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skytree · 10-06-2008, 06:28 PM

What if Trrebeard faced off against the Balrog of Moria? Would his awesome physical prowess be enough to overcome the corrupted Maia?

Andsigil · 10-06-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skytree

What if Trrebeard faced off against the Balrog of Moria? Would his awesome physical prowess be enough to overcome the corrupted Maia?

No. Ents are vulnerable to fire.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 10-06-2008, 10:53 PM

Treebeard has ancient wisdom, though. Do you seriously believe he wouldn't set up some sort of elaborate trap, possibly involving a bucket of water balanced atop a door?

I would never bet against Treebeard (unless he was fighting Wargs).

skip spence · 10-07-2008, 12:47 AM

Ok what if Smaug, blindfolded and tanked up with 100 pints of Jack Daniels, were to face up against Ted Sandiman armed with a Israeli Uzi-gun and a fire-extinguisher? Who'd win?

FeRaL sHaDoW · 10-07-2008, 12:48 AM

Sadly Treebeard is an extremely flammable element. One little spark and he would be no more than a really big sparkler.

Smaug VS Ted Sandiman
Well a very large, very drunk dragon would be a sight to behold. The Uzi would have little effect due to the small size of its caliber but the fire-extinguisher is a force to be reckoned with.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-07-2008, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Treebeard has ancient wisdom, though. Do you seriously believe he wouldn't set up some sort of elaborate trap, possibly involving a bucket of water balanced atop a door?

Treebeard has ancient wisdom, though. Do you seriously believe he would ever do such a foolish thing like face the Balrog of Moria?

Morthoron · 10-07-2008, 05:04 AM

Treebeard was not a spelunker of note, and given the Balrog's choice of retirement community, it would seem he was not an avid arborist; therefore, their avocations and lifestyles would preclude them from this type of engagement.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 10-07-2008, 10:39 AM

I simply mean if he found himself in an inescapable situation. Then he would be forced to use some of his tricks. As Morthoron points out, such a scenario is unlikely.

Though they would make big bucks on pay-per-view. They could be tempted...

skytree · 10-07-2008, 11:29 AM

Treebeard clearly has magic of his own as displayed to the Merry and Pippin in Wellinghall. As strong as the Balrog was, he and Gandalf were fairly equal in that department and Treebeard is far stronger, maybe the strongest thing in Middle Earth from a purely physical standpoint. While the Balrog may cause fire damage against Treebeard it is quite possible it will get pummeled by a 10 ton boulder or be closed on and pummeled hand to hand before any catastrophic damage is done.

Andsigil · 10-07-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by skip spence

Ok what if Smaug, blindfolded and tanked up with 100 pints of Jack Daniels, were to face up against Ted Sandiman armed with a Israeli Uzi-gun and a fire-extinguisher? Who'd win?

And if Godzilla fought the Cloverfield Monster, who would win? What if Godzilla was a ninja and the Cloverfield Monster was a pirate?

Groin Redbeard · 10-07-2008, 08:13 PM

Treebeard wouldn't have a snowflakes chance in hades against a Balrog. If I'm not mistaken, that's how the Entwives died: burned to death.

FeRaL sHaDoW · 10-07-2008, 08:41 PM

Strange I always thought the Entwives were burnt then drowned to death.

skytree · 10-07-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Treebeard wouldn't have a snowflakes chance in hades against a Balrog. If I'm not mistaken, that's how the Entwives died: burned to death.

Treebeard is many times stronger than an Echtelion or Glorfindel and they managed to do defeat one. I venture to say, he may be stronger than any thing or creature in Middle Earth. While he probably doesn't possess the magical capability of high elven prince or Maia, he does possess magical capabilities that are never full discussed.

Eönwë · 10-09-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by skytree

Treebeard clearly has magic of his own as displayed to the Merry and Pippin in Wellinghall. As strong as the Balrog was, he and Gandalf were fairly equal in that department and Treebeard is far stronger, maybe the strongest thing in Middle Earth from a purely physical standpoint. While the Balrog may cause fire damage against Treebeard it is quite possible it will get pummeled by a 10 ton boulder or be closed on and pummeled hand to hand before any catastrophic damage is done.

Well, it depends which type of balrog we're going for. If it's those easily killed ones that come in hundreds, then obviously. If those ones of which there were never more than 7 (or whatever), then maybe not.

10-06-2008, 06:28 PM	#1
skytree Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 51	What if Treebeard..... What if Trrebeard faced off against the Balrog of Moria? Would his awesome physical prowess be enough to overcome the corrupted Maia?

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Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Treebeard has ancient wisdom, though. Do you seriously believe he wouldn't set up some sort of elaborate trap, possibly involving a bucket of water balanced atop a door? I would never bet against Treebeard (unless he was fighting Wargs). __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

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skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Ok what if Smaug, blindfolded and tanked up with 100 pints of Jack Daniels, were to face up against Ted Sandiman armed with a Israeli Uzi-gun and a fire-extinguisher? Who'd win? __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

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FeRaL sHaDoW Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 232	Sadly Treebeard is an extremely flammable element. One little spark and he would be no more than a really big sparkler. Smaug VS Ted Sandiman Well a very large, very drunk dragon would be a sight to behold. The Uzi would have little effect due to the small size of its caliber but the fire-extinguisher is a force to be reckoned with. __________________ God created night, but man created darkness.... Last edited by FeRaL sHaDoW; 10-07-2008 at 12:54 AM.

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Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,515	Treebeard was not a spelunker of note, and given the Balrog's choice of retirement community, it would seem he was not an avid arborist; therefore, their avocations and lifestyles would preclude them from this type of engagement. __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

10-07-2008, 10:39 AM	#8
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I simply mean if he found himself in an inescapable situation. Then he would be forced to use some of his tricks. As Morthoron points out, such a scenario is unlikely. Though they would make big bucks on pay-per-view. They could be tempted... __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

10-07-2008, 11:29 AM	#9
skytree Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 51	Treebeard clearly has magic of his own as displayed to the Merry and Pippin in Wellinghall. As strong as the Balrog was, he and Gandalf were fairly equal in that department and Treebeard is far stronger, maybe the strongest thing in Middle Earth from a purely physical standpoint. While the Balrog may cause fire damage against Treebeard it is quite possible it will get pummeled by a 10 ton boulder or be closed on and pummeled hand to hand before any catastrophic damage is done.

10-07-2008, 08:13 PM	#11
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	Treebeard wouldn't have a snowflakes chance in hades against a Balrog. If I'm not mistaken, that's how the Entwives died: burned to death. __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

10-07-2008, 08:41 PM	#12
FeRaL sHaDoW Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 232	Strange I always thought the Entwives were burnt then drowned to death. __________________ God created night, but man created darkness....