. Rather interesting... is there an explanation, Gwathie?

I'm going soon, but I will be back well before the deadline to give some more thoughts.

[Boromir88]

But you would have to apply that suspicion/accusation to me too since I think I was the first one to bring up the idea of voting people to make them more active.~Lommy

Are you trying to give me a reason to accuse you?

To Legate, why in Eru's name did you make the phantom your rep?

[Kath]

Eonwe and Greenie are wolves. That's just in my head. I've been reading for about 20 minutes through all the voting of the Reps and all the rest of the chatter and that's what I came out with. However, as I've been reading for 20 minutes I've no idea what I read that made me come to that conclusion! I think it was something in one of Eonwe's early posts but I suspect that if I went back and tried to find it I'd just confuse myself even more.

I am a little confused actually as I had it in my head that once the Reps were voted for only they were able to talk. That's why I thought it would be easier to keep up if you did get elected. The fact that we're on, what, 8 pages now (?), clearly disproves that theory.

The loudmouths are being their usual selves, bar Rune who I see has just turned up so we should see more from him soon. Nog I'm finding that I trust more than usual. It's been a while since I've played with morm and I've lost any ability I might once have had to read him but at the moment I'm not getting anything negative anyway.

Brinn I'm trusting having seen her reaction to being elected. Lommy I'm still trusting as I haven't seen anything to change my mind from earlier.

But really there are just so many people! It's hard getting a fix on anyone at the moment because my mind is a bit frazzled just trying to remember who said what as well as keep up! Perhaps lists are the way to go after all.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Maybe I should start campaigning already. . .

If I get your votes at next election I promise to cut down on beaucracy, insincere and overly extensive posting. In short I will vote for people like Nogrod.

[mormegil]

I am almost caught up. Sorry about that, life threw me a curve ball. Anyway those who are sticking out most on my radar are the phantom becuase of his silliness. I've NEVER seen him like this. Legate seems to be trying too hard, if that makes sense, there is something unsettling in his demeanor. Shasta gives off the same feel as Legate. There are some others who give some vibes but not overly so.

Lommy, it's good to know that I'm back being suspected for unfounded reasons...the world is back in order. I somewhat feel the same about you but I'm trying to get over the long history of suspecting you, I think you've taken the Kath role away from her.