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Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-31-2008, 06:40 PM

Good heavens, you two, has this become a feud?

Macalaure · 10-31-2008, 06:51 PM

Alright, made it back in time. Just one post with a couple of comments until I'm off to bed.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Mac (24)
His rally against me yesterDay was just strange and the way he sticked to it was downright ridiculous. I'm aware of the possibility that there might be personal feelings involved as I know I'm innocent and he jumped on me on nothing. His insistence to speak it out aloud that he still suspects me toDay haven't lessened my suspicions as he is an experienced enough a player to see what the Nightly actions meant. Also the whole interaction between him and Rikae worries me.

Oh dear... I don't even know where to start with this, it's that ridiculous.

1. Stop harping on "personal feelings" and such. I know I suspect you frequently, and I am trying not to, but that has nothing to do with anything being personal. I just always find something suspicious about you, I honestly can't help it.

2. I did not jump on you on nothing. I made one meager point against you, like I made several against others as well, and you responded with an illogical overreaction. That was what I jumped on then, and I don't see anything wrong about it.

3. Why shouldn't I mention that I still suspect you? I didn't waste my time making more points against you. If you were proven innocent I would have excluded you from my analysis of Kitanna, but you aren't. You were in it, if just for completeness' sake.

4. The nightly actions mean that you're (no matter if innocent or not) likely dead tonight, so it makes no sense to waste time on points against you. I did not do that more than it was necessary.

Nogrod, either you are evil (though that needn't bother the village anymore now), or you are losing your objectivity regarding me. If you're innocent, I can understand why you're annoyed at me, but please, take a step back and see reality again.

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Mac, what are your reasons to think I'm innocent?

While I try to make logical cases on why I think somebody's guilty, I give out the label "innocent" almost exclusively on feeling. Your behaviour just strikes me as very innocent, that's all.

Dear me! Rikae, Nogrod, relax! This is just a game.

Macalaure · 10-31-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

1. Stop harping on "personal feelings" and such. I know I suspect you frequently, and I am trying not to, but that has nothing to do with anything being personal. I just always find something suspicious about you, I honestly can't help it.

Ack, I just noticed that I read the "personal feelings" part in Nogrod's post completely wrong. Just ignore that part of my post (and make the entire reply less sharp, please), it makes no sense and I would delete it if I could.

Rikae · 10-31-2008, 07:25 PM

Mac - since you're here, and reasonable, and probably innocent to my mind:

Go look over the day's posts. There is something someone said earlier which explains why I've been saying some of the admittedly odd things I have. When you find it (as I'm sure you can) tell me what, in your opinion, should be done about it.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-31-2008, 07:26 PM

Rikae, you make me giggle. You and Mac are starting to seriously resemble me and the phantom.

Rikae · 10-31-2008, 07:38 PM

Mac, do you remember the song I used to flirt with you the first time in a PM title?

EDIT: Sorry, McCaber, I meant Groin's vote.

McCaber · 10-31-2008, 07:31 PM

Rikae, your tirades make you seem frustrated but innocent. I've seen the emotional evil Rikae, and that's not what's coming across. I'm not sure what you meant by my "random" vote, but it won't be spent on you. I'm not sure who gets my vote yet, but as far as I can tell you and Nogrod are the next thing to innocent.

Now I just need to find out who looks deserving to die.

McCaber · 10-31-2008, 07:39 PM

I also just wanted to say thank you for increasing the level of conversation since the first half of the day. There's not much more depressing than waking up and discovering all of five new posts in the eight hours you slept.

Gollum is another one who I'm not considering voting for. Lack of posts in his case looks more newbish/lack of time than suspicious.

EDIT: crossed with Rikae's nonsensical post.

Macalaure · 10-31-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Go look over the day's posts. There is something someone said earlier which explains why I've been saying some of the admittedly odd things I have. When you find it (as I'm sure you can) tell me what, in your opinion, should be done about it.

I just did look over today's posts again, but I don't know what you're referring to. I assume there's a reason why you can't be any plainer.

Rikae · 10-31-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

I just did look over today's posts again, but I don't know what you're referring to. I assume there's a reason why you can't be any plainer.

Oh well, if you can't find it, maybe I was wrong about it in the first place. I hope so, because I've probably drawn too much attention to it now.

Macalaure · 10-31-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

We should have a good friendly discussion though, but that should take place after this game.

That is a wise suggestion.

Rikae, I think I have two theories about what you might mean. Unfortunately, they're complete opposites and neither could possibly be discussed here openly, not to mention how should be acted in either case. I guess we'll just have to see what's going to happen now.

Oh, and even though I have rarely guessed Rikae's role correctly in the past, I'm pretty sure that we're dealing with an innocent Rikae this time. And, yes, that is her personality, and the fact that it comes through genuinely and not distorted makes me feel quite confident with my judgement.

Nogrod · 10-31-2008, 07:55 PM

Don't you now make a mountain out of a molehill... and everyone calm down.
(And Mac, I'm not reading anything personally so don't you worry...)

Not all of you have played with us enough. I mean this is, if not normal, still something that is nicely within the bounds.

Rikae once almost fooled a whole village by going "personal". That's no news. And as I said, she used that card then looking like a gravely hurt person. Now she has no option with the same card in my eyes - and should not have that chance with anyone familiar with that game either - or anyone. Sorry Rikae, but some options can be used only once: trying them another time will just call for lack of confidence. I mean she really looked credibly personally hurt in that game and tried to exploit it that way... and to all of you who will think "but this is different" I will just say she was even more convincing that time... this is nothing compared to it. (well she didn't say she was about to commit a suicide but it was not far from that...

)

Although I must say I raise my hat (had I one!) to your last try where you put me in the good side. I know you are able of that but at the same time it actually makes me more wanting to vote for you just to get rid of one baddie.

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Originally Posted by Mac

Nogrod, either you are evil (though that needn't bother the village anymore now), or you are losing your objectivity regarding me. If you're innocent, I can understand why you're annoyed at me, but please, take a step back and see reality again.

Had you not said that, I might have done exactly as you proposed... I mean I was really rethinking your role in this game but that kind of warned me again about you again. Reasonableness and calmness are signs of wolvery as well as panic and frustration. It depends on the person...

The way you portray the situation makes me wawer even if you're right with the fact that my "objectivity" with you is going farther down the drain... I mean just look at your initial points or your later elaborations of them and think again! But let's not discuss it here. We have better things to do. We should have a good friendly discussion though, but that should take place after this game.

(And please remember Mac, that I'm not annoyed at you. I may have been annoyed at the way you played yesterDay but that's a different thing... and if you're a baddie that was just pure excellence!)

EDIT: Oops, a lot of posts in between the last one I saw...

Rikae · 10-31-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Sorry Rikae, but some options can be used only once: trying them another time will just call for lack of confidence.

You seriously think that, if it was a "card" I "played", I would actually do it again? I'm telling you, it's my personality. It's no reason to consider me innocent, I'll grant you, but it's also no reason to consider me guilty.

Brinniel · 10-31-2008, 08:07 PM

Rikae certainly does confuse me. She seems frustrated to the point where she's no longer making sense...but that could point to innocence or guilt. Right now I'm more suspicious than not because as Nogrod said, she's pulled this off before as a baddie and I don't want to fall for a bluff. Then again, a small part of me doubts my suspicion.

So far out of all the candidates, Rikae is most likely the one I'll be voting for unless something drastically changes. Because while I do have a bit of doubt, I worry that I'll later regret if I don't vote her. And anyway, simply knowing her role will give me a sigh of relief rather than just be left wondering..

satansaloser2005 · 10-31-2008, 06:55 PM

Posting during an extremely short break, just to say....

What the heck? Nog and Rikae are....just....insane. Well, I suppose Rikae more than Noggie (from my extremely quick breezethrough, so I may have missed something) but still. Wow.

Crap. A group's coming through. Gotta go.

10-31-2008, 06:40 PM	#1
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Good heavens, you two, has this become a feud? __________________ peace

10-31-2008, 07:26 PM	#5
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Rikae, you make me giggle. You and Mac are starting to seriously resemble me and the phantom. __________________ peace

10-31-2008, 07:31 PM	#7
McCaber Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Skyrim, again. Posts: 820	Rikae, your tirades make you seem frustrated but innocent. I've seen the emotional evil Rikae, and that's not what's coming across. I'm not sure what you meant by my "random" vote, but it won't be spent on you. I'm not sure who gets my vote yet, but as far as I can tell you and Nogrod are the next thing to innocent. Now I just need to find out who looks deserving to die. __________________ Werewolves vs. Fishmen. The battle of the century.

10-31-2008, 07:39 PM	#8
McCaber Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Skyrim, again. Posts: 820	I also just wanted to say thank you for increasing the level of conversation since the first half of the day. There's not much more depressing than waking up and discovering all of five new posts in the eight hours you slept. Gollum is another one who I'm not considering voting for. Lack of posts in his case looks more newbish/lack of time than suspicious. EDIT: crossed with Rikae's nonsensical post. __________________ Werewolves vs. Fishmen. The battle of the century.

10-31-2008, 08:07 PM	#14
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Rikae certainly does confuse me. She seems frustrated to the point where she's no longer making sense...but that could point to innocence or guilt. Right now I'm more suspicious than not because as Nogrod said, she's pulled this off before as a baddie and I don't want to fall for a bluff. Then again, a small part of me doubts my suspicion. So far out of all the candidates, Rikae is most likely the one I'll be voting for unless something drastically changes. Because while I do have a bit of doubt, I worry that I'll later regret if I don't vote her. And anyway, simply knowing her role will give me a sigh of relief rather than just be left wondering.. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

10-31-2008, 07:25 PM	#4
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Mac - since you're here, and reasonable, and probably innocent to my mind: Go look over the day's posts. There is something someone said earlier which explains why I've been saying some of the admittedly odd things I have. When you find it (as I'm sure you can) tell me what, in your opinion, should be done about it.

10-31-2008, 07:38 PM	#6
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Mac, do you remember the song I used to flirt with you the first time in a PM title? EDIT: Sorry, McCaber, I meant Groin's vote.

10-31-2008, 06:55 PM	#15
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Posting during an extremely short break, just to say.... What the heck? Nog and Rikae are....just....insane. Well, I suppose Rikae more than Noggie (from my extremely quick breezethrough, so I may have missed something) but still. Wow. Crap. A group's coming through. Gotta go. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.