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Old 08-26-2008, 09:08 AM   #1
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Almost depressing???
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:12 AM   #2
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Almost depressing???
Well, depressing really, but I'm in a good mood otherwise, so I can't be depressed, so that's why the "almost" was in there... Besides, I guess I have to admit this is almost amusing because this is going so disastrously... I mean, often it feels like the village was just full of cobblers.

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Old 08-26-2008, 09:12 AM   #3
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Just a reminder: no frivolous voting now. We really have to get a baddie toDay
Okay... So who should we vote for?
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:16 AM   #4
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Phantom even says he suspected Form "for two days". As we all know, Phantom loves to assume that the gifted do what he suggests. So when Form didn't die the first night via Cobbler-Assassin, he was a perfect scapegoat for Phantom-wolf to try and save Fea, even if it did look forced.

...That made so much more sense in the shower...

Maybe I'm just illiterate of a morning. Ugh. I've rethought and decided Phantom might be a wolf, and not just a cobbler.

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Must dash. Probably won't be around again today. If I am, it'll be for about five minutes snagged on a library computer.
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:50 AM   #5
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A throw into the discussion...

Brinn seems to be very considerate and she plays smoothly but there is something I'm pretty worried about in her fluency. If she and tp were the wolves it would explain a lot - like her encounters / speculation about him in #192 and #193. (Yes I had almost forgotten how bad tp looks on Day2... must be his good explanations on Day3 which I have not yet reached.)

Btw. I need to take a break as I haven't yet eaten anything today but I will be continuing my slow process of working through this whole thread (I'm on post #201 right now).
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:59 AM   #6
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Nog- as far as your points about non-voters, I'd say that I agree that WWs always like to vote. However they could purposefully not vote in order to be dismissed. And seeing as the leading vote-getters Day 1 and Day 3 have been proven to be non-WWs, there was really no need for them to vote. Just something to keep in mind.

Shasta- I'm thinking Cobbler rather than WW. He'd be much more careful if he was a WW. He made arguments that made little sense early in the day, and when I smacked them down forcefully he didn't even respond. And now he shows up and makes another gem of a post which is once again faulty at best, if not actually full of evil intent.
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Phantom even says he suspected Form "for two days".
Yep, I did.
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As we all know, Phantom loves to assume that the gifted do what he suggests.
Obviously, there is no possible way anyone can know what in the world a gifted is going to do. I make suggestions, and make logical generalizations, but I rarely assume that they will do exactly as I wish. Rather I fear that they haven't done what I'd wish.
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he was a perfect scapegoat for Phantom-wolf to try and save Fea
Erm... He was the only person I could vote for to save Fea. If you'll recall, no one else had any votes. Kath was who I actually wanted to lynch yesterday, but she didn't attract votes.
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...That made so much more sense in the shower...
I guess you had to be there.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:06 AM   #7
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Exactly. Our numbers are still good what comes to the victory-conditions but if we lynch an innocent and lose one during the Night with no assassination then toMorrow there will be four votes wishing us make the wrong decisions and only four to counter that.
Indeed. The current count of 8-2 doesn't seem that bad, but if no WWs or Cobblers are killed during this Day/Night cycle then suddenly our plight seems rather desperate.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:28 AM   #8
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Hmmm... why would a wolf-phantom want to save an ordo-Fea any more than an ordo-phantom would like to save her? Shasta's logic really makes me raise my eyebrows, but I think he still seems rather innocent.
Well, it could be about making himself look better. He knows she's not a wolf at least, and maybe doesn't suspect her to be a cobbler, so... But I don't think that works in this situation.

I'd like to think we can use the knowledge that Form was indeed a cobbler to our advantage. I'd also like to think that knowing that the wolves did not think Mith was a cobbler is helpful in some way, but probably not (you could argue from that that the wolves actually did think that only a innocent would put forward the Kitanna lynching idea). Can how a person treated Form tell us anything?

I think I want to look at Nerwen more closely, because her last couple posts where all she does is warn us against frivolous votes and says that things are depressing really bother me. I don't get it. And I can see her having fun with something like that.

Looking over her posts, she mostly seems to respond to people, acting sometimes as a mediator, explaining to people what others have said about them if they are confused/'upset' by it. (I've seen her do that outside WW, but I don't think that means anything.) At least she's done it a couple times. And what else...she dropped a little bomb about how she actually was thinking Lalaith might be the seer on Day 1. Interesting. There's really not much. Her votes have been for Kitanna (she seemed neutral-ish about the Kitanna lynch, didn't really think it was a great idea but didn't really fight it, didn't want to vote Gwath) and Lommy. Her reason for voting Lommy:

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Yes, she's a bit strange, somehow...
So I wonder why she's reminding everyone against frivolous votes. Yes, that was back on Day 2, but...

Then she says this about Mith:

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but then so are you, Mith.
*shrugs*

Anyway, surely Mac-mod wouldn't let Nogrod and Nerwen be wolves together again without me!

Hmm, I guess I have time to look at someone else...woohoo...

Edit: Aw darn, was mixing up games. My stupid joke is even more stupid.^^

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Old 08-26-2008, 10:48 AM   #9
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Kath really hasn't said much...really. Usually she has a very small post count, but also usually there is more to her posts. Yes, she's said she's playing a new style and she has seemed to be quite busy. Anyway, I do agree with what she said on Day 2 about not underestimating cobblers. I think to many people have done that, including myself.

She was the first to vote for Lommy on Day 2. She was followed by Mith and then Nerwen. I don't know what Lommy is and of course that was when we lynched our seer. Nerwen's vote just feels like it's positioned strangely most likely because it followed a cobbler's and ooh, bandwagon! As if it isn't a bandwagon even that gets a wolf lynched.

So back to Nogrod for a moment, mwahaha! He suspects me because I suspect him, but he doesn't suspect Lommy because she suspects both of us, and he says he always suspects Kath and she always suspects him except that neither of them have done much suspecting of each other at all, except mentioning that they always suspect each other.

I think the only reason Nogrod was wishy-washy on his suspicion of me was because he was wondering if I was a cobbler...

I want to look at Brinniel and Greenie, but I just don't have time...yes, I picked Nerwen and Kath because they have been quiet-ish so there's less to go through...I had a very early class and soon I must leave to go to class for the next 3 hours so...

Anyway, I'm not going to worry about being completely wrong as I usually am and go with someone who the majority seems to think they might vote for like I did with Fea (of course at this point I have no idea who the majority might vote for...really it may be me), and just vote.

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Phantom even says he suspected Form "for two days". As we all know, Phantom loves to assume that the gifted do what he suggests. So when Form didn't die the first night via Cobbler-Assassin, he was a perfect scapegoat for Phantom-wolf to try and save Fea, even if it did look forced.
Hmmm... why would a wolf-phantom want to save an ordo-Fea any more than an ordo-phantom would like to save her? Shasta's logic really makes me raise my eyebrows, but I think he still seems rather innocent.

edit: xed with Nog and tp
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