Tol-in-Gaurhoth LII: Star Crossed II: Together for Eternity

[Brinniel]

Lommy (has too many posts to analyse them all, so I'll only go over the highlights)

#28
-Thinks Aganzir looks rather innocent.

#33
-Comments that Mac seems a bit jumpy.

#42
-Doesn't think Mac's that suspicious.

-Call's Aganzir's comment about her speculation on gifteds jumpy.

#56
-Responds to Aganzir questioning her jumpy statement. Calls her defensive.

#81
-Analysis post- doesn't really have strong suspicions of anyone.

#88
-Says she's been a wolf so much lately, she's having trouble suspecting suspicious people. Needs to rewire her brain.

#134
-Doesn't like Mac's suspicions against her.

-Finds points against Groin and Kitanna interesting.

-Toys with the possibility of Mac and Aganzir as lovers.

#148
-Thinks of Fea and Mac and Legate and Aganzir as possible lovers.

-Considers voting for Eomer.

-Thinks Greenie looks innocent.

#166
-Considers voting Mac, Eomer, or Rikae.

#178
-votes Eomer for being a submarine

Overall comments:

Out of all her posts toDay, only two were lengthy. Most were one or two lines. Perhaps I'm just imagining things, but I remember her giving longer posts with more substance. I usual find her posts impossible to analyse because they have so much info. Lommy does a lot of flip-flopping; she can't seem to make up her mind about Mac or Aganzir. I don't really like her vote for Eomer...nothing looks too strange about his vote, at least not for Day One. Too often innocents have been lynched because they came, voted, and left.

[Gwathagor]

Ok,

++Fea

because I disagree with her about Mac. I don't think he's worth voting toDay.

[satansaloser2005]

Blah. Sorry, back now and need to catch up a bit.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Page 3 done. Thoughts:

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Actually I think Fea could be a lover or something - the way she stubbornly sets out to defend the pros of rule discussion is odd, and especially taken to such lengths, it doesn't sound entirely honest.

I dunno, kinda sounds like regular Fea to me.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

these fellows really better show up. This large number of silent ones is especially worrying since we are lacking modkill.

Phooey on you, Mac. I will probably be around at this time every day, for future reference.

Legate's #96 seems to strengthen the relationship between him and Aganzir, to my mind anyway.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Aganzir ~ too argumentative to be a wolf, methinks

Because we've never seen a bold, argumentative wolf.

I think Eomer and Kitanna's vote immediately following him is kind of weird.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I think I'd prefer voting Mac over Rikae but since Rikae already has votes, I'm maybe a bit more inclined to add there one more.

This kind of screams baddie to me, to be honest. :/

A couple people evidenced worry about a "flood" of sudden Rikae votes. Last time I checked, two votes does not a flood make. Hee hee.

On to page 4...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Thoughts on Page 4.

Greenie's vote for Groin kind of came out of the blue, to me. Seemed like a throwaway vote.

Originally Posted by Legate

I am now starting to think more and more about voting Groin instead. But then, is one post really enough grounds?

Yes, because we've all seen how well that works. *coughSixthcough* Particularly alarming is that it came after Greenie's vote.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

A slight reason to vote for being a submarine, hopefully in a pair:
McCaber
Shasta
Gwath

I'm starting to get a little tired of this. I live in the USA. I'm fairly sure McCaber and Gwath also live in the USA. Just because we don't live in Europe like the majority of the players does not mean we are submarines. I mean really now.

And now, page 5 (where I made my first entrance. The irony!)

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I'm starting to get a little tired of this. I live in the USA. I'm fairly sure McCaber and Gwath also live in the USA. Just because we don't live in Europe like the majority of the players does not mean we are submarines. I mean really now.

Don't get mad Shasta. What I said was said at that moment. Surely you are not such a submarine now...

Although fex. Rikae and Fea (among others) live in the US as well...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Don't get mad Shasta. What I said was said at that moment. Surely you are not such a submarine now...

Although fex. Rikae and Fea (among others) live in the US as well...

*pipes up* And me. Thanks for that. (Kidding, kidding)


Really sorry. I kind of dozed off. Another quick skim and I'm ready though.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Thoughts on pages 5 and 6 (and a vote count, oh my!)

Lommy's vote for Eomer strikes me as in the same vein as Greenie's vote for Groin, but in a better light, for some reason.

Originally Posted by Legate

I could vote for one of the quiet ones just because of that.

Again, annoying.

Originally Posted by Gollum

May as well get this over with, though I've changed my mind.

++Lommy

I can't bring myself to trust her.

Could you explain this? It seems to me that you're voting someone you've "changed your mind on"; ergo, you think she's innocent, but in the next breath you "can't bring yourself to trust her?" Can you see where I might be confused?

Eomer: ++Rikae (Rikae 1)
Kitanna: ++Rikae (Rikae 2)
Greenie: ++Groin (Rikae 2, Groin 1)
Mac: ++Lommy (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 1)
Eönwë: ++Legate (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 1, Legate 1)
Lommy: ++Eomer (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 1, Legate 1, Eomer 1)
Lalaith: ++Legate (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 1, Legate 2, Eomer 1)
Aganzir: ++Lommy (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 2, Legate 2, Eomer 1)
Legate: ++Kitanna (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 2, Legate 2, Eomer 1, Kitanna 1)
Fea: ++Mac (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 2, Legate 2, Eomer 1, Kitanna 1, Mac 1)
Gollum: ++Lommy (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 3, Legate 2, Eomer 1, Kitanna 1, Mac 1)
Gwath: ++Fea (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 3, Legate 2, Eomer 1, Kitanna 1, Mac 1, Fea 1)
Rikae: ++Aganzir (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 3, Legate 2, Eomer 1, Kitanna 1, Mac 1, Fea 1, Aganzir 1)
Nogrod: ++Kitanna (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 3, Legate 2, Eomer 1, Kitanna 2, Mac 1, Fea 1, Aganzir 1)

I stole Brinniel's vote count and added all the votes after it in italics.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I haven't read a whole lot, just got home, but I saw this and thought I'd respond while I still have a chance. I just don't feel Mac is all that suspicious. I didn't see anything in his posts that pointed to him being a werelover, though depending on what has happened in the posts since I was on last could shift my opinion.

This doesn't strike me as a good defense at all...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Don't get mad Shasta. What I said was said at that moment. Surely you are not such a submarine now...

Although fex. Rikae and Fea (among others) live in the US as well...

I'm not mad, Nog. It just irked me that so many people said id. You were just unlucky number... three, I think.

Fea and Rikae live in the US??! Since when?! And why wasn't I informed?!

[Rikae]

I can't stay awake any longer - I guess I'll just have to find out if I'm still alive when I wake up.

About the point #2 - half serious. It is something that I thought about (not because of our strength as players, but because mods seems to love setting us against each other), but I didn't expect anyone else to take it seriously - except possibly Mac himself: I was interested in his reaction.

At any rate - the person I find most suspicious right now is Aganzir. I've suspected Lommy too, but I don't like to lynch her on Day One... plus, I double checked, and it seems Kit did crosspost with Eomer after all. Well, it may seem kind of useless now, but my intuition is pointing this way, and there are quite a few votes left, anyway, so:

++Aganzir

[Nogrod]

It's weird to be in a game of wererwolf at 7AM...

Well I need to vote then.

++ Kitanna

I was getting more and more uneasy about voting Kit as I started to think she had just stated her gut feeling on Mac's innocense, but then her sudden reappearance only to defend herself felt like overdoing it. Not the least because there was only a reservation and a comment on a feeling - still she defended Mac twice when he was suspected a lot...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Page 2 done. Thoughts:

Originally Posted by Aganzir

It came from my head and the point is that there might be anything and we wouldn't get to know it so why speculate at all.

Awfully pessimistic of you.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Methinks Aganzir, Macalaure, and Lommy are all baddies of some sort.

Is it weird that I thought the exact same thing the moment I laid eyes on the game thread? Kind of a gut feeling. For what it's worth, I had the same feeling about Nogrod and Fea, too...

There seems to be some sort of odd relationship between Aganzir and Legate, as well. They're very... civil? toward each other.

On to the next level! ...Er, I mean, page!

[Brinniel]

Legate (has even more posts)

#26
-Says Aganzir looks different

-Thinks Mac could be possible lover.

-Unsure about Fea.

-Sally seems normal.

-Kitanna's slipping under the radar.

-Eonwe doesn't say much.

-Lommy looks unusual in the beginning, but normal in the end.

#60
-Aganzir, Rikae, and Fea look innocent.

#92
-Thinks Rikae looks normal, considers Mac as a voting possibility.

-States that Lommy looks like she's trying to stay out of the spotlight while still contributing.

#96
-Agrees with Aganzir about Groin looking like he's trying to buddy up with him.

#105
-Admonishes Nogrod for his silence.

-Doesn't like everyone voting for Rikae.

#120
-Finds Kitanna suspicious for voting Rikae and finding Mac innocent.

#141
-Questions voting Mac and considers voting Groin or Kitanna.

#153
-Decides it'd be better to wait for Groin to post more.

#169
-Another analysis post..

#185
-Considers voting for Lalaith in retaliation.

-Decides not to vote Mac.

-Considers voting Sally for quietness.

-Considers voting Lommy, but hesistant.

-Flips a coin and votes Kitanna.

Overall comments:

Way too wordy, as usual.

Nothing jumps out to me in particular, though he does seem indecisive as ever (as does everyone else...it's Day 1 after all).

EDIT: X-ed with a bunch

[Brinniel]

Bah, really guys...you just keep spreading out the votes.

A half an hour before deadline and I can't analyse them all by then. So perhaps I'll just start looking at the ones who have two or more votes. I don't know why I'm analysing anyway...it's too time consuming (though helpful).

[Brinniel]

Kitanna

#14
-Found Mac and Aganzir's back-and-forth amusing.

#80
-Wants to take a better look at Lommy and Legate and those who suggested them.

-Wonders if Rikae's bluffing.

#90
-Feels better about Mac than Rikae.

#99
-Votes Rikae.

Overall comments:

Don't know why she seems so suspicious, she looks fine to me.

[Brinniel]

Hmm...I feel like my options are for Legate, Kit, Aganzir, or Lommy. I want to take a better look at Mac, but I'm running out of time.

Btw, my roommate's being awful to me again...so I have even less time in between talking to her. I better vote soon just in case...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Down to... Brinn, Sally, McCaber, and Groin, I think?

McCaber's probably not going to show up, and I'm not sure Groin is either.

[Diamond18]

Deadline is in 5 minutes.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Down to... Brinn, Sally, McCaber, and Groin, I think?

McCaber's probably not going to show up, and I'm not sure Groin is either.

Maybe Cabbie didn't know the game started today?


Nogrod: ++Kitanna (Rikae 2, Groin 1, Lommy 3, Legate 2, Eomer 1, Kitanna 2, Mac 1, Fea 1, Aganzir 1)


Vote count stands as such (will edit to add if Brinn votes while I'm posting this)
Three Votes: Lommie
Two Votes: Rikae, Legate, Kit, Agan
One Vote: Groin, Eomer, Mac, Fea
No Votes: the rest of us


I'm not causing a tie and leaving it up to someone else. Between Rikae and Lommie I vote:

++Lommie

Sorry, sweetie. *hands you a stuffed penguin, then runs before you try to fillet the village*


EDIT: X'd with both Brinn and our moddess. Lommie now stands at five votes.

[Brinniel]

Kitanna looks innocentish, Legate doesn't seem suspicious enough, and while I'd consider Aganzir, I haven't gotten a chance to analyse her...plus this sudden bandwagon is a bit fishy.

Therefore:

++Lommy

While I'm uncertain about her, she's the most suspicious of the four. Plus, she managed to fool me the last games and I can't let her get away with it this time..

Boy do I hate Day Ones. My vote never feels concrete enough...

[Brinniel]

Without our European friends, it seems so strange for the burden to fall on just us on the other side of the Atlantic...

[Brinniel]

Groin: Has only made one post so far toDay, accusing Rikae of wolfish behaviour. His accusation seemed reasonable...but really, I want to hear more from him. He's only made five posts thus far and hasn't voted.

Aganzir: Has posted over twice as much as everyone else alive. Slow down, girl. So far nothing about her has alarmed me. She doesn't feel manipulative as she usually does when guilty. And all the arguments and suspicions she has put out, particularly toDay, are well made. But then again, she's said so much that I hope I haven't missed something. I don't find her at all suspicious as of now, but I still don't want to disregard the possibility of her being a lover. Because we all know how good Aganzir is at playing evil.

Kitanna: Is also not around enough. She made a reasonable case against Rikae, but toDay we've barely heard from her. Like Groin, I really need to hear more before forming an opinion.

Gollum: Has typical newbie behaviour. Doesn't say very much and doesn't provide a well-rounded explanation for his suspicions. My guess is that this is more innocentish newbie behaviour...as a lover, I think his partner would advice him on how to contribute more and blend in so not to stand out. However, he remains yet another I want to hear more from.

To be continued...

[Eönwë]

Since I really am at a loss, i think I'll vote

++Nogrod

I don't really feel comfortable voting him, but I also feel like he i strying a bit too hard, if you get what I mean.

Forget meta, why not go for pure surrealism.
"Why does the cat change its socks at 5pm" Or if you're Legate-ish "Three cranes" or maybe even "6.565323048912 cranes".

I'll have to go back and answer everything I wanted to toMorrow.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Since I really am at a loss, i think I'll vote

++Nogrod

I don't really feel comfortable voting him, but I also feel like he i strying a bit too hard, if you get what I mean.

Forget meta, why not go for pure surrealism.
"Why does the cat change its socks at 5pm" Or if you're Legate-ish "Three cranes" or maybe even "6.565323048912 cranes".

I'll have to go back and answer everything I wanted to toMorrow.

If you don't feel comfortable voting him... why do it? I don't get why people say that.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

If you don't feel comfortable voting him... why do it? I don't get why people say that.

I quite agree, Shastanis. If you're going to vote against your own better judgment, at the very least invent some kind of plausible justification, if only for the benefit of your fellow players.