Elven Rings and the One Ring

[CSteefel]

As Tolkien says in The Silmarillion: Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age:

Therefore the Three remained unsullied, for they were forged by Celebrimbor alone, and the hand of Sauron had never touched them; yet they also were subject to the One.

Sauron made the One Ring to rule all of the others, not just those that he personally had a role in making, as is made clear in the above. In fact, the holders of the Three Rings knew instantly that they were in danger of being controlled as soon as Sauron put the One Ring on, so the connection there was quite clear....

[Andsigil]

Originally Posted by CSteefel

As Tolkien says in The Silmarillion: Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age:

Sauron made the One Ring to rule all of the others, not just those that he personally had a role in making, as is made clear in the above. In fact, the holders of the Three Rings knew instantly that they were in danger of being controlled as soon as Sauron put the One Ring on, so the connection there was quite clear....

I guess I'm unsure as to how he could encroach on those rings he had no hand in making. The 7 Dwarves' and the 9 Mens' rings, he actually touched. But he never laid hands on, or had any role at all in making the 3 Elves'.

It seems to violate the "norms" of fantasy magic, I guess. And it's never clearly explained.

Perhaps because it was "similar" magic used to make the Elves' rings that Sauron's control was "in tune" with them, even if not exactly in tune?

[Gollum the Great]

Originally Posted by Andsigil

IIt seems to violate the "norms" of fantasy magic, I guess. And it's never clearly explained.

Tolkien wrote before most fantasy. And unless I'm mistaken, Tolkien was, so to speak, the kick-off for a great deal of what fantasy is out there.

[Inziladun]

I guess I'm unsure as to how he could encroach on those rings he had no hand in making. The 7 Dwarves' and the 9 Mens' rings, he actually touched. But he never laid hands on, or had any role at all in making the 3 Elves'.

But he did have a hand in their making. The Three, though never touched by Sauron and physically made by the Noldor of Eregion, could not have been crafted without Sauron's aid. Being at least partially the results of Sauron's knowledge and instruction was the reason they were ultimately under the dominion of the One.